How do YOU debur case necks?

[turbo54]

I have an RCBS 2-sided inside/outside neck deburring tool and a Lyman tool that has an anodized orange handle, the VLD inside deburring tool, ouside deburring tool, and primer pocket cleaners/uniformers. The outide deburring tool is pretty much identical for both the RCBS and Lyman.

When I trim brass, I end up with a gnarly bur on the outside of my case neck. I find the debur tool does a lousy job of getting rid of it. It seems to remove some of it, while creating a new bur of its own. I have done it by hand lightly, I've tried with force and it makes no difference. Currently, I chuck the tool in a drill, and spin it about 100rpm. Then I hold the case co-axial to the chuck and give a decent press into the cutter. Then I cock the case about 20° from being co-axial and lightly press the case into the cutter while slowly rotating the case with my fingers. This leaves a small radius on the OD of the neck. It seems to work pretty well, but it REALLY starts to cramp up my fingers after about 10-15 cases.

I would like to know how others are deburring their case neck OD....Hopefully I can learn a new, faster, less tedious and cramping technique.

 

[shootist2004]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

get the RCBS trim station...

 

[turbo54]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist2004</div><div class="ubbcode-body">get the RCBS trim station... </div></div>

$100ish seems like a steep pricetag for a different shape cutter.

 

[BCP]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist2004</div><div class="ubbcode-body">get the RCBS trim station... </div></div>

$100ish seems like a steep pricetag for a different shape cutter. </div></div>

It comes with a couple other useful doohickeys, not to mention a motor...

 

[turbo54]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

Well, I already have doohickeys and a motor (my drill).

Is the answer here that my deburring cutters are poorly designed? I haven't seen different ones, except the one on that rcbs station.

 

[BCP]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, I already have doohickeys and a motor (my drill).

Is the answer here that my deburring cutters are poorly designed? I haven't seen different ones, except the one on that rcbs station. </div></div>

Could be, I'm not sure. The trim station is just easier since it's a slower moving fairly torquey motor with a primer pocket cleaning/uniforming tools as well as chamfer deburr for the necks. It seems to do a better job than when I did it by hand iwth a drill too.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would like to know how others are deburring their case neck OD....Hopefully I can learn a new, faster, less tedious and cramping technique. </div></div>

Like the other guy said, trim station. It's worth it. I think I bought mine off ebay for 50$ used a few years back and it's still working just fine.

 

[jagged77]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

When I trim brass, I end up with a gnarly bur on the outside of my case neck. I find the debur tool does a lousy job of getting rid of it. It seems to remove some of it, while creating a new bur of its own. I have done it by hand lightly, I've tried with force and it makes no difference. </div></div>

I have found this problem when I've used excessive pressure (using the same RCBS tool). Also I tried the Hornady motorised system on some .338 cases and it did the same thing (steeper angle of cut with the larger calibre and too much pressure). I found that I get best results (from .223 to .338) doing it lightly by hand. Maybe its a technique thing!

 

[Grumulkin]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

When I'm processing hundreds of case, I use an RCBS powered Trim Pro with a 3-way cutter and when processing one or two hundred I use a manual chamfrer and deburring tool. I've not had the problem you describe with either method.

 

[Tripwire]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

Spray a little shot of sizing lube on the cutter/pilot....magic.

I'd better edit to add, for the meek and timid:

Lubing the case trimmer cutter will reduce the amount of burr formed by the trimmer cutter thus negating much of the pain of de-burring.

 

[19Scout77]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I always thought this particularly task was one of the truly idiot-proof tasks in reloading. I stand corrected.

 

[Iamironman]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I trim with a Giraud, so it leaves no burr on the inside or out, but when I do small batches the backside of my RCBS debur tool works fine for removing the burr from the outside.

 

[bm11]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I use a RCBS 3-way cutting head when trimming. It does a fantastic job, and saves a ton of time!

 

[fx77]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

By hand there is the RCBS case mough deburring and champfer tool

cheap and quick.

 

[fw707]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jagged77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I found that I get best results (from .223 to .338) doing it lightly by hand. Maybe its a technique thing! </div></div>

I use the RCBS hand tool for several different calibers and I've never noticed a burr even once. Maybe you're putting too much pressure on the case mouth and the cutter is digging up too much brass??

 

[BobinNC]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I use Sinclair Case Mouth Deburring Tool Holder in my drill, with an RCBS deburring tool attached.

 

[turbo54]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 19Scout77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I always thought this particularly task was one of the truly idiot-proof tasks in reloading. I stand corrected. </div></div>

Next time you want to be snide, try using proper spelling. Makes you seem more superior and less ignorant.

