Re: John Noveske passed away
We will truely miss you John. It was a pleasure to have met you! Rest in peace brother.
We will truely miss you John. It was a pleasure to have met you! Rest in peace brother.
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Re: John Noveske passed away
MISS YOU JOHN. RIP
MISS YOU JOHN. RIP
Re: John Noveske passed away
It's amazing how close to home this hits even for people who have never met the guy. Goes to show how highly respected he is. R.I.P. Mr. Noveske
It's amazing how close to home this hits even for people who have never met the guy. Goes to show how highly respected he is. R.I.P. Mr. Noveske
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP John.
RIP John.
Re: John Noveske passed away
Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine.
Et lux perpetua luceat ei.
Requiescat in pace.
Amen.
Anima ejus et animum omnium fidelium defunctorum per misericordiam Dei requiescant in pace.
Amen.
Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine.
Et lux perpetua luceat ei.
Requiescat in pace.
Amen.
Anima ejus et animum omnium fidelium defunctorum per misericordiam Dei requiescant in pace.
Amen.
Re: John Noveske passed away
So SAD...
So SAD...
Re: John Noveske passed away
Very sad, RIP.
Very sad, RIP.
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP, See you on the high ground
RIP, See you on the high ground
Re: John Noveske passed away
What a loss to everyone.
What a loss to everyone.
Re: John Noveske passed away
It was about 8 or 9 years ago, my first AR10 build, I had no barrel wrench. John invited me to his home, & shop nearby, in what I believe was his grandmother's shed. The deal was, I bring the micro brew, & he would show me how to swap a stock handguard with a free float model. When we were done, I met his wife & son, and he showed me his new shop, under construction behind his home.
Sitting in his living room, we briefly swapped some significant life experiences, and finished the brew. At that time, and in that moment, I saw before me not just a machinist, but a man driven to achieve perfection in everything he applied himself to. There was no ego or insecurity about him that I could see, and he told me that he believed we were living in heaven already, here.
Those words are with me to this day, and I am honored to have met him. It was more than hospitality, it was as if, as a guest, I was his brother. It was genuine, and I felt it.
Go with God brother, your strength & vision will be missed, but we are stronger, because of you.
It was about 8 or 9 years ago, my first AR10 build, I had no barrel wrench. John invited me to his home, & shop nearby, in what I believe was his grandmother's shed. The deal was, I bring the micro brew, & he would show me how to swap a stock handguard with a free float model. When we were done, I met his wife & son, and he showed me his new shop, under construction behind his home.
Sitting in his living room, we briefly swapped some significant life experiences, and finished the brew. At that time, and in that moment, I saw before me not just a machinist, but a man driven to achieve perfection in everything he applied himself to. There was no ego or insecurity about him that I could see, and he told me that he believed we were living in heaven already, here.
Those words are with me to this day, and I am honored to have met him. It was more than hospitality, it was as if, as a guest, I was his brother. It was genuine, and I felt it.
Go with God brother, your strength & vision will be missed, but we are stronger, because of you.
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP John
RIP John
Re: John Noveske passed away
My deepest condolences. RIP.
My deepest condolences. RIP.
Re: John Noveske passed away
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipe10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, a tragedy for anyone to go that young! Live each day my friends, live each day to the fullest. </div></div>
and wear your seat belt....sad day
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipe10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, a tragedy for anyone to go that young! Live each day my friends, live each day to the fullest. </div></div>
and wear your seat belt....sad day
Re: John Noveske passed away
I salute you John.
You made rifles better, you helped more than you'll ever know, and your achievements will be seen on many rifles, both civilian and military for years to come.
God Speed to that big gun range in the sky.
I salute you John.
You made rifles better, you helped more than you'll ever know, and your achievements will be seen on many rifles, both civilian and military for years to come.
God Speed to that big gun range in the sky.
Re: John Noveske passed away
What a tragedy.
What a tragedy.
Re: John Noveske passed away
Just saw this now. Wow, horrible news. I hope that NRW, LLC continues on as a tribute to him. I'm the proud owner of two of his products and will be holding on to them as long as I own firearms.
There is a memorial site up: http://www.noveskememorial.com/donate/
In case anyone wants to help John's kids out a little bit. (Hope this is OK to post link to this site; I'm not affiliated in anyway, just a happy Noveske customer).
