how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
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Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
my plinking ammo is my precision ammo
train as you fight, fight as you train
my plinking ammo is my precision ammo
train as you fight, fight as you train
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
I agree with the above statements. I load the same ammo I compete with to practice with.
I agree with the above statements. I load the same ammo I compete with to practice with.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
I dont load crap ammo.
The only exception to this is if I have some crappy brass Im not keen on keeping, and this stuff is usually short range hunting ammo.
I dont load crap ammo.
The only exception to this is if I have some crappy brass Im not keen on keeping, and this stuff is usually short range hunting ammo.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
I reload 55gr Montana Gold bullets into 223 cases over 25.0gr of Tac for shooting out of my AR's with 4x scopes. It's 3-gun/fun gun stuff and I still get MOA or smaller from it. I rarely push it past 300 yds, but sometimes shoot it further to see what I can see. I don't screw with the flash holes, and only trim it after about 4 reloadings. It still shoots better than factory, is cheaper, and I can load it on a auto-indexing press fast. All the other rifles rounds are individually processed.
I did all of my military training and missions with M4s and M-16s with military bulk ammo. Don't know about the rest of you, but that stuff is far from what I consider precise ammo and the guns were far from babied.
I reload 55gr Montana Gold bullets into 223 cases over 25.0gr of Tac for shooting out of my AR's with 4x scopes. It's 3-gun/fun gun stuff and I still get MOA or smaller from it. I rarely push it past 300 yds, but sometimes shoot it further to see what I can see. I don't screw with the flash holes, and only trim it after about 4 reloadings. It still shoots better than factory, is cheaper, and I can load it on a auto-indexing press fast. All the other rifles rounds are individually processed.
I did all of my military training and missions with M4s and M-16s with military bulk ammo. Don't know about the rest of you, but that stuff is far from what I consider precise ammo and the guns were far from babied.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
every round is as perferct as i can make it, every time. why shoot something you can't learn with?
every round is as perferct as i can make it, every time. why shoot something you can't learn with?
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
My AR ammo is processed as follows:
Clean cases
Lube and resize, decap primer
Reclean
Trim to 1.750 if needed
Remove crimp if needed
Reload
Shoot
Since I know most of the brass is only going to get shot one time in my gun, I don't get anal about the flash hole.
Jerry
My AR ammo is processed as follows:
Clean cases
Lube and resize, decap primer
Reclean
Trim to 1.750 if needed
Remove crimp if needed
Reload
Shoot
Since I know most of the brass is only going to get shot one time in my gun, I don't get anal about the flash hole.
Jerry
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SA_Friday</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I reload 55gr Montana Gold bullets into 223 cases over 25.0gr of Tac for shooting out of my AR's with 4x scopes. It's 3-gun/fun gun stuff and I still get MOA or smaller from it. I rarely push it past 300 yds, but sometimes shoot it further to see what I can see. I don't screw with the flash holes, and only trim it after about 4 reloadings. It still shoots better than factory, is cheaper, and I can load it on a auto-indexing press fast. All the other rifles rounds are individually processed.
I did all of my military training and missions with M4s and M-16s with military bulk ammo. Don't know about the rest of you, but that stuff is far from what I consider precise ammo and the guns were far from babied. </div></div>
+1 on this (minus the military training). I plan on loading some 'plinking' ammo for carbine/3gun type stuff. I load pistol on a progressive and I plan to do 'plinking' .223 on that as well.
I load precision rounds the same way each time. I don't see a reason not to. I do a lot more dry fire than anything. Loading rounds and actually shooting at the price per round (even reloaded) is still high enough that I want each shot to count.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SA_Friday</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I reload 55gr Montana Gold bullets into 223 cases over 25.0gr of Tac for shooting out of my AR's with 4x scopes. It's 3-gun/fun gun stuff and I still get MOA or smaller from it. I rarely push it past 300 yds, but sometimes shoot it further to see what I can see. I don't screw with the flash holes, and only trim it after about 4 reloadings. It still shoots better than factory, is cheaper, and I can load it on a auto-indexing press fast. All the other rifles rounds are individually processed.
I did all of my military training and missions with M4s and M-16s with military bulk ammo. Don't know about the rest of you, but that stuff is far from what I consider precise ammo and the guns were far from babied. </div></div>
+1 on this (minus the military training). I plan on loading some 'plinking' ammo for carbine/3gun type stuff. I load pistol on a progressive and I plan to do 'plinking' .223 on that as well.
I load precision rounds the same way each time. I don't see a reason not to. I do a lot more dry fire than anything. Loading rounds and actually shooting at the price per round (even reloaded) is still high enough that I want each shot to count.
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I don't reload plinking ammo. The only reloading I do is for my precision guns - a .308 bolt gun and a .223 SPR. If I want to blast several hundred rounds doing CQB carbine drills and/or pistol - I shoot Wolf and cheap pistol ammo bought on line or from Miwall in bulk at local gunshows. To me, time is $$ and the time spent trying to crank out 200-500 rounds for a weekend is not worth it when I can shoot Wolf .223 for less than $0.30 a round and even less for my 9mm or .40 pistol.
