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#101
What I know is that if you press every person who supports the concept of Palestine or Hamas to finally admit it, they all, without exception, agree to say the phrase "from the river to the sea."

What that phrase means is to wipe Israel off the map and eradicate all hebrews. Period, paragraph, end of book. Forever.
 
#103
Ronws said:
What I know is that if you press every person who supports the concept of Palestine or Hamas to finally admit it, they all, without exception, agree to say the phrase "from the river to the sea."

What that phrase means is to wipe Israel off the map and eradicate all hebrews. Period, paragraph, end of book. Forever.
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Which I do not condone either.

But with that said that does not give blanket permission to do the same to the enemy.
 
#105
Fig said:
I find it very interesting that the same news sources that brought you Russia Collusion, Covid Panic, Hunter's Lap Top as disinformation, Joe Biden is sharp as a tack, etc. are the same ones pushing war crimes and starving Pali Tango children. Sometimes you need to look at who your bedfellows are to decide what is and isn't true. In this case it is literally 80% of the left, and a fringe of the right who want to believe every contrived Hamas story that the left wing media so dutifully reports verbatim.

That is no different than the views Jehovah's Witness, or Davidians as main stream Christian thought and theology. According to some Hasidic Sects the Jews are still in diaspora, as God promised, and they have yet to reestablish Jerusalem. I am pretty sure these only exist in New York, as the Hasidic sects IN Israel would beg to differ. In no way do those wierdos views reflect anything but a shunned minority.
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i will say that i believe the Palestinian holocaust story. i will also say that you might be right in saying that it is largely lt wing propaganda driven.
all the violent college protests give your view much merit. TMI to know the truth.
 
#106
Ronws said:
What I know is that if you press every person who supports the concept of Palestine or Hamas to finally admit it, they all, without exception, agree to say the phrase "from the river to the sea."

What that phrase means is to wipe Israel off the map and eradicate all hebrews. Period, paragraph, end of book. Forever.
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It wasnt that way until the Zionists the DnB speaks of stole the land and caused turmoil. Watch the videos, before that they got along. Not perfectly, no one does, but the hate was not near this level.
 
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Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
Yes it was, but God doesn’t limit free will. What happened was made by choices that Jesus Christ knew was going to happen. Jesus didn’t make the betrayal happen. That would’ve restricted free will and made a robot out of Judas. That’s not how things work. That does not negate Jesus fulfilling the old law. Jesus is the new law. Which requires our agency to choose to follow him. Our Free Will is the only thing we have that we can give back to our Heavenly Father.
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No one said he didn’t have free will, but Jesus chose Judas knowing he would betray him helping the plan along. He didn’t choose a random guy who has the possibility of doing it.
 
#108
My whole point of this thread is to make people think. Zionistic Israel, and their behaviors against Gaza is not excusable under any conditions. The Rabianic Talmudic death cult that is behind the Zionist movement is not the same Jews in the Old Testament.

That is what Jesus is saying, “Ye that call yourselves Jews, but are not”

There is the old religion of Babylon that infiltrated the original Jewish faith and corrupted it. That movement still exists today in the Talmudic Zionistic version.
 
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It was just one little harbor... all they did was kill 2403 people....
So killing 5.2 million Japanese and burning 70 cities to cinders while de-housing millions more and leaving the place a starving ruin was self defense, too!

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The made-up Palestinians FAFO'd one too many times. As far as I am concerned, the Heebies can exterminate the "Terroristic Marxist fucks who identify as Palestinians" down to the last one...

That will make sure noone else fucks with Israel. That's how self-defense works!

We Americans are really quite good at it, in fact! Launch a torpedo at our Maddox and we'll kill off 3 million of your side. Fly a plane into our building and kill 2000 of ours and we'll wipe out 350,000 of yours. It's only sad that we lost so many ground troops due to RoE's and stupid target lists. When 'self defense' is making sure you never get attacked again.

Pax Israelius. Pax Americana. Pax Romana. Means that we will defend ourselves by letting you know that if you attack us, we will exterminate your entire race. So leave us the fuck alone.