Just saw this now. Wow, horrible news. I hope that NRW, LLC continues on as a tribute to him. I'm the proud owner of two of his products and will be holding on to them as long as I own firearms.
There is a memorial site up: http://www.noveskememorial.com/donate/
In case anyone wants to help John's kids out a little bit. (Hope this is OK to post link to this site; I'm not affiliated in anyway, just a happy Noveske customer).
Re: John Noveske passed away
Got my shipping notice on the goodies i ordered, can't hardly wait. John i wish you the best in your new life and we will look out for your Family.
Got my shipping notice on the goodies i ordered, can't hardly wait. John i wish you the best in your new life and we will look out for your Family.
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP
RIP
Re: John Noveske passed away
So sad ,,,far too young,,,RIP
So sad ,,,far too young,,,RIP
Re: John Noveske passed away
Mike Adams
Natural News
Jan 10, 2013
What you are about to read is astonishing. I’m not even sure what’s the right conclusion to draw from it. But here’s what we know so far:
John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it’s a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.
According to the Outdoor Wire, his car “traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected.”
But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, “What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?”
That was the last post he ever made. (Full text below.)
Mysterious death during gun control debate raises questions
John Noveske wasn’t the first prominent gun rights supporter to be killed in the last few days. Keith Ratliff, the creator of a super-popular YouTube channel featuring videos of exotic weapons, was also recently found dead.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
The Daily Mail reports that Ratliff was “discovered on a rural road in Carnesville, Georgia. Ratliff had a single gunshot wound the head and police are treating his death as a homicide.”
Someone murdered Ratliff, in other words, and it had to be someone with the ability to get close enough to Ratliff to take him out without warning.
Beyond these two shootings, the widely-discredited CNN journalist Piers Morgan, wanted for questioning in Britain’s Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal, invited guests onto his show who threatened Alex Jones’ children and laughed about the idea of Piers Morgan shooting Alex Jones with an AR-15.
That astonishing video interview is available at:
www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jon…
Steve Quayle, creator of SteveQuayle.com, says “the red list is on!” This refers to the so-called “red list” — a secret kill list of Americans authorized by Obama and designed to be invoked immediately before an attempted radical leftist takeover of the nation. In support of this theory, Obama himself actually signed into law the NDAA which authorizes secret assassinations of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.
Instead of the red list being “conspiracy theory,” it appears to be a key component of Obama’s domestic policy.
Beyond coincidence: Pieces of the puzzle rapidly coming together
Sure, a car crash involving John Noveske could be a coincidence. It could also be a coincidence that no video footage has been released from Sandy Hook showing Adam Lanza carrying any rifle whatsoever.
It might also be a coincidence that Dianne Feinstein just happened to have her detailed gun confiscation bill ready to release immediately following the Sandy Hook shooting.
It might also be a total coincidence that according to Google.com, the United Way Sandy Hook donation support page was created on December 11, 2012 — a full three days before the shooting took place.
It could also be a total coincidence that NBC News reported Adam Lanza’s AR-15 rifle was left in his car and was never used in the shooting at all.
I suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook shooting.
And it could be coincidence that Facebook suspended or shut down the accounts of hundreds of prominent people who advocated the Second Amendment, including our account here at Natural News.
And finally, it could be a total coincidence that police radio recordings seem to indicate there were multiple shooters involved in Sandy Hook.
But what are the odds of ALL of these coincidences existing simultaneously? Those odds are virtually zero.
Something’s fishy with all this. It’s becoming increasingly apparent that an order has come down from the very top to destroy, silence, threaten or execute true American patriots. Steve Quayle has long predicted this would be the very first step before foreign troops are unleashed on American soil to take over the country and deliver it, just as Obama has always planned, into the hands of the globalist crime syndicate.
It all sounds outrageous, I admit, and I’m not even sure what to believe myself. But it’s becoming more difficult by the day to deny actual events happening right before our eyes. Believe what you will, but don’t be surprised if people like Steve Quayle and Alex Jones were right all along. If we see any more mysterious deaths of prominent gun advocates, it’s going to raise huge red flags across the patriot community.
Read John Noveske’s last Facebook post
This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.
Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven’t heard about being on drugs of some kind.
This article was posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 at 6:05 am
Mike Adams
Natural News
Jan 10, 2013
What you are about to read is astonishing. I’m not even sure what’s the right conclusion to draw from it. But here’s what we know so far:
John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it’s a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.
