Rifle Scopes How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
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Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
If you cant dial it down, it would be nearly unusable, at least for my purposes.
What is the gun for?
If you cant dial it down, it would be nearly unusable, at least for my purposes.
What is the gun for?
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
It is a variable power scope, right?
On the range, it is "needed" but would be fine.
It is a variable power scope, right?
On the range, it is "needed" but would be fine.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
"There is no such thing as overkill"
Until mirage makes it impossible to see your target
"There is no such thing as overkill"
Until mirage makes it impossible to see your target
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
I use my 42 power at 100m. Really shows me how much I move when shooting. However if it wasnt variable then it would be pretty tough to use.
I use my 42 power at 100m. Really shows me how much I move when shooting. However if it wasnt variable then it would be pretty tough to use.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
What scope are you looking at getting? I think you will find that anything over 20X is overkill at short ranges.
It obviously depends on the application, but if you are maxing out at 300 yards, a 3-9 is plenty, and a fixed 6x for that matter, but I would think anything over 4.5-14 is more than enough.
What scope are you looking at getting? I think you will find that anything over 20X is overkill at short ranges.
It obviously depends on the application, but if you are maxing out at 300 yards, a 3-9 is plenty, and a fixed 6x for that matter, but I would think anything over 4.5-14 is more than enough.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
I think it would be fine, if you're willing to accept the consequences of having the high magnification along with the benefits.
You said it's only gonna be used for target, so I don't see why not.
I think it would be fine, if you're willing to accept the consequences of having the high magnification along with the benefits.
You said it's only gonna be used for target, so I don't see why not.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
Provided what you are looking at has an adjustable power range, if its your only reasonable option take it. Like Hydro and Shaggyback said, 32x is way overkill, sure you can see bullet holes provided there is zero mirage but field of view is non-existant. Slightly shift your head or shooting position and your target is gone.
Provided what you are looking at has an adjustable power range, if its your only reasonable option take it. Like Hydro and Shaggyback said, 32x is way overkill, sure you can see bullet holes provided there is zero mirage but field of view is non-existant. Slightly shift your head or shooting position and your target is gone.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
Bro has straight 24 with fine target dot recticle.
Sucks for getting on target, but good for shooting long.
Bro has straight 24 with fine target dot recticle.
Sucks for getting on target, but good for shooting long.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
Overkill. That's a spotting scope with crosshairs.
If it is strictly for target shooting, ok fine. Any kind of intent to use it in any kind of practical role and it's almost completely useless.
Figure, 300 yards / 32 = 9.375 yards is how far a 300 yard target appears to you at that magnification. Less than 10 yards! How much more precision does one need? Not many rifles, including benchrest rifles have the sort of accuracy to make that kind of magnification useful at short range. I don't even think it matters. Many target rigs produce literally 1 tiny hole groups with 18-20x.
FOV will be horribly small. Now, if you said you had this on a .50 and were shooting over 1,500 yards....different story.
Overkill. That's a spotting scope with crosshairs.
If it is strictly for target shooting, ok fine. Any kind of intent to use it in any kind of practical role and it's almost completely useless.
Figure, 300 yards / 32 = 9.375 yards is how far a 300 yard target appears to you at that magnification. Less than 10 yards! How much more precision does one need? Not many rifles, including benchrest rifles have the sort of accuracy to make that kind of magnification useful at short range. I don't even think it matters. Many target rigs produce literally 1 tiny hole groups with 18-20x.
FOV will be horribly small. Now, if you said you had this on a .50 and were shooting over 1,500 yards....different story.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
If it's variable, you are ok. Higher magnification works fine as long as it's not to hot on the range which makes mirage worse, also higher magnification can hurt you in the light gathering department. When shooting late in the evening or early in the morning ( low light times)at a range or while hunting and it starts to get shady, a higher magnification scope will be harder to see out of than the same version of scope in a lower magnification. I shoot with Swarovski's, NF and top of the line Leupys...Great glass on great scopes will help to bring light in but greater magnification can be more demanding with available light.....I have a 8X32 NF and it works great and acts like a spoting scope but when light starts to dim, I have to crank down the magnification or I wont be able to see squat....SmokeRolls
If it's variable, you are ok. Higher magnification works fine as long as it's not to hot on the range which makes mirage worse, also higher magnification can hurt you in the light gathering department. When shooting late in the evening or early in the morning ( low light times)at a range or while hunting and it starts to get shady, a higher magnification scope will be harder to see out of than the same version of scope in a lower magnification. I shoot with Swarovski's, NF and top of the line Leupys...Great glass on great scopes will help to bring light in but greater magnification can be more demanding with available light.....I have a 8X32 NF and it works great and acts like a spoting scope but when light starts to dim, I have to crank down the magnification or I wont be able to see squat....SmokeRolls
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bro has straight 24 with fine target dot recticle.