YMMV
I don't reload plinking ammo. The only reloading I do is for my precision guns - a .308 bolt gun and a .223 SPR. If I want to blast several hundred rounds doing CQB carbine drills and/or pistol - I shoot Wolf and cheap pistol ammo bought on line or from Miwall in bulk at local gunshows. To me, time is $$ and the time spent trying to crank out 200-500 rounds for a weekend is not worth it when I can shoot Wolf .223 for less than $0.30 a round and even less for my 9mm or .40 pistol.
YMMV
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
I run 50gr bullets over AA2460. Shoots MOA in all my .223s, and I'm a lazy man. I buy 1X brass in bulk, run it through the Dillon swager to open up the primer pocket a little, and crank out rounds on the 650. It's minute-of-rat accurate out to 300, steel plate accurate out to 450, and that's as far as I've pushed it. Gets a trim after the fourth or fifth time, or if I notice any problems. I load in batches of 1K or more, usually, so if any in that batch are too long they all get a run through the Giraud.
That said: The precision rifle load gets: flash hole deburred, primer pocket uniformed, sometimes neck turned, and each load is individually weighed. If I miss, it's not the ammo or the rifle.
Oh yeah- this morning at 2am I collected a nice coyote with that load, downhill across a canyon while my buddy held the light. Dropped her DRT, bangflop, about 250 yards. (Night hunting of coyotes and bobcats is legal here.)
1911fan
I run 50gr bullets over AA2460. Shoots MOA in all my .223s, and I'm a lazy man. I buy 1X brass in bulk, run it through the Dillon swager to open up the primer pocket a little, and crank out rounds on the 650. It's minute-of-rat accurate out to 300, steel plate accurate out to 450, and that's as far as I've pushed it. Gets a trim after the fourth or fifth time, or if I notice any problems. I load in batches of 1K or more, usually, so if any in that batch are too long they all get a run through the Giraud.
That said: The precision rifle load gets: flash hole deburred, primer pocket uniformed, sometimes neck turned, and each load is individually weighed. If I miss, it's not the ammo or the rifle.
Oh yeah- this morning at 2am I collected a nice coyote with that load, downhill across a canyon while my buddy held the light. Dropped her DRT, bangflop, about 250 yards. (Night hunting of coyotes and bobcats is legal here.)
1911fan
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
These answers are what I am looking for. I load "plinking" ammo in at least 1k batches also. I think it depends on what you consider plinking ammo. I live about 2hrs from almost 1,000,000 acres of public (fed and state) land. I like to go out and warm up by hunting/chasing jack rabbits. Shotgun is best but then that doesn't leave any for next time. anyway they run 25-30 mph and zig zag all over the place. really tough to hit on the run but i have bagged a couple hundred in last decade. When they do stop it is usally 100+ yards away. longest kill shot for me was 213 lasered yards. Just go out blasting. after a couple hrs of that i'll get the shooting bench out and do some target practice and such, maybe before i leave in the evening i'll do it again. point is that as someone stated time is $$ and if i can load 500 .223 and hr on my progressive vs 100 or so on my single stage it seems worth it for the little I sacrifice in accuracy, which is still Minute of Rat as someone else stated. I was wondering how others did it.
These answers are what I am looking for. I load "plinking" ammo in at least 1k batches also. I think it depends on what you consider plinking ammo. I live about 2hrs from almost 1,000,000 acres of public (fed and state) land. I like to go out and warm up by hunting/chasing jack rabbits. Shotgun is best but then that doesn't leave any for next time. anyway they run 25-30 mph and zig zag all over the place. really tough to hit on the run but i have bagged a couple hundred in last decade. When they do stop it is usally 100+ yards away. longest kill shot for me was 213 lasered yards. Just go out blasting. after a couple hrs of that i'll get the shooting bench out and do some target practice and such, maybe before i leave in the evening i'll do it again. point is that as someone stated time is $$ and if i can load 500 .223 and hr on my progressive vs 100 or so on my single stage it seems worth it for the little I sacrifice in accuracy, which is still Minute of Rat as someone else stated. I was wondering how others did it.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
Oh in that case, like i said, if its short range hunting ammo I dont care about being ultra precise.
In saying that, if you have good equipment its not hard to get great ammo quickly.
One or two chargemasters, reprogrammed and using a single stage press you can still make a few hundred rounds in under an hour.
I do everything in stages. One day will be dedicated to decapping and cleaning cases. I might even run wet cases thru an annealing stage.
About a day later I will lube and resize the cases. Then I will prime the cases.
I try to charge and seat on the same day, but if i cant I will do it the next day. Provided i do them all on the same day they should all have similar neck tension.
About the only thing that takes more time is brass prep work and measuring concentricity/runout.
Oh in that case, like i said, if its short range hunting ammo I dont care about being ultra precise.
In saying that, if you have good equipment its not hard to get great ammo quickly.
One or two chargemasters, reprogrammed and using a single stage press you can still make a few hundred rounds in under an hour.