According to the Outdoor Wire, his car “traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected.”
But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, “What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?”
That was the last post he ever made. (Full text below.)
Mysterious death during gun control debate raises questions
John Noveske wasn’t the first prominent gun rights supporter to be killed in the last few days. Keith Ratliff, the creator of a super-popular YouTube channel featuring videos of exotic weapons, was also recently found dead.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
The Daily Mail reports that Ratliff was “discovered on a rural road in Carnesville, Georgia. Ratliff had a single gunshot wound the head and police are treating his death as a homicide.”
Someone murdered Ratliff, in other words, and it had to be someone with the ability to get close enough to Ratliff to take him out without warning.
Beyond these two shootings, the widely-discredited CNN journalist Piers Morgan, wanted for questioning in Britain’s Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal, invited guests onto his show who threatened Alex Jones’ children and laughed about the idea of Piers Morgan shooting Alex Jones with an AR-15.
That astonishing video interview is available at:
www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jon…
Steve Quayle, creator of SteveQuayle.com, says “the red list is on!” This refers to the so-called “red list” — a secret kill list of Americans authorized by Obama and designed to be invoked immediately before an attempted radical leftist takeover of the nation. In support of this theory, Obama himself actually signed into law the NDAA which authorizes secret assassinations of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.
Instead of the red list being “conspiracy theory,” it appears to be a key component of Obama’s domestic policy.
Beyond coincidence: Pieces of the puzzle rapidly coming together
Sure, a car crash involving John Noveske could be a coincidence. It could also be a coincidence that no video footage has been released from Sandy Hook showing Adam Lanza carrying any rifle whatsoever.
It might also be a coincidence that Dianne Feinstein just happened to have her detailed gun confiscation bill ready to release immediately following the Sandy Hook shooting.
It might also be a total coincidence that according to Google.com, the United Way Sandy Hook donation support page was created on December 11, 2012 — a full three days before the shooting took place.
It could also be a total coincidence that NBC News reported Adam Lanza’s AR-15 rifle was left in his car and was never used in the shooting at all.
I suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook shooting.
And it could be coincidence that Facebook suspended or shut down the accounts of hundreds of prominent people who advocated the Second Amendment, including our account here at Natural News.
And finally, it could be a total coincidence that police radio recordings seem to indicate there were multiple shooters involved in Sandy Hook.
But what are the odds of ALL of these coincidences existing simultaneously? Those odds are virtually zero.
Something’s fishy with all this. It’s becoming increasingly apparent that an order has come down from the very top to destroy, silence, threaten or execute true American patriots. Steve Quayle has long predicted this would be the very first step before foreign troops are unleashed on American soil to take over the country and deliver it, just as Obama has always planned, into the hands of the globalist crime syndicate.
It all sounds outrageous, I admit, and I’m not even sure what to believe myself. But it’s becoming more difficult by the day to deny actual events happening right before our eyes. Believe what you will, but don’t be surprised if people like Steve Quayle and Alex Jones were right all along. If we see any more mysterious deaths of prominent gun advocates, it’s going to raise huge red flags across the patriot community.
Read John Noveske’s last Facebook post
This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.
Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven’t heard about being on drugs of some kind.
This article was posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 at 6:05 am
Re: John Noveske passed away
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever wrote that article needs punched in the throat. Taking someones tragedy and trying to spin it into a conspiracy theory is no better than the mainstream media... </div></div>
I know that if I died shortly after posting truth, I would want questions asked... regardless if it appeared to be a tragic accident or not. This being said from someone with a VERY similar background and set of opinions as John Noveske.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever wrote that article needs punched in the throat. Taking someones tragedy and trying to spin it into a conspiracy theory is no better than the mainstream media... </div></div>
I know that if I died shortly after posting truth, I would want questions asked... regardless if it appeared to be a tragic accident or not. This being said from someone with a VERY similar background and set of opinions as John Noveske.
