Im standing my ground...no really.
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He said he broke the window because the guy was passed out,......
and he thought he was going to try to drive away.
Wut?
Say what?
WTF?
Do huh?
The part of the video we don't see seems like it PRETTY FUCKING PERTINENT to the "stabbing". If the MFer has already vehicularly assaulted an innocent, and was continuing to "attack" (use his car as a weapon), this could certainly be a viable defense, but of course we don't see that do we. All we have is him stabbing a guy through the window, and everyone jumps to the conclusion he's a psycho.Interesting question.
What led ex-prosecutor to stab driver on the Howard Frankland Bridge? New court documents may shed light
New court documents may shed light on a 2023 incident involving a former federal prosecutor accused of stabbing a man who crashed into him on the Howard Frankland Bridge.www.wfla.com
Just like we didn't see the 30 minutes of video of George Floyd attacking the police and resisting arrest... The internet lies. It edits and distorts.
All that said, if you stab someone you are much more likely to go to jail than if you shoot somebody.
Gotta say if someone's trying to kill me with their car, the first thing I think isn't gonna be "Hey, lemme get out of my car, break his window, and then stab him a few times to get him to stop." Even a Fiat 500 can turn a human into a greasy smear pretty readily.
Stabber also looks like he gobbles cocks in shitty bathroom gloryholes for fun, not coke money, too.
He momentarily forget he was no longer a prosecutor and did not have get out of jail free card.
Perhaps but stabbing the man and trying to stab other onlookers isn't defensible. Certainly not under Stand Your Ground.
"According to his attorneys, Scruggs got out of his car with a pocketknife, used it to break Sharp’s window, and Sharp tried to drive away. In the ensuing struggle to unlock Sharp’s door from the inside, he “fought back” and was stabbed multiple times by Scruggs, the court document says."
Sounds to me like Sharp has a defence to get away from stubby.
door locked,want to stab the guy,use knife to bust window? not a stand your ground. try to drive away and escape from stabbing assault,no gun for whatever reason what else to do since auto security has been breached?
have no idea but DeSantis removed the Tampa DA for not prosecuting serious crimes as we have seen everywhere. was this idiot a member of that crew thinking his violent crime would get a refusal to prosecute? just asking.
have no idea but DeSantis removed the Tampa DA for not prosecuting serious crimes as we have seen everywhere. was this idiot a member of that crew thinking his violent crime would get a refusal to prosecute? just asking.
It does not seem all that pertinent at all. None of that was happening when Scruggs got his knife, got out, and went to the other vehicle. That part was over.
You wrote "If . . . was continuing to 'attack'" but the article is pretty clear that nothing was continuing at that point.
It would be better if we could watch that part of the video (if there is video of that. The article is not clear), but the article states that the vehicles stuck together and came to a stop. Then Scruggs decides to get out of his car, pissed off that it was hit and got all stabby.
It is Scruggs's attorneys who claim that the stabbee was trying to drive away. I am not going to put a lot of stock in what the attorneys are saying trying to spin this into a legally justified stab-fest.
I just re-read the article, and there is nothing about a video of this portion. The article is based entirely on what the stabber's attorneys told the media.
I guess like always we will have to wait and see what comes out in the future or at trial.
Agree, and most of us would light him up, but if he didn’t have a gun and was trying to get him
A weapon is a weapon. Consider if both of them had guns instead of a car and a pocket knife, and I don't think you would be anywhere near as quick to pick a position as a hill to die upon. The disparity of force between a car and a pocket knife is massive. It takes either a psycho or someone with huge balls to take on a car with a pocket knife, period. He was trying to take the weapon (the car) away from the attacker, and ended up using the pocket knife to accomplish that. The only reason this was even possible is because he had already wrecked into another car and was trying to unstick his car from that wreck.
Seems to me that the people just condemning the guy and jumping to conclusions without having all the facts are exactly the same people who would stop and film this guy trying to run people down on the highway rather than doing something. This guy saw a crime in progress and tried to stop it and protect people. The cops can't do that, because they can't be everywhere. If that was your family the guy was attacking and all you had was a pocket knife, what would you do?
I wasn't there, and I have no idea how it went down, but I think many of the opinions would be reversed if we didn't have a snippet of video, but just the facts, and the guy had shot the driver attacking people with his car instead of running up to the window (because he was stuck), and trying to drag him out and stop the attack. The (my) initial take on this was wrong, because all I saw was the video of him stabbing. Once you hear WHY and WHAT it takes on a totally different light.