Sucks for getting on target, but good for shooting long. </div></div>
I run fixed 24's for sillywet, and if you run both eyes open until you get on target its pretty quick.
I'd prefer variable FFP for practical/field use.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bro has straight 24 with fine target dot recticle.
Sucks for getting on target, but good for shooting long. </div></div>
I run fixed 24's for sillywet, and if you run both eyes open until you get on target its pretty quick.
I'd prefer variable FFP for practical/field use.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
It's an 8.5-32x 2FP scope that I'm looking at, with a 1" tube. I'd do 30mm, but the machinations in order to mount something almost aren't worth the time due to an already available rail mount that would have to be customized.
It's an 8.5-32x 2FP scope that I'm looking at, with a 1" tube. I'd do 30mm, but the machinations in order to mount something almost aren't worth the time due to an already available rail mount that would have to be customized.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's an 8.5-32x 2FP scope that I'm looking at, with a 1" tube. I'd do 30mm, but the machinations in order to mount something almost aren't worth the time due to an already available rail mount that would have to be customized.</div></div>
In general, the scope is a distraction to good shooting, unless you've had some basic marksmanship training. The scope is the great deceiver. First, it will demand you put all your concentration into aim, making you believe the barrel is pointed where desired by just establishing a steady relationship between the reticle and target. The more magnification the more deception, distracting you from building your position and adjusting your NPA before getting the hold you're after.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's an 8.5-32x 2FP scope that I'm looking at, with a 1" tube. I'd do 30mm, but the machinations in order to mount something almost aren't worth the time due to an already available rail mount that would have to be customized.</div></div>
In general, the scope is a distraction to good shooting, unless you've had some basic marksmanship training. The scope is the great deceiver. First, it will demand you put all your concentration into aim, making you believe the barrel is pointed where desired by just establishing a steady relationship between the reticle and target. The more magnification the more deception, distracting you from building your position and adjusting your NPA before getting the hold you're after.
Re: How much overkill would 32X be at 200 yards?
The less experienced you are the more you're handicapped with excessive magnification.
With your 8.5-32 at least you can dial it down for 100-200 yard range work until you get enough trigger time under your belt to take advantage of the higher powers. Many point blank 100-200 yard benchrest competitors are using fixed power scopes with 40x to 50x these days, and their scores are improving because of it, but you must realize that theirs is a highly specialzed type of shooting and what works for them doesn't necessarily mean that it'll work for other shooting disciplines.
I use several high magnification variables with magnifications that go over 30x but in my area (100 degrees+ in the summer with lots of glare from the bright sun) I find that I must dial down to around 15x-16x to make use of the scope due to excessive mirage at magnifications higher than that.
If you're going to shoot only at those shorter ranges you won't need a 30mm scope anyway. The only real advantage they have over an identical 1" scope is their additional evevation adjustment. You won't need more clicks at the ranges that you mentioned so don't worry about it!
The short answer is - use your 1" 8.5+32 scope, just dial it down as needed.
The less experienced you are the more you're handicapped with excessive magnification.
With your 8.5-32 at least you can dial it down for 100-200 yard range work until you get enough trigger time under your belt to take advantage of the higher powers. Many point blank 100-200 yard benchrest competitors are using fixed power scopes with 40x to 50x these days, and their scores are improving because of it, but you must realize that theirs is a highly specialzed type of shooting and what works for them doesn't necessarily mean that it'll work for other shooting disciplines.
I use several high magnification variables with magnifications that go over 30x but in my area (100 degrees+ in the summer with lots of glare from the bright sun) I find that I must dial down to around 15x-16x to make use of the scope due to excessive mirage at magnifications higher than that.
If you're going to shoot only at those shorter ranges you won't need a 30mm scope anyway. The only real advantage they have over an identical 1" scope is their additional evevation adjustment. You won't need more clicks at the ranges that you mentioned so don't worry about it!
The short answer is - use your 1" 8.5+32 scope, just dial it down as needed.