Re: John Noveske passed away
Not saying it may/may not be valid but IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John
Not saying it may/may not be valid but IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John
Re: John Noveske passed away
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever wrote that article needs punched in the throat. Taking someones tragedy and trying to spin it into a conspiracy theory is no better than the mainstream media... </div></div>
I know that if I died shortly after posting truth, I would want questions asked... regardless if it appeared to be a tragic accident or not. This being said from someone with a VERY similar background and set of opinions as John Noveske. </div></div>
I've been trying to behave lately so I'll leave it with...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it may/may not be valid buy IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever wrote that article needs punched in the throat. Taking someones tragedy and trying to spin it into a conspiracy theory is no better than the mainstream media... </div></div>
I know that if I died shortly after posting truth, I would want questions asked... regardless if it appeared to be a tragic accident or not. This being said from someone with a VERY similar background and set of opinions as John Noveske. </div></div>
I've been trying to behave lately so I'll leave it with...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it may/may not be valid buy IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John </div></div>
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Re: John Noveske passed away
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it may/may not be valid but IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John </div></div>
John Noveske was a person who wanted to know what was going on around him, to analyze a situation, to make sense of things in order to address issues and make them better.
Condolences have been on-going for nearly a week. I do not think Mr. Noveske would appreciate pushing the details of this situation under the rug, into a corner, or into the Bear Pit. He wanted all to see and have access to truth. Mr. Noveske, as well as I, believe we have several major issues in this country; and his passing/death should give resounding echo to the virtues, ideals, and opinions he stood firm on.
It is very apparent that the issue of psychotropics & mass murder weighed heavy on his mind. THESE are the issues we should be discussing RIGHT NOW. Not sorrow and pity. I firmly believe this is how Mr. Noveske would have us remember him. It is what I would want.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it may/may not be valid but IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John </div></div>
John Noveske was a person who wanted to know what was going on around him, to analyze a situation, to make sense of things in order to address issues and make them better.
Condolences have been on-going for nearly a week. I do not think Mr. Noveske would appreciate pushing the details of this situation under the rug, into a corner, or into the Bear Pit. He wanted all to see and have access to truth. Mr. Noveske, as well as I, believe we have several major issues in this country; and his passing/death should give resounding echo to the virtues, ideals, and opinions he stood firm on.
It is very apparent that the issue of psychotropics & mass murder weighed heavy on his mind. THESE are the issues we should be discussing RIGHT NOW. Not sorrow and pity. I firmly believe this is how Mr. Noveske would have us remember him. It is what I would want.
Re: John Noveske passed away
terrible news. RIP John. (I know he is not, he is turning over just like our forefathers).
I just finished a spr ish build and am proud to say the upper receiver has johns cross on it.
terrible news. RIP John. (I know he is not, he is turning over just like our forefathers).
I just finished a spr ish build and am proud to say the upper receiver has johns cross on it.
Re: John Noveske passed away
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it may/may not be valid but IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John </div></div>
John Noveske was a person who wanted to know what was going on around him, to analyze a situation, to make sense of things in order to address issues and make them better.
Condolences have been on-going for nearly a week. I do not think Mr. Noveske would appreciate pushing the details of this situation under the rug, into a corner, or into the Bear Pit. He wanted all to see and have access to truth. Mr. Noveske, as well as I, believe we have several major issues in this country; and his passing/death should give resounding echo to the virtues, ideals, and opinions he stood firm on.
It is very apparent that the issue of psychotropics & mass murder weighed heavy on his mind. THESE are the issues we should be discussing RIGHT NOW. Not sorrow and pity. I firmly believe this is how Mr. Noveske would have us remember him. It is what I would want. </div></div>
You're trying to insinuate legitimacy of some conspiracy over a facebook post that happened a week earlier. And I HIGHLY doubt he would want someone taking his death and using it to try spin some stupid fucking conspiracy theory that he was somehow killed over it. Do you really think that the type of people who want to cover things up are going to leave the evidence behind whether it be online or anywhere else? It's like you and others are trying to grasp at excuses or even worse your wild fucking imaginations under your tin foil hats for something that was an accident and nothing more. You're acting no better than the media we despise trying to make something out of what's nothing more than a tragedy. Put the fucking tin foil hats away cause you guys are making us look like the paranoid fucking nuts that the media claims we are and you're disrespecting a good man and his family by trying to attach his unfortunate passing to it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This being said from someone with a VERY similar background and set of opinions as John Noveske. </div></div>
And you're nowhere close to Mr. Noveske's stature. You could barely fit in his shadow at this point none the less his shoes, so you can leave the comparison out.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it may/may not be valid but IMHO this thread was for people to know he passed and to convey their condolences. Take the conspiracy theory shit over to the Bear Pit.
RIP, John </div></div>
John Noveske was a person who wanted to know what was going on around him, to analyze a situation, to make sense of things in order to address issues and make them better.