Most of us carry guns, and would never even think about trying to stop some maniac in a car attacking people with a pocket knife. We would shoot him and stop the threat. That's basically what this guy did, only the hard way.
Not if he has already attacked someone with his vehicle, and is trying to still attack more people with his vehicle (but is temporarily stuck). You have to ignore everything before the video to come to the conclusions here, but it's the internet where that's the norm.
A weapon is a weapon. Consider if both of them had guns instead of a car and a pocket knife, and I don't think you would be anywhere near as quick to pick a position as a hill to die upon. The disparity of force between a car and a pocket knife is massive. It takes either a psycho or someone with huge balls to take on a car with a pocket knife, period. He was trying to take the weapon (the car) away from the attacker, and ended up using the pocket knife to accomplish that. The only reason this was even possible is because he had already wrecked into another car and was trying to unstick his car from that wreck.
Seems to me that the people just condemning the guy and jumping to conclusions without having all the facts are exactly the same people who would stop and film this guy trying to run people down on the highway rather than doing something. This guy saw a crime in progress and tried to stop it and protect people. The cops can't do that, because they can't be everywhere. If that was your family the guy was attacking and all you had was a pocket knife, what would you do?
I wasn't there, and I have no idea how it went down, but I think many of the opinions would be reversed if we didn't have a snippet of video, but just the facts, and the guy had shot the driver attacking people with his car instead of running up to the window (because he was stuck), and trying to drag him out and stop the attack. The (my) initial take on this was wrong, because all I saw was the video of him stabbing. Once you hear WHY and WHAT it takes on a totally different light.
Most of us carry guns, and would never even think about trying to stop some maniac in a car attacking people with a pocket knife. We would shoot him and stop the threat. That's basically what this guy did, only the hard way.
He has already
Again, you have to ignore information or disbelieve Scruggs. He has already used his car to push the other one down the highway. If he's still trying to use his car as a weapon saying the attack is over is incorrect. You're just assuming he's trying to flee, what if he's trying to back up to strike again? If that was my family in the victim's car I would not make that assumption, but would make sure he had stopped.
This is like saying that someone who is shot but crawling towards their dropped gun is no longer a threat because the attack has stopped. The attack hasn't stopped till they are disarmed and can't get the weapon again.
Again, because this is a vehicle and a knife I think you don't want to see it.
I'm also not saying I'm right. I fucking don't know, which is why this isn't my hill to die on, I'm just saying that the video is as or more deceptive than the George Floyd bullshit, because it intentionally leaves out everything that transpired before, including the vehicular assault.
This completely hinges on whether the attack had stopped, or, if as Scruggs said, he was trying to reverse and unstick his car from the crash.
Again, you have to ignore information or disbelieve Scruggs. He has already used his car to push the other one down the highway. If he's still trying to use his car as a weapon saying the attack is over is incorrect. You're just assuming he's trying to flee, what if he's trying to back up to strike again? If that was my family in the victim's car I would not make that assumption, but would make sure he had stopped.
This is like saying that someone who is shot but crawling towards their dropped gun is no longer a threat because the attack has stopped. The attack hasn't stopped till they are disarmed and can't get the weapon again.
Again, because this is a vehicle and a knife I think you don't want to see it.
I'm also not saying I'm right. I fucking don't know, which is why this isn't my hill to die on, I'm just saying that the video is as or more deceptive than the George Floyd bullshit, because it intentionally leaves out everything that transpired before, including the vehicular assault.
Agreed, and I said so in my post.
I do not see any attempt to flee in the video.
Stabber dude's attorneys say it was happening. Well, ok. Whatever. Prove it, Mr. Attorney.
That is why I said we will have to wait and see.
What happened before will not justify a stab fest unless it was continuing. It will not even justify the second round of stab fest, which we all saw on the video, because we can see pretty damn well with our own eyes that nothing was going on in the break between stab fest one and stab fest 2.0.
I leave room open to consider things not visible or heard or readily apparent on the video.
Threatening the bystander who approached, however? Yeah, should have gotten Scruggs shot.
There is a lot of bad information and not much good for stabber about the stab fest (1.0 and 2.0).
If he does not plead guilty maybe we will get lucky, and it will all be aired on YouTube like the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. Then we will know every detail.
Well, isn't he a prosecutor?
I mean, that alone is a huge strike against his credibility, ethics, and morals right there, isn't it?
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