I do everything in stages. One day will be dedicated to decapping and cleaning cases. I might even run wet cases thru an annealing stage.
About a day later I will lube and resize the cases. Then I will prime the cases.
I try to charge and seat on the same day, but if i cant I will do it the next day. Provided i do them all on the same day they should all have similar neck tension.
About the only thing that takes more time is brass prep work and measuring concentricity/runout.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2ndamendfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These answers are what I am looking for. I load "plinking" ammo in at least 1k batches also. I think it depends on what you consider plinking ammo. I live about 2hrs from almost 1,000,000 acres of public (fed and state) land. I like to go out and warm up by hunting/chasing jack rabbits. Shotgun is best but then that doesn't leave any for next time. anyway they run 25-30 mph and zig zag all over the place. really tough to hit on the run but i have bagged a couple hundred in last decade. When they do stop it is usally 100+ yards away. longest kill shot for me was 213 lasered yards. Just go out blasting. after a couple hrs of that i'll get the shooting bench out and do some target practice and such, maybe before i leave in the evening i'll do it again. point is that as someone stated time is $$ and if i can load 500 .223 and hr on my progressive vs 100 or so on my single stage it seems worth it for the little I sacrifice in accuracy, which is still Minute of Rat as someone else stated. I was wondering how others did it. </div></div>
Exactly.
I bring this point up often.
I load appr. 600 rounds/month for myself and my two sons.
Damned if I'm gonna do it to .1 grains or less with a trickler and a single stage press for maximum accuracy...I use a progessive (Hornady LNL) with a case-activated powder drop, but I still only run I shell at a time through it to better keep any eye on things. I'm willing to "sacrifice" a bit of accuracy loading to within .2, which seems to be it's usual tolerance.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2ndamendfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These answers are what I am looking for. I load "plinking" ammo in at least 1k batches also. I think it depends on what you consider plinking ammo. I live about 2hrs from almost 1,000,000 acres of public (fed and state) land. I like to go out and warm up by hunting/chasing jack rabbits. Shotgun is best but then that doesn't leave any for next time. anyway they run 25-30 mph and zig zag all over the place. really tough to hit on the run but i have bagged a couple hundred in last decade. When they do stop it is usally 100+ yards away. longest kill shot for me was 213 lasered yards. Just go out blasting. after a couple hrs of that i'll get the shooting bench out and do some target practice and such, maybe before i leave in the evening i'll do it again. point is that as someone stated time is $$ and if i can load 500 .223 and hr on my progressive vs 100 or so on my single stage it seems worth it for the little I sacrifice in accuracy, which is still Minute of Rat as someone else stated. I was wondering how others did it. </div></div>
Exactly.
I bring this point up often.
I load appr. 600 rounds/month for myself and my two sons.
Damned if I'm gonna do it to .1 grains or less with a trickler and a single stage press for maximum accuracy...I use a progessive (Hornady LNL) with a case-activated powder drop, but I still only run I shell at a time through it to better keep any eye on things. I'm willing to "sacrifice" a bit of accuracy loading to within .2, which seems to be it's usual tolerance.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
The only plinking ammo that I used, was for my AR15.
Winchester brass, debured flash hole and squared primer pocket.
Loaded on my Dillon 650 with win primers and wc845 surplus powder, 55grs soft point sitting on top.
300 rnds an hour on the press
1/2 moa at 200yds
The only plinking ammo that I used, was for my AR15.
Winchester brass, debured flash hole and squared primer pocket.
Loaded on my Dillon 650 with win primers and wc845 surplus powder, 55grs soft point sitting on top.
300 rnds an hour on the press
1/2 moa at 200yds
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
do you debur flash holes? NO
turn necks? NO.
tumble clean? YES
Run your Dillon using a powder that meters accurately while watching all your dies and adjustments for vibrations that cause issues. A powder I use with good result is WW748.
*note: if the brass is crappy chamfer it.
Then have fun and be happy.
do you debur flash holes? NO
turn necks? NO.
tumble clean? YES
Run your Dillon using a powder that meters accurately while watching all your dies and adjustments for vibrations that cause issues. A powder I use with good result is WW748.
*note: if the brass is crappy chamfer it.
Then have fun and be happy.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
I go to the store and buy a cases of 223 PMC and CCI 22lr. I don't make plinking ammo, not worth it.
I go to the store and buy a cases of 223 PMC and CCI 22lr. I don't make plinking ammo, not worth it.
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
Anything inside a mile is plinking on this site
Anything inside a mile is plinking on this site
Re: how much work do you put into your plinking ammo?
I just figured that I would put the same amout of energy into everything that I reload. I havn't shot past 200, but I like playing with my equipment (why I started shooting). I just figured that would reduce the chance of getting plinking ammo when you don't want it, and keep the feel etc consistant.
I just figured that I would put the same amout of energy into everything that I reload. I havn't shot past 200, but I like playing with my equipment (why I started shooting). I just figured that would reduce the chance of getting plinking ammo when you don't want it, and keep the feel etc consistant.
