Israel/iran
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It does not matter in the USA what happens in the ME as far as gas prices.
Hell we got oil pouring out of our ass. It is what the average dumbshits belive the pissey fit going on effects oil availability.
It's horseshit. We don't need thier oil and well, fuck the rest of the world .
Who is controlling the shipping lanes ? At the moment appears to be the USA.
If this is a religion thing, lets just sent a few 'Rods From God" to both. After the dust settles the answer would there for all, to see?
I'm Baptist so I'll be in the very back row near the door, with my Corn dodgers & Uh mountain water.
I'm Baptist so I'll be in the very back row near the door, with my Corn dodgers & Uh mountain water.
AIPAC tells Democrats to get in line and ‘stand with Israel’ – Middle East Monitor
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Well seems that Russia & China took Nancys Ray-Guns advice & told the Trumpster,... No.
Have to wonder how the MIC will work that problem?
Have to wonder how the MIC will work that problem?
The SS may have been too incompetent to kill Trump, but Israel sure isn't.
This seems to be somewhat new development , headcovering was still madatory last time i was there but that was now 10y ago , it was quite bizzare the action that was happening on the airport as soon as jet started rolling down the tarmac, women folk started undresing . Passenger photo before and after would have been hilarious , massive outfit change
*it seems this is now practice in Tehran and other mayor cities for 2 or so years . and things went beyond scarfes
*it seems this is now practice in Tehran and other mayor cities for 2 or so years . and things went beyond scarfes
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They are very good at their job. What they release to the media is what they want you to know and not the actual facts. They don't give a rats ass that 5% of the population actually know that they are putting out bullshit, 15% don't pay attention to geopolitics and 10% think that they are incompetent. 50% believe that they are telling the truth and that's their intended audience.
All the world is a stage
Remember how Biden dumping the strategic oil reserve was a huge thing? And how US oil companies hit record profits and volume of shipped oil over the past few years? Haven't heard much on how Trump's going to un-fuck what Biden did, which seems like it would be a major factor in how we handle ME bullshit. We still import significantly more than we export.
Like the 51 top intelligence agents signing a certified letter than Hunters laptop was RuSsIaN DiSiNfOrMaTiOn?
Which is part of the strategy & planning to keep forevermore wars, started & going.
Good standingOne of the great ironies of this war is that it's allegedly being waged because a country who doesn't have nuclear weapons and is a member in good standing of the non-proliferation treaty, is being accused by a country that secretly has nukes and isn't part of the non-proliferation treaty of attempting to build nukes (with no evidence to back up that assertion and counter to US intelligence assessments).
Things that make you go
. Are you kidding? Iran?You're talking about the "Rods from God" plan.
From experience, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, until their usefulness wears off is how they played it in Iraq and Afghanistan. That seems to be a common thing over there.
You missed it just a little, changing your last word to,... here,... would be an,... impact
I believe the Muslims' say
brother against brother
family against family
tribe against tribe
nation against nation
islam against the world
So?
The ME is a shit hole.
We shouldn't fight trillion+ dollar wars because a country is a shit hole, only to turn it into a bigger shit hole.
How is that in our interests?
putin said something like this the other day...that iran's underground missile factories have not been hit (yet).
So is ISIS in Syria that the US and Israel support. A regime conducting sexual assault is a super low bar anyway, if they ever dropped Epstein's list, Keir Starmer's male escort vandalism issues etc.
I stand by my statement.
We could make adjustments to our refining process and run strait domestic.
The fact that it's cheaper to import and use a blend doesn't change what I said.
I've wondered about all that for awhile.
For better or worse, capitalism stands in the way. As long as the oil companies can make more doing it the way they are, it wont change,
American interests be damned.
Do you have any idea how much money it would take to do that?
You’d probably be the first one bitching when fuel cost went through the fucking roof
Our short term profit driven system is eventually going to run itself into the ground.
The narrow minded strategy of riding a horse into the ground will bite the US in the ass.
Investing money into infrastructure that will run our own oil and make profits will be the future like it or not.
We can't expect a steady supply from anywhere except ourselves.
The narrow minded strategy of riding a horse into the ground will bite the US in the ass.
Investing money into infrastructure that will run our own oil and make profits will be the future like it or not.
We can't expect a steady supply from anywhere except ourselves.
The way we run things someday when we go solar some son of a bitch will figure out how to stuff thier pockets with imported daylight to break off in our ass.
Depends on the reason.
Im not terribly knowledge able on the subject and open to learning, but it seems in the long run shipping it from SA or Iraq would be more expensive than changing our production methods to refine domestic oil.
I'd guess t would be a temporary bump until they got it re calibrated or what ever it took, then prices should drop.
And pass some law like in California where its illegal to save your rainwater..."Sorry, you cant have that spare sunlight unless you pay a tax."
Its not a financially viable solution.
Real quick. Tell me what happens if the hydrocarbon markets tanks and the light produce coming from shale(which is expensive to produce)is no longer economically viable? Like what happened during the Rona. Serious question.
I think you are letting this American self sufficiency idea, override what is actually financially viable and wise.
I personally agree we should build more Refining capacity in the US. But it is not something that can just be flipped on and off like a light switch. And you must consider market fluctuation. If you have some ace up your sleeve knowledge, the industry would pay you well to share it.
It's not that our oil industry hasn't figured this out.
They are driven by short term greed and don't give a fuck.
They are driven by short term greed and don't give a fuck.
Our country and entire industries being ran by MBAs who have to demonstrate to shareholders perpetual profit, quarter after quarter, leads to companies cannibalizing themselves eventually.
Just like what's happening at Boeing - and many other big corporations in the US.
Beyond that, the US is currently going down the same path as every other failed empire - over stretching itself militarily around the globe, fighting needless wars and taking on massive debt to do so.
As someone who used to work for a "super major" oil company, I can confirm.
The same shit that's caused Boeing to be a hollow shell of its former self is happening to the major oil companies.
Keeping production costs down on building refineries would be a start. Circa 1975 I signed on as a union painter when they were building a Champlain refinery in Corpus Christi. When they didnt have any work they'd send us up to the top of the tower with a broom and told us "Stay up there out of sight." We were making $7.00 per hour (then beni's on top of that)do stay out of sight and there were a bunch of us. Not a complaint, 7 per hour for snoozing is alright with me but damn...
In Texas we have a law called right to capture. It's for water but maybe I should lobby for it to include sunshine.
Your statement isn't wrong, but you are arguing against your own position here with respect to the impacts upon oil and gas in this instance.
We COULD do that, true. But WILL we?
And how LONG will it take to do that?
Is the ROI for the refiners there? What happens if EV comes back with the next liberal president and congress?
These are critical factors in doing what you are suggesting. Its the time aspect that is important - if a shut down lasts only months it crushes the ROI to retrofit or build. So in the time it would take to do those things and the length of time of the disruption is where the economic impact lies.
