Iran go boom
- Thread starter _Windrider_
- Start date
Sounds good in theory. Except the only ordinance the French Air Force has is cluster munitions of white flags.
some people aren't worth arguing with. A few years back, there was a discussion about german and soviet WW2 sniper rifles. I've owned all of them over the years, long side rail, short side rail, ZF41, high turret, claw mounts, G43 with ZF4, PEMs, PUs, even M41b's so I'm very familiar with them. He was arguing about everything. I even quoted findings from the german armaments committees - documented primary sources - and he was arguing against those also. Sometimes you just have to say IDGAF and wave and keep scrolling.
Look up the Cyrus Cylinder. the Jews referred to him as a Messiah.
then the temple began to be rebuilt, ultimately the Persians restored the gold and silver which the babylonians had stolen
Start in Ezra 8. The Persians restored the Temple, and really coddled the Jews.
21 And there by the Ahava Canal, I gave orders for all of us to fast and humble ourselves before our God. We prayed that he would give us a safe journey and protect us, our children, and our goods as we traveled. 22 For I was ashamed to ask the king for soldiers and horsemen[f] to accompany us and protect us from enemies along the way. After all, we had told the king, “Our God’s hand of protection is on all who worship him, but his fierce anger rages against those who abandon him.” 23 So we fasted and earnestly prayed that our God would take care of us, and he heard our prayer.
24 I appointed twelve leaders of the priests—Sherebiah, Hashabiah, and ten other priests— 25 to be in charge of transporting the silver, the gold, the gold bowls, and the other items that the king, his council, his officials, and all the people of Israel had presented for the Temple of God. 26 I weighed the treasure as I gave it to them and found the totals to be as follows:
24 tons[g] of silver,
7,500 pounds[h] of silver articles,
7,500 pounds of gold,
27 20 gold bowls, equal in value to 1,000 gold coins,[i]
2 fine articles of polished bronze, as precious as gold.
28 And I said to these priests, “You and these treasures have been set apart as holy to the Lord. This silver and gold is a voluntary offering to the Lord, the God of our ancestors. 29 Guard these treasures well until you present them to the leading priests, the Levites, and the leaders of Israel, who will weigh them at the storerooms of the Lord’s Temple in Jerusalem.” 30 So the priests and the Levites accepted the task of transporting these treasures of silver and gold to the Temple of our God in Jerusalem.
31 We broke camp at the Ahava Canal on April 19[j] and started off to Jerusalem.
Last edited:
"know what they're doing" = EGO! As long as you keep yours in check, and your gear in order, and your mind on the rules etc. you should come home at the end of your dive. Never be afraid to turn around and end the dive if you feel it necessary. And have the wisdom to know when you should turn it around and the courage to do so.
i was never warm in any wet suit> 2 atmospheres. never used a dry suit. actually had a hypothermic episode in snorkeling depth. super stupid. was in FL summer water for > 2hr. body temp dropping < 96/95 deg prob after 2hr. interesting experience not fun.
Thank you, I hadnt heard of the Cyrus Cylinder, I'll do some further reading. I (may) see a couple errors in your position, but right at this point I have some obligations which prevent me from doing a thorough investigation and comment. I dont want to insult you with less. I'll just respectfully leave it to another time. Be well.
the Cylinder, which was directed to the Babylonians, was apparently one of several similar proclamations that Cyrus made to the different groups in the new empire. He was respectful to their traditions and religions, and did his homework before making these proclamations. to the Jews he said:
'Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia: All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD, the God of heaven, given me; and He hath charged me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whosoever there is among you of all His people—his God be with him—let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and build the house of the LORD, the God of Israel, He is the God who is in Jerusalem. And whosoever is left, in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill-offering for the house of God which is in Jerusalem.'
now, here is the interesting thing. if you believe in prophecy, you'll remember Isaiah, who lived and wrote around 740 BC....... which was about 200 years before the birth of Cyrus, long before the Achaemenids or Persian empire was even a thought :
Isaiah 44:28 -
When I say of Cyrus, ‘He is my shepherd,’
he will certainly do as I say.
He will command, ‘Rebuild Jerusalem’;
he will say, ‘Restore the Temple.’
and Isaiah 45:1-13
45 “This is what the Lord says to his anointed,
to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
to subdue nations before him
and to strip kings of their armor,
to open doors before him
so that gates will not be shut:
2 I will go before you
and will level the mountains[a];
I will break down gates of bronze
and cut through bars of iron.
3 I will give you hidden treasures,
riches stored in secret places,
so that you may know that I am the Lord,
the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
4 For the sake of Jacob my servant,
of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
and bestow on you a title of honor,
though you do not acknowledge me.
5 I am the Lord, and there is no other.......
11 “This is what the Lord says—
the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker:
Concerning things to come,
do you question me about my children,
or give me orders about the work of my hands?