If the flea-bitten Arab Pieces of Terroristic shit had left the Israeli's alone at their little drum circle, peace fest Kumbya musical extravaganza, instead of flying in on paragliders, shooting dozens and kidnapping dozens more, Gaza and lots of other places would not have been a smoking pile of dusty rubble. And they'd have full bellies. Not that they'd have lives and an economy, because they spend all their fucking aid money on rocket bodies, explosives, digging tunnels and plotting to exterminate Israel... With the solid backing of the American Left and all the Lenin-hugging Eurotrash. Oh and a coterie of "Jews are responsible for every evil" folks... Who at least I respect! Because they are not Stalinist-hugging Marxists... they tend to be American patriots.

Whatever... As far as I am concerned, everything the Red Sea Pedestrians have done in the last almost 2 years IS self-defense. It's pre-emptive self-defense. Because you don't have to defend against a dead, rotting Arab POS... or one too hungry to dig tunnels and make rockets.

Only too bad they can't kill the Palestinians faster. According to PBS (Ha!) about 60,000 Palestinians have died. Bunch of slackers! By 1945, we were killing that many Japanese a night! Get with the program IDF! If you are going to run a Pax Israelius, at least make it worth the bad PR! They're going to blame you whatever you do. So kill off as many as you can while you can.

And then the next time, maybe the goat-fuckers will think twice before attacking again. (Probably not, their religion is so defective that they crave martyrdom and Jihad is all they can do... Whatever. Another reason to kill them off with no remorse and no let-up.)

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So, Carry On Israel. Every one you kill is another one that we won't have to deal with eventually!

Maybe the survivors will decide that maybe, just maybe, they should start making really nice cameras, fuel-efficient cars, wierd tentacle porn, little tape recorders and wipe out our steel industry? Because that's how you gain global respect. Not by slaughtering the big-noses.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled pogrom! Or is tonight the night where folks get together, drink beer, and break all the glass? So hard to keep it all straight...

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
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It was just one little harbor... all they did was kill 2403 people....
So killing 5.2 million Japanese and burning 70 cities to cinders while de-housing millions more and leaving the place a starving ruin was self defense, too!

View attachment 8737891

The made-up Palestinians FAFO'd one too many times. As far as I am concerned, the Heebies can exterminate the "Terroristic Marxist fucks who identify as Palestinians" down to the last one...

That will make sure noone else fucks with Israel. That's how self-defense works!

We Americans are really quite good at it, in fact! Launch a torpedo at our Maddox and we'll kill off 3 million of your side. Fly a plane into our building and kill 2000 of ours and we'll wipe out 350,000 of yours. It's only sad that we lost so many ground troops due to RoE's and stupid target lists. When 'self defense' is making sure you never get attacked again.

Pax Israelius. Pax Americana. Pax Romana. Means that we will defend ourselves by letting you know that if you attack us, we will exterminate your entire race. So leave us the fuck alone.

If the flea-bitten Arab Pieces of Terroristic shit had left the Israeli's alone at their little drum circle, peace fest Kumbya musical extravaganza, instead of flying in on paragliders, shooting dozens and kidnapping dozens more, Gaza and lots of other places would not have been a smoking pile of dusty rubble. And they'd have full bellies. Not that they'd have lives and an economy, because they spend all their fucking aid money on rocket bodies, explosives, digging tunnels and plotting to exterminate Israel... With the solid backing of the American Left and all the Lenin-hugging Eurotrash. Oh and a coterie of "Jews are responsible for every evil" folks... Who at least I respect! Because they are not Stalinist-hugging Marxists... they tend to be American patriots.

Whatever... As far as I am concerned, everything the Red Sea Pedestrians have done in the last almost 2 years IS self-defense. It's pre-emptive self-defense. Because you don't have to defend against a dead, rotting Arab POS... or one too hungry to dig tunnels and make rockets.

Only too bad they can't kill the Palestinians faster. According to PBS (Ha!) about 60,000 Palestinians have died. Bunch of slackers! By 1945, we were killing that many Japanese a night! Get with the program IDF! If you are going to run a Pax Israelius, at least make it worth the bad PR! They're going to blame you whatever you do. So kill off as many as you can while you can.

