Hmmm.... Identity politics and guns... There's that fine line again.

Samuel Whittemore

Samuel Whittemore

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    I realize having the screen name I do is a case in point... mmmm, but I do believe my reasons for it and his are different. YIKES Bud. 'How about we talk about your race baiting and epic reverse discrimination and save the gun convo for another day.'

    https://blackgunsmatter.myshopify.com/collections/all


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    I was ok with it kind of too -- until, maybe I'm wrong --please correct me, the insinuation could be that gun owners are racists? I DO think that there is a degree of gun control that is racist though.
     
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    well historically speaking these guys are correct, its a finger in the eye of teh KKK of Chicago and the like, its a major fuck you to all who seek to disarm the citizens who need protection the most. Hang around some Black Repubs and this is how they think, the same as us. Allan West, a group called BCF. Black Conservative Fund, Tim Scott, Clarence Thomas Types. True Americans. Blak Repubs are actually more conservative than your average repub. tehy actually believe in Freedom for all.
     
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    ArmyJerry said:
    well historically speaking these guys are correct, its a finger in the eye of teh KKK of Chicago and the like, its a major fuck you to all who seek to disarm the citizens who need protection the most. Hang around some Black Repubs and this is how they think, the same as us. Allan West, a group called BCF. Black Conservative Fund, Tim Scott, Clarence Thomas Types. True Americans. Blak Repubs are actually more conservative than your average repub. tehy actually believe in Freedom for all.
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    TY! I stand corrected. Good clarification for me to remember..
     
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    ArmyJerry said:
    Nothing wrong with this, I kind of like it, armed black Americans scares the people who need to be scared, mainly racists Democrats in these circles. (Repubs nowadays too) Origin of all gun control starts an ends with KKK/Dems disarming black republicans in teh south and then in teh North.
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    Agreed. Arm everybody. This is our right, after all.

    If racists are afraid to talk shit to different races? What's wrong with that?
     
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    gayguns said:
    I was ok with it kind of too -- until, maybe I'm wrong --please correct me, the insinuation could be that gun owners are racists? I DO think that there is a degree of gun control that is racist though.
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    Not really sure where you possibly get “gun owners are racist.” The hoodie that says all gun control is racist is the polar opposite of that.
     
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    I don't know why it just felt weird at first. Maybe I was taking it personally. I'm totally on board with it now. Always good to bounce things off smarter ones than me :)
     
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    gayguns said:
    I was ok with it kind of too -- until, maybe I'm wrong --please correct me, the insinuation could be that gun owners are racists? I DO think that there is a degree of gun control that is racist though.
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    Gun control is rooted in racism.

    Gun control laws passed in post-Civil War South to keep freed African Americans from owning guns, thus rendering them helpless against mobs and predatory violence.

    The Sullivan Law passed in New York City in 1911 ensured that only the wealthy and politically connected can have access to weapons. For the poor, newly arrived immigrants busting their backs doing 14 hour shifts in the factories, they are out of luck.

    Gun owners and guns themselves are what racists fear. Guns are the ultimate equalizer.
     
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    George P. Burdell said:
    I don't see an issue here. Tell us more about the gayguns thing
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    Partly my way (and when there was an actual group 'Gays With Guns') of asserting that Guns owners are NOT all white, old, hetero, Christians. In addition and as the website stated:

    Gays With Guns is not about classifying LGBTx people as different or setting ourselves as special or apart from anyone else. It's about reaching out to a minority demographic who might not normally be viewed as pro 2nd Amendment. We believe the 2nd is vitally important to our nation, our civil liberties, our self-defense and our peace of mind.

    Gays With Guns (GWG) is a social / political group (insofar as the 2nd Amendment) who's primary purpose is assisting not only LGBT people but everyone in the community to learn responsible and safe use of firearms for self defense and recreation. A top GWG's goal is to encourage and support all people in the community who uphold Constitutional freedoms while promoting equality for all Americans.

    Anyways.. that's enough from me.
    Thanks for all the replies.
     
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    gayguns said:
    Partly my way (and when there was an actual group 'Gays With Guns') of asserting that Guns owners are NOT all white, old, hetero, Christians. In addition and as the website stated:

    Gays With Guns is not about classifying LGBTx people as different or setting ourselves as special or apart from anyone else. It's about reaching out to a minority demographic who might not normally be viewed as pro 2nd Amendment. We believe the 2nd is vitally important to our nation, our civil liberties, our self-defense and our peace of mind.

    Gays With Guns (GWG) is a social / political group (insofar as the 2nd Amendment) who's primary purpose is assisting not only LGBT people but everyone in the community to learn responsible and safe use of firearms for self defense and recreation. A top GWG's goal is to encourage and support all people in the community who uphold Constitutional freedoms while promoting equality for all Americans.

    Anyways.. that's enough from me.
    Thanks for all the replies.
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    Cool. I can't stand how much ones political views can make them feel like they have to be on a certain side of an issue.
     
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    QuickNDirty said:
    Holy fuck this Maj Toure guy is the fucking shit! GGWG ought to get on board with this, I'm thinking.




    https://www.gofundme.com/blackgunsmatter

    He's tied up with NSSF. How the fuck did that fly under the radar?

    https://www.nssf.org/black-guns-matter-signs-as-bronze-sponsor-of-2018-retailer-seminar/
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    Those videos are superb. This man really put a lot of effort into making the public aware of issues that they would NEVER hear out of the loudspeakers of the statist propaganda machines. As a matter of fact, you would have never heard about him if you only relied on the media as your source of news and info.

    I really appreciate all the educational value that has been brought out in this thread and these videos. It is awesome to see, especially after the clusterfuck that happened on this board in the previous couple of hours.
     
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