12 It is I who made the earth
and created mankind on it.
My own hands stretched out the heavens;
I marshaled their starry hosts.
13 I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness:
I will make all his ways straight.
He will rebuild my city
and set my exiles free,
but not for a price or reward,
says the Lord Almighty.”
No disagreement from me as far as doing those things and coming home . Operative term is “ should “. It would appear to me that the % of folks in cave diving with “ I’m macho man !! “ attitudes may be somewhat higher than some other forms of recreational diving. Not lumping you with that group, by the way,
I say "should," because one "should" always respect the "X" factor. Anything can happen, no matter how well prepared/vigilant/anti-ego one is. $hit happens. The question then becomes, "can you extract yourself from that situation?" We always go by the principle of solving small problems quickly before they become bigger problems or turn into a true "Charlie Foxtrot." Like I say, know when to turn around and go back. And, always remember, for the most part, the way out is the way you went in. You can't go straight up as with Open Water. Therefore, for example, we set our own reel lines all the way from the open water entrance to the first "main line" installed in the cave. And we install other reels in places where there are gaps, etc. Big rule in cave diving is "Always maintain a continuous line to open water" So when you go in, you set your own lines as needed and as you turn back, you pull them, leaving the permanent lines in tact.
Still, no amount of preparation is going to help when there's an earthquake, or a sink hole incident, or a gator or something like that. Rare...yes, but it could happen. Most of the time, it's people who don't do proper gas management (i.e. ignore the "rule of thirds" --> 1/3 gas used going in, 1/3 used coming out and 1/3 for contingencies). Also people who don't have proper fining techniques and kick up a bunch of silt, causing black out/blizzard conditions. If you can't find your reel line, let alone follow it out, you'll run out of gas and die before finding the exit. Or they don't set their lines properly and get lost.
It's mostly human ego/error. But there could be some "X" factor things that happen, just as they can happen in other aspects of life.
OK, back to topic at hand. I hope those missiles from Iran after the ceasefire were only rouges. And I hope the Iranian govt. clamps down on them.
I didn’t realize the Hide had so many liberal cucks on it. 
I think you're just reading things wrong. Most everyone here is all for a President with a stronge backbone, but what did we accomplish with this? It's just wasted money! I would say 99% of the people on this forum are tired of the same shit, different President. Most everyone elected a guy to drain the swamp, not do swamp things. This looks like swamp things to me.I didn’t realize the Hide had so many liberal cucks on it.
I don't want ME bullshit in our country, but how does this help or prevent that? Israel is more than capable of fighting thier wars. If they need help, they can ask NATO, and NATO can decide what to do. We don't need to be the world police.
This is what we voted for:
Tracking Trump’s presidential promises
Donald Trump made a lot of big promises during his 2024 run for the White House. The Associated Press is tracking some of them.
apnews.com
Let's focus on those!!!!
As predicted bunker busters did not come even close to penetrating
The Maxar frame confirms it: Fordow’s heart is still beating.
Despite the drop of at least 6 GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrators, the imagery shows that the damage pattern skirts the outer shell of the site. Crater geometry and spacing are consistent with volley-mode sequencing designed to minimize shock front overlap, but all visible penetrations hug the periphery, either due to mis-queued coordinates or deliberate decoying via the site’s curved adit network.
The visible ejecta tells its own story. Opacity is low in the VNIR band, indicating a dust-only loft, no oxidized blast pattern, no epithermal signature, no heat venting. This means the warheads expended most of their energy in the overburden. No concentric spalling rings, no radial fractures exceeding 50 meters, and no post-strike IR bloom to indicate a breach of the core’s thermal envelope. The shallow subsidence patch at the upper center measures less than 10 meters across and under half a meter deep, nowhere near the magnitude required to indicate a cascade hall collapse.
What is visible is denial work. Fresh spoil piles flank the tunnel mouths at the southern bend, light-toned and loosely compacted, indicative of rapid back-blading by engineering crews, not post-strike structural failure. This suggests Iran moved quickly to obscure ingress points, either to mask internal survivability or mislead further ISR analysis.
The main enrichment halls, estimated at -90 meters below surface, remain sealed, pressurized, and likely electrically fed via alternate routing. What was damaged is surface infrastructure: access shafts, intake routes, possibly control galleries. All of it replaceable. None of it critical to cascade function.
Washington may claim a show of force, but Fordow endures. The media got their mushroom dust, the Pentagon got its footage, and Iran got a live test of its subterranean resilience. The deeper program survives, untouched beneath 90 meters of mountain.
~ Thomas Keith
The Maxar frame confirms it: Fordow’s heart is still beating.