And then the next time, maybe the goat-fuckers will think twice before attacking again. (Probably not, their religion is so defective that they crave martyrdom and Jihad is all they can do... Whatever. Another reason to kill them off with no remorse and no let-up.)

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So, Carry On Israel. Every one you kill is another one that we won't have to deal with eventually!

Maybe the survivors will decide that maybe, just maybe, they should start making really nice cameras, fuel-efficient cars, wierd tentacle porn, little tape recorders and wipe out our steel industry? Because that's how you gain global respect. Not by slaughtering the big-noses.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled pogrom! Or is tonight the night where folks get together, drink beer, and break all the glass? So hard to keep it all straight...

Sirhr
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We are well aware of your support of the Zionists. Thank you for letting us know you support genocide.
 
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akmike47 said:
ah yes, Detroit
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Tokyo! They should celebrate Curtis LeMay day every March 10th... biggest free urban renewal project in global history!

Didn't cost Japanese taxpayers a dime to get rid of all those shoddy paper buildings, not to mention the sick, weak and slow folks who couldn't get out of the way.

They started it...

Sirhr
 
#119
Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
We are well aware of your support of the Zionists. Thank you for letting us know you support genocide.
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I just find it odd people jump on the band wagon for certain “genocides” and you don’t hear anything about others. Also it’s hard to feel bad for the people who actively preach the joys of genocide on non-members of their religion.

I’m fairly sure the end time prophecy of will or won’t you denounce God will be at the hands of Muslims, they are already practicing in several parts of the world
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Tokyo! They should celebrate Curtis LeMay day every March 10th... biggest free urban renewal project in global history!

Didn't cost Japanese taxpayers a dime to get rid of all those shoddy paper buildings, not to mention the sick, weak and slow folks who couldn't get out of the way.

They started it...

Sirhr
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I know, was a joke lol
 
#121
Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
We are well aware of your support of the Zionists. Thank you for letting us know you support genocide.
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It's not genocide when they are engaged in a war they didn't start... It's war.

And the fastest way to get it over with is to kill the other side until they decide to stop. Ideally, on a permanent basis.

Sirhr
 
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Maggot said:
It wasnt that way until the Zionists the DnB speaks of stole the land and caused turmoil. Watch the videos, before that they got along. Not perfectly, no one does, but the hate was not near this level.
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Fucking duh. Yassir Arafat, winner of The Nobel Peace Prize and leader of the Canaanites for most of my life, turned them into an islamofascist death cult. They exist to kill Jews and die, period.
 
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Fig said:
Fucking duh. Yassir Arafat, winner of The Nobel Peace Prize and leader of the Canaanites for most of my life, turned them into an islamofascist death cult. They exist to kill Jews and die, period.
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Which happened after, and caused by, the stealing of the land by the Zionists. If someone stole your home you'd be pissed too, now wouldnt you.
 
#124
sirhrmechanic said:
It's not genocide when they are engaged in a war they didn't start... It's war.

And the fastest way to get it over with is to kill the other side until they decide to stop. Ideally, on a permanent basis.

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They did start it...when they stole the land.

Period.

Fuck the Balfour Agreement and God didnt give it to them. They just took it because they could. What would you do if the state took your pretty little farm?
 
#126
Maggot said:
They did start it...when they stole the land.

Period.

Fuck the Balfour Agreement and God didnt give it to them. They just took it because they could. What would you do if the state took your pretty little farm?
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“Stole the land” do you even know where both groups come from? The land was stolen from the Jews by the Babylonians. Let’s pretend the Babylonian exile didn’t exist.

“I don’t know the difference between free will and fallible, or history”

I wouldn’t call myself pro Israel history is just history.

Since you have such deep seated feelings about stolen land you live/lived in Oklahoma right, did you donate that back to the previous owners by chance?
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#127
See, this thread is exactly why the argument over the Middle East won't be settled.

Because there is too much rancor, conspiracy theory, propaganda, personal belief... etc. etc. etc...

So one side will just have to kill the other off.

Fortunately, this place is filled with generally reasonable people who will argue tooth and nail, but still be willing to sit down and have a beer at the end of the day and find something in common to laugh about.