 

[lightman]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

It sounds like your cutter is either dull or you are crowding it too hard/fast.A sharp cutter should leave a square edge,and all you should have to do is knock the sharpness off of it.Steel cutters will dull faster than you think they will. Pete

 

[turbo54]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pete Theodore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sounds like your cutter is either dull or you are crowding it too hard/fast.A sharp cutter should leave a square edge,and all you should have to do is knock the sharpness off of it.Steel cutters will dull faster than you think they will. Pete </div></div>

I think you're right. Seems like no one else has the same issue. I've had 2 brand new ones, and neither seemed to irk great. I must be too fast/hard on them, then they dull.

By the way, I do use cutting fluid when trimming brass.

 

[19Scout77]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 19Scout77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I always thought this particularly task was one of the truly idiot-proof tasks in reloading. I stand corrected. </div></div>

Next time you want to be snide, try using proper spelling. Makes you seem more superior and less ignorant. </div></div>

Actually the spelling was just fine...it was the improper use of an adverb that exposed my not so subtle ignorance. Now instead of grammar lessons, you might want to devote a little more time to monkey work...aka case prep.

 

[19Scout77]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

Maybe some of the sand from your Vagina fell out and dulled the cutting edge of your deburring tool...

Toughen up lil' fella, you are posting a question regarding your inability to accomplish one of the simplest tasks in reloading.

 

[mdmp5]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

Try wobbling the deburring tool around the case mouth. It will clean up the edge left by deburring.

 

[CardiacKid]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I'm in the RCBS powered case prep center crew... thought it was a big investment for what it does, but finally not having cramped hands/fingers is worth it. I still use the 3-way cutter on my trim pro when I do .308, but for primer pocket uniforming, cleaning and chamfer/deburring the power case prep center is great.

 

[MitchAlsup]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I trim brass, I end up with a gnarly bur on the outside of my case neck. I find the debur tool does a lousy job of getting rid of it. It seems to remove some of it, while creating a new bur of its own. </div></div>

I use a large flat fine tooth file (the one whoes name starts with a 'bas' and ends with a 'tard' but is otherwise not available as a word to be used on the internet forums.)

Roll the case into the teeth of the flie giving the file a light smooth stroke. Three such strokes should go around the case twice. No burrs, no hardening of the brass at the mouth, never wears out, no chance of hurting the roundness fo the mouth as with the cutters.

I do use the (std) cutters for the chamfer.

 

[former naval person]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I have found a double merit procedure. I use a brass brush of the same caliber and put it in my drill press...load it up with 0000 steel wool and clean the insides of the necks...basically polishing them. By building up a wad of 0000 ahead of the mouth of the case when polishing the insides, it also cleans up the exterior of the mouth. No need to outside chamfer. Plus, the bullets seat sooooo smmoooth! JMHO

 

[427Cobra]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I use a Giraud Case Trimmer, yes it was expensive, but my time is better spent shooting than reloading, there is a very good reason you hardly see them for sale used.

 

[Orion2000]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I use the Lee case length trimmer. Mount the locking base in a cordless drill. Use the Lee trimmer to cut to OAL. I use an RCBS inside/outside chamfer tool to do the outside, then the inside. Pop in next case. My chamfer tool was old when I picked it up 20 years ago, but still works fine.

 

[vman]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

Standard ol deburring tool has worked fine for me.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I usually debur my cases by licking them with my wickedly sharp tongue. My wife says that is what makes me a bastard.

I use an old RCBS double ended hand deburring tool that I have wrapped splicing tape(not that sticky shit) around the midsection so my arthritis doesn't kill me. I keep saying I am going electric but never do make the jump. I have to deburr very rarely as I use proper die setup, I know the max case length for my chamber, and I don't hammer the hell out of my brass looking for maximum velocity.

 

[patriotoutlaw]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Standard ol deburring tool has worked fine for me. </div></div>


+1 on one of the simplest tasks in reloading ammo.

 

[Red Ryder]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

After I deburr it, I take the case and rub the mouth on a piece of scotchbrite. Removes any residual roughness and makes the case mouth nice and smooth.

I want my cases to know they're getting...special treatment.

 

[A1para]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

I've had the same problem in the past. Your trimmer is probably dull causing the excessive burr.

I no longer use the outside deburring tool and use only OOOO steel wool. A couple of twists and the case mouth is perfect. I also use a brass bore brush inside the case necks but I use it to remove carbon.

Sim

 

[EWP]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

This works good(The LE Wilson old RCBS tools cuts 99% better and Hornady's hand tool is great also, the RCBS one in the pic is dull and I have three of them and they all suck)

This works better

this is even better

but this works the best

 

[MTETM]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

With my 30 year old RCBS deburring tool...Still works just fine!
It does make the hands it bit more sore when doing several hundred at a time then it did years ago....

I got smart and shoot cases with 30 or 40 degree shoulders so I don't have to trim very often!!

 

[chawk]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

Giraud Case Trimmer...

 

[CardiacKid]

Re: How do YOU debur case necks?

EWP: You have captured a portion of my reloading odyssey perfectly. I still use the 3-way for small batches of 308 loads, but everything else is spot on, lol.