I like the idea of a scout rifle. Never got a chance to try a forward mounted scope and with LVPOs not sure if the forward mount would help. I would like to try it but I am skeptical how well it word in low light.A good option would be a Ruger Gunsite Scout in 308. They're a little pricey, but the M77 action if taken care of will last lifetimes. The scout was also designed to be a quick to the shoulder and shoot rifle. As far as the bull barrel, they're great for target shooting, but from personal experience they're heavier than hell toting them through the deer woods.
14.5" 300BO Barnes 110 TAC TX at 2450fps
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What speed do you get out of your 300Hamr with 110gr bullets?Right idea, wrong cartridge. Go 300 HAMR and don't look back.
Also good, especially since Wilson Combat bought NULA from Melvin Forbes.
Really any sporter rifle you could get your hands on with be fine, even used. If money is an issue I get a used 308 in reasonable condition and spend extra on good quality glass. LPVO is fine but a good 3x9 or 3.5-10, 2.5-10 will also work. I've shot running rabbits with any of those I listed so on a standard hunter it'll work. Heck my first big game shot was on a running caribou with a Leupold VariXIII 1.5-5x from a 45-70 Marlin. A decent used Leupold varix III or Zeiss Conquest 3-9 would be my baseline scope for your needs.I like the idea of a scout rifle. Never got a chance to try a forward mounted scope and with LVPOs not sure if the forward mount would help. I would like to try it but I am skeptical how well it word in low light.
That said I do love the specs of the ruger and savage scout rifles. They seem priced a bit high for me, maybe I will end up shooting a lot and feel like upgrading. At my level, I don't think I would appreciate the difference between say the ruger scout and the RAP for the extra $.
I use the scout for hunting in bush where you aren't going to get shots off further than 100 yds at best, and most are within 50. Either a red dot or a scout scope are great additions to it. Not heavy at all, I've walked all day through think bush with itI like the idea of a scout rifle. Never got a chance to try a forward mounted scope and with LVPOs not sure if the forward mount would help. I would like to try it but I am skeptical how well it word in low light.
That said I do love the specs of the ruger and savage scout rifles. They seem priced a bit high for me, maybe I will end up shooting a lot and feel like upgrading. At my level, I don't think I would appreciate the difference between say the ruger scout and the RAP for the extra $.
I like the idea of a scout rifle. Never got a chance to try a forward mounted scope and with LVPOs not sure if the forward mount would help. I would like to try it but I am skeptical how well it word in low light.
That said I do love the specs of the ruger and savage scout rifles. They seem priced a bit high for me, maybe I will end up shooting a lot and feel like upgrading. At my level, I don't think I would appreciate the difference between say the ruger scout and the RAP for the extra $.
Ya, I don't know. I really only want to shoot the Barnes 110gr TAC Tax. It's a nasty bullet. I researched 300HAMR quite a bit. Almost ordered a barrel, dies, and brass. But as I looked it seemed like Wilson's velocity data was a little overblown. No one that had one was reporting those velocities. And it says on his website that 1680 was the key to bringing the 300HAMR together after a lot of trial. So the idea of buying new dies, and really a new toolhead for the 650 and trim die, new brass that looks very similar to all my other 300BO brass, and a barrel....for a one powder cartridge....that may or may not deliver significantly more velocity to justify.....I waved off. I'm pretty good with 2450 out of a 14.5" barrel. Mine is a 1:12" and truth be told the last bunch of ammo I loaded was 21gr H110 and I was at 2500fps. No pressure signs. Range pick up converted 223 brass. And superb accuracy; it shoots well under sub moa. Freakishly accurate actually With the Barnes 110.@reubenski
I don't shoot 110s.
I do shoot 125 TNT at ~~2,500 FPS
This from the Wilson Combat 300 HAMR webpage
HISTORY
BALLISTIC COMPARISON
300 HAM’R
300 BLACKOUT
- 16.25” Barrel
- Sierra 110gr HP 2600FPS MV, 1651FP ME
- Sierra 125gr SBT 2520FPS MV, 1763FP ME
- Sierra 135gr HP Varminter 2400FPS MV, 1727FP ME
- Hornady 150gr SST 2290FPS MV, 1747FP ME
- 16.25” Barrel
- Hornady Black 110gr V-MAX 2395FPS MV, 1401FP ME
- Hornady 125gr HP American Gunner 2175FPS MV, 1313FP ME
- Hornady 135gr FTX 2055FPS MV, 1266FP ME
- Federal 150gr Fusion 1900FPS MV, 1202FP ME
Exactly. I like the idea of either Ruger American Ranch in either 7.62x39 or 6.5 G. Low recoil, small handy rifle should with enough energy for sub 200 yard shots. Howerver, when I started looking around for hunting ammo for the caliber they seemed hard to come by. I do not plan to start reloading, would be fun but not sure I have the time.I’ve read this thread twice and went a slightly different route. My father came out of multiple back surgeries a couple of weeks ago and wanted a compact, low recoil rifle for deer season. We were considering the 300 BO, but several friends Who are hunting and shooting fools recommended the Howa 1500 Mini in 6.5 Grendel. They have had good success with t out to 300 yards. After sighting it in, I found my holdover at 500 meters and placed 5 shots in the kill zone on an NRA Ram silhouette from a rest. Since he won’t be taking any shots grater than 200 yards, this package will do the job very well.
At this time I am working up loads using Lead Free for it, because they are impossible to find.
Only rifle less than $1000 I have owned that I like better than a Tikka is a Kimber Hunter.
Check out 65grendel.com they have a Section just on hunting and some of the members evaluate a lot of ammo in real applications. I came across some factory Hornady loaded with the 123gr A-Max today in a LGS in NV so it is starting to trickle in now. Also Cavity Back Bullets out of Montana is selling loaded 6.5 Gr with their Lead Free Projectiles.Exactly. I like the idea of either Ruger American Ranch in either 7.62x39 or 6.5 G. Low recoil, small handy rifle should with enough energy for sub 200 yard shots. Howerver, when I started looking around for hunting ammo for the caliber they seemed hard to come by. I do not plan to start reloading, would be fun but not sure I have the time.
It's your gun if you like I love it and if I only had 1 centerfire rifle the 308 win would be my choice you can getammo anywhereThanks for all of the replies.
I know .308 is not necessary for deer and hogs but it is readily available and capable if I ever get the chance to hunt larger game.
I liked these two models due to ergonomics and price point. The tikka ctr does look good, I hadn't considered that rifle. I did not see any in my area.
It seems like to most the heavier barrel on the 110 savage hunter would not offer any benefit. So it comes down to preference, which I do like the open top of the 110 action. The predator looks like it would be hard to load a round from the top.
Me too on the 308 Win. Will cover a lot of game from varmints on up. My only centerfire is a Savage 110 in .223. While I like it very much, a part of me wishes I had gone with a 308.It's your gun if you like I love it and if I only had 1 centerfire rifle the 308 win would be my choice you can getammo anywhere
I'm pretty sure you could convert it by getting a bolthead, barrel, and magbox.Me too on the 308 Win. Will cover a lot of game from varmints on up. My only centerfire is a Savage 110 in .223. While I like it very much, a part of me wishes I had gone with a 308.
That is indeed a thought. I`d think even more seriously about it if I were going to take up serious deer hunting.I'm pretty sure you could convert it by getting a bolthead, barrel, and magbox.