Not happening in the ME. So at this point, let them settle it the only way they know how. And we'll buy oil from whoever's left.

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
View attachment 8737888

It was just one little harbor... all they did was kill 2403 people....
So killing 5.2 million Japanese and burning 70 cities to cinders while de-housing millions more and leaving the place a starving ruin was self defense, too!

View attachment 8737891

The made-up Palestinians FAFO'd one too many times. As far as I am concerned, the Heebies can exterminate the "Terroristic Marxist fucks who identify as Palestinians" down to the last one...

That will make sure noone else fucks with Israel. That's how self-defense works!

We Americans are really quite good at it, in fact! Launch a torpedo at our Maddox and we'll kill off 3 million of your side. Fly a plane into our building and kill 2000 of ours and we'll wipe out 350,000 of yours. It's only sad that we lost so many ground troops due to RoE's and stupid target lists. When 'self defense' is making sure you never get attacked again.

Pax Israelius. Pax Americana. Pax Romana. Means that we will defend ourselves by letting you know that if you attack us, we will exterminate your entire race. So leave us the fuck alone.

If the flea-bitten Arab Pieces of Terroristic shit had left the Israeli's alone at their little drum circle, peace fest Kumbya musical extravaganza, instead of flying in on paragliders, shooting dozens and kidnapping dozens more, Gaza and lots of other places would not have been a smoking pile of dusty rubble. And they'd have full bellies. Not that they'd have lives and an economy, because they spend all their fucking aid money on rocket bodies, explosives, digging tunnels and plotting to exterminate Israel... With the solid backing of the American Left and all the Lenin-hugging Eurotrash. Oh and a coterie of "Jews are responsible for every evil" folks... Who at least I respect! Because they are not Stalinist-hugging Marxists... they tend to be American patriots.

Whatever... As far as I am concerned, everything the Red Sea Pedestrians have done in the last almost 2 years IS self-defense. It's pre-emptive self-defense. Because you don't have to defend against a dead, rotting Arab POS... or one too hungry to dig tunnels and make rockets.

Only too bad they can't kill the Palestinians faster. According to PBS (Ha!) about 60,000 Palestinians have died. Bunch of slackers! By 1945, we were killing that many Japanese a night! Get with the program IDF! If you are going to run a Pax Israelius, at least make it worth the bad PR! They're going to blame you whatever you do. So kill off as many as you can while you can.

And then the next time, maybe the goat-fuckers will think twice before attacking again. (Probably not, their religion is so defective that they crave martyrdom and Jihad is all they can do... Whatever. Another reason to kill them off with no remorse and no let-up.)

View attachment 8737904

So, Carry On Israel. Every one you kill is another one that we won't have to deal with eventually!

Maybe the survivors will decide that maybe, just maybe, they should start making really nice cameras, fuel-efficient cars, wierd tentacle porn, little tape recorders and wipe out our steel industry? Because that's how you gain global respect. Not by slaughtering the big-noses.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled pogrom! Or is tonight the night where folks get together, drink beer, and break all the glass? So hard to keep it all straight...

Sirhr
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that's plain enough. it was only 34 lives. why didn't we level Tel Aviv in '67? we killed those mils of VNs over 0 US deaths so maybe we should have done all 7 mil in Israel? OK. my question is why are the Israelis made the center of your world? what is there about Israel that we should care about to tune of the billions,probably trillions we have spent on them. why we have is obvious. they control most of our gov. their willingness to sacrifice this country for their own benefit is understandable. why would any American think that is desirable? why are we wasting time,lives and treasure to advance the greater Israel agenda? where is America 1st? it's not in the current or any prev admin that i can see.
if the Jews exterminate Gaza,who cares? that is on them and really not +/- to our nat'l interest. same goes for Israel getting wiped out by the goat fuckers. where is our loss? we have no need to finance either or risk US personnel for anything in ME. they can keep themselves clear to sell us oil.
but,but,but they are people of the book. we just have to protect them because,because,because.
we need to get a handle on the Muslims in this country and the wets and the Amish. don't need to save the Jews or the Ukrainians. your talk about exterminating style warfare could likely apply in our borders. that is where the danger to our world is.
 
