How did they ever survive???

[prescottmarksman]

Recently at a basic rifle marksmanship training course in Arizona, I heard an instructor say that no manufacturer made an effective adjustable cheekpiece. Also that it was difficult/impossible to shoot without something that fit the shooter properly. While I understand a part of this I'm left with the question, How did any sniper in WWII, Vietnam, Korea, etc. ever kill the bad guys?
I jest but seriously my mcmillan a3-5 fits me very nicely. Does anyone else have problems finding stocks to fit or is it just him?

 

[TallShot]

Re: How did they ever survive???

I'm not sure I follow your post.....?

 

[prescottmarksman]

Re: How did they ever survive???

I guess the question is if its not possible to shoot effectively without proper cheekpiece alignment how did any of the early snipers ever kill anyone?

 

[TallShot]

Re: How did they ever survive???

Adapted to what they had, and shot their rifles.

 

[KPK]

Re: How did they ever survive???

I'm no bad ass marksman by any means, but I think a real marksman/shooter should probably be able to pull off some shots no matter what he's got. The M40 stocks didn't have a high cheek weld and those boys were gtg...

Not that it's impossible w/o a perfect stock, but it may not be as "easy"...

 

[taseal]

Re: How did they ever survive???

You know you can make a nice cheekpiece with some cloth and tape right?

It's not like you can't shoot without it. Lol

 

[prescottmarksman]

Re: How did they ever survive???

I personally have tried the tape and a sock trick but I guess thats improper. Needless to say I probably wont be attending any future courses from that instructor.

 

[taseal]

Re: How did they ever survive???

LOL.

you gotta make whatever you have work. strips of kneepads the army ACUS have actually worked well for me when I needed to make something. it was solid, but not harsh.

 

[Stick Around]

Re: How did they ever survive???

I'd take duct tape,over an adjustable comb.

 

[GasLight]

Re: How did they ever survive???

I can't see where anyone could say that the KMW Loggerhead isn't about perfect adjustability... Maybe he has never seen that?

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: How did they ever survive???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fMoL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard an instructor say that no manufacturer made an effective adjustable cheekpiece.</div></div>

He was/is wrong. Many rifles can be had with perfectly functional adjustable cheek pieces.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fMoL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> How did any sniper in WWII, Vietnam, Korea, etc. ever kill the bad guys?</div></div>

Adapt and Overcome. Tape, foam, wood, screws, etc.

 

[Pat M]

Re: How did they ever survive???

Try a Mosin Nagant & scope

 

[Evolution 9]

Re: How did they ever survive???

That's one of those moments where you have to decide to shut your mouth and hope the other students don't buy his BS, or open it and be, "that guy".

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: How did they ever survive???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Evolution 9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's one of those moments where you have to decide to shut your mouth and hope the other students don't buy his BS, or open it and be, "that guy". </div></div>

I AM "That Guy".

 

[--BLACKOUT--]

Re: How did they ever survive???

It's the "old school" vs "new school" thought process. Back in the day, the shooters did more with less. Now a days, you need a $5,000 rifle with $3,000 glass to be competent. Best thing to do is make your own path unless someone else's path has a lot of truth to the madness.

 

[Shooter45]

Re: How did they ever survive???

Completely agree. Shooters from 50+ yrs ago did so with much less of the technology and equipment. It's all about adapting and performing with what you have. You make it work.

 

[Kalman]

Re: How did they ever survive???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Evolution 9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's one of those moments where you have to decide to shut your mouth and hope the other students don't buy his BS, or open it and be, "that guy". </div></div>

I AM "That Guy".

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Let your bullets do the talking.

But I don't see any reason why you can't shoot 1 MOA or better with a random person's - non fitted gun assuming the gun and ammo are capable.

Are you going to be better with your own equipment? Of course, but 1 MOA is more than enough for most of the shots.

Anyone see that 80 something year old sniper on Impossible Shots? Hasn't touched a rifle in years and shoots roughly 1/2 MOA at 1000 yards? Some people are just bad asses.

 

[Oodin]

Re: How did they ever survive???

This video?