Despite the drop of at least 6 GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrators, the imagery shows that the damage pattern skirts the outer shell of the site. Crater geometry and spacing are consistent with volley-mode sequencing designed to minimize shock front overlap, but all visible penetrations hug the periphery, either due to mis-queued coordinates or deliberate decoying via the site’s curved adit network.
The visible ejecta tells its own story. Opacity is low in the VNIR band, indicating a dust-only loft, no oxidized blast pattern, no epithermal signature, no heat venting. This means the warheads expended most of their energy in the overburden. No concentric spalling rings, no radial fractures exceeding 50 meters, and no post-strike IR bloom to indicate a breach of the core’s thermal envelope. The shallow subsidence patch at the upper center measures less than 10 meters across and under half a meter deep, nowhere near the magnitude required to indicate a cascade hall collapse.
What is visible is denial work. Fresh spoil piles flank the tunnel mouths at the southern bend, light-toned and loosely compacted, indicative of rapid back-blading by engineering crews, not post-strike structural failure. This suggests Iran moved quickly to obscure ingress points, either to mask internal survivability or mislead further ISR analysis.
The main enrichment halls, estimated at -90 meters below surface, remain sealed, pressurized, and likely electrically fed via alternate routing. What was damaged is surface infrastructure: access shafts, intake routes, possibly control galleries. All of it replaceable. None of it critical to cascade function.
Washington may claim a show of force, but Fordow endures. The media got their mushroom dust, the Pentagon got its footage, and Iran got a live test of its subterranean resilience. The deeper program survives, untouched beneath 90 meters of mountain.
~ Thomas Keith
Even more interesting, considering that either son or grandson Pahlavi is offering to return to Iran to rule.... Hmmmmmm.......
So what qualifies him to make those calls? Who is he?
I would say opinions vary only one way to know for sure.
Interesting that this is the kind of stuff you always post though.
I mean I could look at those pictures and make shit up.
People actively look for shit that enforces their own viewpoint it's just how humans work.
I think you're just reading things wrong. Most everyone here is all for a President with a stronge backbone, but what did we accomplish with this? It's just wasted money! I would say 99% of the people on this forum are tired of the same shit, different President. Most everyone elected a guy to drain the swamp, not do swamp things. This looks like swamp things to me.
I don't want ME bullshit in our country, but how does this help or prevent that? Israel is more than capable of fighting thier wars. If they need help, they can ask NATO, and NATO can decide what to do. We don't need to be the world police.
This is what we voted for:
Tracking Trump’s presidential promises
Donald Trump made a lot of big promises during his 2024 run for the White House. The Associated Press is tracking some of them.apnews.com
Let's focus on those!!!!
Could not have said it better.
Family has been for a few decades.
It would be a mess to pull off. Likely better to keep them contained at this point.
government is run by retards, or they know and just lie to fool their constituents.
government is run by retards, or they know and just lie to fool their constituents.
Demoncrats lie about everything because their constituents are a bunch of angry morons
If they didn't lie then they'd have to come up with an actual plan and they don't wanna do that it's easier to just OrangeManBad everything
To me it’s laughable when thinking about notifying that clown show 48 hours in advance of a military action. The thing that that would assure is a prepared adversary.government is run by retards, or they know and just lie to fool their constituents.
What’s the assessed NIIRS on that collect?
Is he basing his assessment on that shot or others from other phenomenologies?
Israel is not in NATO so how would NATO help (NATO cannot find funds for their own military). Israel did not have the bunker busters or the aircraft required to make that strike.I think you're just reading things wrong. Most everyone here is all for a President with a stronge backbone, but what did we accomplish with this? It's just wasted money! I would say 99% of the people on this forum are tired of the same shit, different President. Most everyone elected a guy to drain the swamp, not do swamp things. This looks like swamp things to me.
I don't want ME bullshit in our country, but how does this help or prevent that? Israel is more than capable of fighting thier wars. If they need help, they can ask NATO, and NATO can decide what to do. We don't need to be the world police.
This is what we voted for:
Tracking Trump’s presidential promises
Donald Trump made a lot of big promises during his 2024 run for the White House. The Associated Press is tracking some of them.apnews.com
Let's focus on those!!!!
Its suprise to no one that did minimal research into subject , they were not even at 30% needed penetration . But they served their purpose , wolves were fed ,goats counted , everyone could stop shooting at eachother without loosing face. Trump should get an oscar for this.
That fucker would use military force on our ass if he could! Fuck Hawkcum Jefferies!government is run by retards, or they know and just lie to fool their constituents.
I don’t believe anything either side says at this point. By the way (again), who is Thomas Keith?
government is run by retards, XX and they know and just lie to fool their constituents.
FIFY....
I don’t think Trump is capable of telling the truth. Idiot says the sites were “obliterated “. Then the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency says the hits failed to destroy key elements of Iran’s nuclear program and only set them back a few months. What a fucking retard. Please let Vance takeover now.
Similar threads