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akmike47 said:
I just find it odd people jump on the band wagon for certain “genocides” and you don’t hear anything about others. Also it’s hard to feel bad for the people who actively preach the joys of genocide on non-members of their religion.

I’m fairly sure the end time prophecy of will or won’t you denounce God will be at the hands of Muslims, they are already practicing in several parts of the world
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And that is just as evil as what the Zionists are doing.
 
#133
mosin46 said:
that's plain enough. it was only 34 lives. why didn't we level Tel Aviv in '67? we killed those mils of VNs over 0 US deaths so maybe we should have done all 7 mil in Israel? OK. my question is why are the Israelis made the center of your world? what is there about Israel that we should care about to tune of the billions,probably trillions we have spent on them. why we have is obvious. they control most of our gov. their willingness to sacrifice this country for their own benefit is understandable. why would any American think that is desirable? why are we wasting time,lives and treasure to advance the greater Israel agenda? where is America 1st? it's not in the current or any prev admin that i can see.
if the Jews exterminate Gaza,who cares? that is on them and really not +/- to our nat'l interest. same goes for Israel getting wiped out by the goat fuckers. where is our loss? we have no need to finance either or risk US personnel for anything in ME. they can keep themselves clear to sell us oil.
but,but,but they are people of the book. we just have to protect them because,because,because.
we need to get a handle on the Muslims in this country and the wets and the Amish. don't need to save the Jews or the Ukrainians. your talk about exterminating style warfare could likely apply in our borders. that is where the danger to our world is.
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I’m tired of Americans sacrificing lives and money for the insane Zionists and the bankers.
 
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Fucking duh. Yassir Arafat, winner of The Nobel Peace Prize and leader of the Canaanites for most of my life, turned them into an islamofascist death cult. They exist to kill Jews and die, period.
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That is just as bad. Why is that hard to understand? They both suck. Just stop sending my taxes and American soldiers to die for either side.

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mosin46 said:
that's plain enough. it was only 34 lives. why didn't we level Tel Aviv in '67? we killed those mils of VNs over 0 US deaths so maybe we should have done all 7 mil in Israel? OK. my question is why are the Israelis made the center of your world? what is there about Israel that we should care about to tune of the billions,probably trillions we have spent on them. why we have is obvious. they control most of our gov. their willingness to sacrifice this country for their own benefit is understandable. why would any American think that is desirable? why are we wasting time,lives and treasure to advance the greater Israel agenda? where is America 1st? it's not in the current or any prev admin that i can see.
if the Jews exterminate Gaza,who cares? that is on them and really not +/- to our nat'l interest. same goes for Israel getting wiped out by the goat fuckers. where is our loss? we have no need to finance either or risk US personnel for anything in ME. they can keep themselves clear to sell us oil.
but,but,but they are people of the book. we just have to protect them because,because,because.
we need to get a handle on the Muslims in this country and the wets and the Amish. don't need to save the Jews or the Ukrainians. your talk about exterminating style warfare could likely apply in our borders. that is where the danger to our world is.
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I can only find 3 possible reasons.

1-A mis understanding of the Bible

2-Political manuvering

3-They have nuc's planted in our cities.

None of the above are acceptable.
 
#138
Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
That is just as bad. Why is that hard to understand? They both suck. Just stop sending my taxes and American soldiers to die for either side.

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Taxes, yeh.

But shit we lose more people to training accidents than actual combat.

Thing is we(USA) are a global power, so if you can align with strong regional powers... Then you just became stronger. Like it or not our alignment with Israel is a benefit, not a drag.

If not then we will lose what took nearly 250 years to build. Personally I like living off the fat of the land, not the scraps.
 
#139
djarecke said:
I understand if you are vehemently against Israel, but the notion that someone else killed our Savior is a misdirection of prophecy, Scripture, and even the words of Jesus Himself. Isaiah, Daniel, Revelation and many other prophecies speak of a Lamb that will be slain even before "the foundation of the world" in order to forgive the sin of all mankind. This intended sacrifice is not a thwarting of God's plan, but rather the fulfillment of it.

So, it can be truly said that neither the Jews nor the Romans killed Jesus. I did. MY sin. And the same could be said of every man and woman since Adam.

So, the whole point of being a Christian is forgiveness despite being treated unfairly; to forgive and even bless those who are our enemies, as Christ did when we were His enemy.
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^^^THIS^^^
 
#140
sirhrmechanic said:
See, this thread is exactly why the argument over the Middle East won't be settled.

Because there is too much rancor, conspiracy theory, propaganda, personal belief... etc. etc. etc...

So one side will just have to kill the other off.

Fortunately, this place is filled with generally reasonable people who will argue tooth and nail, but still be willing to sit down and have a beer at the end of the day and find something in common to laugh about.

Not happening in the ME. So at this point, let them settle it the only way they know how. And we'll buy oil from whoever's left.

Sirhr
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Better kill off the survivor too. You know what they're capable of.
 
#143
mosin46 said:
that's plain enough. it was only 34 lives. why didn't we level Tel Aviv in '67? we killed those mils of VNs over 0 US deaths so maybe we should have done all 7 mil in Israel? OK. my question is why are the Israelis made the center of your world? what is there about Israel that we should care about to tune of the billions,probably trillions we have spent on them. why we have is obvious. they control most of our gov. their willingness to sacrifice this country for their own benefit is understandable. why would any American think that is desirable? why are we wasting time,lives and treasure to advance the greater Israel agenda? where is America 1st? it's not in the current or any prev admin that i can see.
if the Jews exterminate Gaza,who cares? that is on them and really not +/- to our nat'l interest. same goes for Israel getting wiped out by the goat fuckers. where is our loss? we have no need to finance either or risk US personnel for anything in ME. they can keep themselves clear to sell us oil.
but,but,but they are people of the book. we just have to protect them because,because,because.
we need to get a handle on the Muslims in this country and the wets and the Amish. don't need to save the Jews or the Ukrainians. your talk about exterminating style warfare could likely apply in our borders. that is where the danger to our world is.
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They're not the center of my world.

But I have world view that people should be able to live their lives without getting attacked. Whether it's by a mugger in the street; an off-the-rails government agency; a nation state; or a non-nation-state.

And if attacked, the response should be as violent and massive as possible until the 'attacker' is either eliminated or surrenders utterly.

Attacking Israel after they shot up our ship? Sure... if they had not apologized and been sincere about it.

Last time I looked, I didn't see the Palestinians apologizing for attacking people (including Americans) for decades. Instead they double down and we're all supposed to swim in rivers of their own blood.

The center of my world? The American Constitution. The Bill of Rights. Our National History and future. My friends, neighboorhood, state, region and nation (in whatever order... ) The USCA (which is flawed as hell, but still the best mess anyone has.) Freedom of speech (not just including, but especially speech I don't like). Freedom of expression. Freedom to be who you are... until it impinges on my freedom.

Israelis? I could give a shit. Same with Catholics, Muzzies, Buddhists, those orange robe people in airports, the Magic Underware people, the ones who put on sneakers and wait for alien abduction? Hey, you be you. Same with whatever color skin you have, whether you have tits or where you stick little Elvis. I give a shit about ideas. And there are some ideas that are just bad... like terrorism. And Communism (which is utterly against human nature).

Kind of a Conundrum when, historically, the nation I 'do' love and is the center of my beliefs was created by bloody revolution and plenty of terrorism. You know, dumping tea, tarring and feathering tax collectors and loyalists, Indian raids, Ambushes, burning your neighbors in the Carolinas, Swamp Fox guerilla stuff. BUT... that was also fought as a war. Armies, battles, maneuver, etc. It wasn't all back-street stabbing. We got it over with. And the American Way of War proved superior to the British Way of War, resulting in clear cut victories starting in Saratoga and culminating at Cowpens and at Yorktown in 1781. But, hey, Americans also spent a lot of time appealing to the King for a non-kinetic Amexit from control by a far away parliament as well. So it's not like we didn't try to do it peacefully for years.

Meh... I'll leave you guys to this thread! As the Guy who never was known as Bender said "We are aware of your support for the Zionists." Yeah, well... maybe. I support the right of the citizens of Israel not to be rocketed in their beds. As for Zionism? It's as pathetic a worldview as most of the other 'ism's' So no, I don't support it. That doesn't mean I want the little hat people to have to endure endless attacks from a bunch of cowardly so-called Palestinians... who made up their little name in the '60's as part of the Arab Nationalist and Pan-Arab movements... which were largely Marxist in origin. Which is why all the American Left just loves those little Pizza-Hut Table-cloth-wearing "Palestinians."

And there are hundreds of thousands of square miles of 'empty' Middle East. That could be turned into a paradise for the so-called Palestinians. Why won't any other country in the region carve out a couple of hundred square miles... put in an infrastructure... and give the so-called Palestinians a homeland? Why? Because they know these so-called Palestinians are pieces of shit... All the way back to Yassir. But, hey, give them a homeland, says, I! I'd even be ok with the US doing a bunch of the work and, yes, even funding some of it! Because there are tons of so-called Palestinians who are not scumbag terrorists. But who support them either directly or by inaction. But they do deserve a chance to go back to do great things like invent the zero and coffee and algebra. Think of what they could accomplish if they put the same effort into science, economics, agriculture, tourism, technology, manufacturing... that they put into digging tunnels and screaming "Kill the Infidels." Sad really.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
They're not the center of my world.

But I have world view that people should be able to live their lives without getting attacked. Whether it's by a mugger in the street; an off-the-rails government agency; a nation state; or a non-nation-state.

And if attacked, the response should be as violent and massive as possible until the 'attacker' is either eliminated or surrenders utterly.

Attacking Israel after they shot up our ship? Sure... if they had not apologized and been sincere about it.

Last time I looked, I didn't see the Palestinians apologizing for attacking people (including Americans) for decades. Instead they double down and we're all supposed to swim in rivers of their own blood.

The center of my world? The American Constitution. The Bill of Rights. Our National History and future. My friends, neighboorhood, state, region and nation (in whatever order... ) The USCA (which is flawed as hell, but still the best mess anyone has.) Freedom of speech (not just including, but especially speech I don't like). Freedom of expression. Freedom to be who you are... until it impinges on my freedom.

Israelis? I could give a shit. Same with Catholics, Muzzies, Buddhists, those orange robe people in airports, the Magic Underware people, the ones who put on sneakers and wait for alien abduction? Hey, you be you. Same with whatever color skin you have, whether you have tits or where you stick little Elvis. I give a shit about ideas. And there are some ideas that are just bad... like terrorism. And Communism (which is utterly against human nature).

Kind of a Conundrum when, historically, the nation I 'do' love and is the center of my beliefs was created by bloody revolution and plenty of terrorism. You know, dumping tea, tarring and feathering tax collectors and loyalists, Indian raids, Ambushes, burning your neighbors in the Carolinas, Swamp Fox guerilla stuff. BUT... that was also fought as a war. Armies, battles, maneuver, etc. It wasn't all back-street stabbing. We got it over with. And the American Way of War proved superior to the British Way of War, resulting in clear cut victories starting in Saratoga and culminating at Cowpens and at Yorktown in 1781. But, hey, Americans also spent a lot of time appealing to the King for a non-kinetic Amexit from control by a far away parliament as well. So it's not like we didn't try to do it peacefully for years.

Meh... I'll leave you guys to this thread! As the Guy who never was known as Bender said "We are aware of your support for the Zionists." Yeah, well... maybe. I support the right of the citizens of Israel not to be rocketed in their beds. As for Zionism? It's as pathetic a worldview as most of the other 'ism's' So no, I don't support it. That doesn't mean I want the little hat people to have to endure endless attacks from a bunch of cowardly so-called Palestinians... who made up their little name in the '60's as part of the Arab Nationalist and Pan-Arab movements... which were largely Marxist in origin. Which is why all the American Left just loves those little Pizza-Hut Table-cloth-wearing "Palestinians."

And there are hundreds of thousands of square miles of 'empty' Middle East. That could be turned into a paradise for the so-called Palestinians. Why won't any other country in the region carve out a couple of hundred square miles... put in an infrastructure... and give the so-called Palestinians a homeland? Why? Because they know these so-called Palestinians are pieces of shit... All the way back to Yassir. But, hey, give them a homeland, says, I! I'd even be ok with the US doing a bunch of the work and, yes, even funding some of it! Because there are tons of so-called Palestinians who are not scumbag terrorists. But who support them either directly or by inaction. But they do deserve a chance to go back to do great things like invent the zero and coffee and algebra. Think of what they could accomplish if they put the same effort into science, economics, agriculture, tourism, technology, manufacturing... that they put into digging tunnels and screaming "Kill the Infidels." Sad really.

Cheers,

Sirhr
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Calm down Luckyduck
 
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fair enough. clear enough. i simply don't care what they "endure". Israelis have a "right" to peaceful existence. truth is that has never been their method of action. true for us too since 1770s. that's fine too. it is what it is. just no excuse to spend all the effort and treasure to help them conquer the ME,which is their plan. good on them if they can. good on Putin if he takes all of Ukraine. so what? we can do biz either way. we don't have any need to finance any of it with $s or blood.
 
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akmike47 said:
Didn’t some Jews also come from the canaanites?
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Not till after God told the Jews what to do, and they disobeyed. It is right there, and unambiguous. It is ALL, in fact, right there, and the older I get and the more I study the more ironic it is and more true it all gets. A couple of thousand years later, after many prophesies are fulfilled, they are still suffering God's wrath exactly as it is written.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians

..."the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether". Not saying I understand everything, because no man does. We move through time, and God outside of that.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
And there are hundreds of thousands of square miles of 'empty' Middle East. That could be turned into a paradise for the so-called Palestinians. Why won't any other country in the region carve out a couple of hundred square miles... put in an infrastructure... and give the so-called Palestinians a homeland? Why? Because they know these so-called Palestinians are pieces of shit... All the way back to Yassir. But, hey, give them a homeland, says, I! I'd even be ok with the US doing a bunch of the work and, yes, even funding some of it! Because there are tons of so-called Palestinians who are not scumbag terrorists. But who support them either directly or by inaction. But they do deserve a chance to go back to do great things like invent the zero and coffee and algebra. Think of what they could accomplish if they put the same effort into science, economics, agriculture, tourism, technology, manufacturing... that they put into digging tunnels and screaming "Kill the Infidels." Sad really.

Cheers,

Sirhr
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yup. jordan has been keeping them is "refugee" camps for what, 70 years? they know.

started out with ~750,000 refugees total in 1950 (spread around). there are now close to 6 million.
genocide? hardly.
 
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Maggot said:
Which happened after, and caused by, the stealing of the land by the Zionists. If someone stole your home you'd be pissed too, now wouldnt you.
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Since you are a "Christ Follower" and know so much that you have chosen the side of the Canaanites, one that happens to be diametrically opposed to clear and unambiguous teaching of The Bible, you should read "Innocents Abroad". It's an interesting series of observations in a travelog about the Levant and it's inhabitants by one Samuel Clemens, pen name Mark Twain. If you want an honest assessment of who was there are in what conditions they lived before the arrival of the diaspora there is no better American to turn to for the truth. But, again, all this has been sitting right there in the most prolific book on the planet for a couple of thousand years... Maybe it's all just some massive coincidence. If the Jews had obeyed God they would not have been scattered, but then there would be no "Palestinians" either.
 
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Fig said:
Not till after God told the Jews what to do, and they disobeyed. It is right there, and unambiguous. It is ALL, in fact, right there, and the older I get and the more I study the more ironic it is and more true it all gets. A couple of thousand years later, after many prophesies are fulfilled, they are still suffering God's wrath exactly as it is written.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians

..."the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether". Not saying I understand everything, because no man does. We move through time, and God outside of that.
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“most Arab and Jewish groups in the region owe more than half of their DNA to Canaanites”
 
#150
Fig said:
The correct response to the question of who killed Jesus is "we did" or "I did". Any other answer means you don't understand the problem, and why God sacrificed his only son for us.

Is the Old Testament about "us", or only about Jews? Not coincidence that Jesus was a Jew from the line of David.
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I was there when they crucified my Lord
I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword
I threw the dice when they pierced his side
But I've seen love conquer the great divide
 
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