Condolences have been on-going for nearly a week. I do not think Mr. Noveske would appreciate pushing the details of this situation under the rug, into a corner, or into the Bear Pit. He wanted all to see and have access to truth. Mr. Noveske, as well as I, believe we have several major issues in this country; and his passing/death should give resounding echo to the virtues, ideals, and opinions he stood firm on.
It is very apparent that the issue of psychotropics & mass murder weighed heavy on his mind. THESE are the issues we should be discussing RIGHT NOW. Not sorrow and pity. I firmly believe this is how Mr. Noveske would have us remember him. It is what I would want. </div></div>
You're trying to insinuate legitimacy of some conspiracy over a facebook post that happened a week earlier. And I HIGHLY doubt he would want someone taking his death and using it to try spin some stupid fucking conspiracy theory that he was somehow killed over it. Do you really think that the type of people who want to cover things up are going to leave the evidence behind whether it be online or anywhere else? It's like you and others are trying to grasp at excuses or even worse your wild fucking imaginations under your tin foil hats for something that was an accident and nothing more. You're acting no better than the media we despise trying to make something out of what's nothing more than a tragedy. Put the fucking tin foil hats away cause you guys are making us look like the paranoid fucking nuts that the media claims we are and you're disrespecting a good man and his family by trying to attach his unfortunate passing to it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This being said from someone with a VERY similar background and set of opinions as John Noveske. </div></div>
And you're nowhere close to Mr. Noveske's stature. You could barely fit in his shadow at this point none the less his shoes, so you can leave the comparison out.
Re: John Noveske passed away
While this is not about me, nor you, Ive got more in common with Mr. Noveske than anyone who has ever ventured onto this forum. Just to name the most obvious: we are both machinist, both started rifle manufacturing companies at age 26, both have at least 3 firearms related patents and pending, both build very high quality rifles, and both believe in revealing truth. Noveske and I are competitors on the same team.
And you are who the hell?
You are the nut job if you do not believe we are all targets to someone.
While this is not about me, nor you, Ive got more in common with Mr. Noveske than anyone who has ever ventured onto this forum. Just to name the most obvious: we are both machinist, both started rifle manufacturing companies at age 26, both have at least 3 firearms related patents and pending, both build very high quality rifles, and both believe in revealing truth. Noveske and I are competitors on the same team.
And you are who the hell?
You are the nut job if you do not believe we are all targets to someone.
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP, Prayers for your soul John and to your loved ones. May your earthly legacy continue with the fine people and products you built up.
RIP, Prayers for your soul John and to your loved ones. May your earthly legacy continue with the fine people and products you built up.
Re: John Noveske passed away
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While this is not about me, nor you, Ive got more in common with Mr. Noveske than anyone who has ever ventured onto this forum. Just to name the most obvious: we are both machinist, both started rifle manufacturing companies at age 26, both have at least 3 firearms related patents and pending, both build very high quality rifles, and both believe in revealing truth. Noveske and I are competitors on the same team.
And you are who the hell?
You are the nut job if you do not believe we are all targets to someone. </div></div>
Except for John Noveske and his work will be missed by thousands, many of whom never even met the man. You... You can only hope to do so much and so well. Now go sell your paranoia somewhere else and on someone elses name.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fd-defense</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While this is not about me, nor you, Ive got more in common with Mr. Noveske than anyone who has ever ventured onto this forum. Just to name the most obvious: we are both machinist, both started rifle manufacturing companies at age 26, both have at least 3 firearms related patents and pending, both build very high quality rifles, and both believe in revealing truth. Noveske and I are competitors on the same team.
And you are who the hell?
You are the nut job if you do not believe we are all targets to someone. </div></div>
Except for John Noveske and his work will be missed by thousands, many of whom never even met the man. You... You can only hope to do so much and so well. Now go sell your paranoia somewhere else and on someone elses name.
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP . WAY TOO YOUNG .
RIP . WAY TOO YOUNG .
Re: John Noveske passed away
Live each day like its your last !! My dad died at 22 years old riding an Indian Head Motorcycle in 1968 - I never new him .
RIP John Noveske
Live each day like its your last !! My dad died at 22 years old riding an Indian Head Motorcycle in 1968 - I never new him .
RIP John Noveske
Re: John Noveske passed away
Very sad news. May he rest in peace.
Very sad news. May he rest in peace.
Re: John Noveske passed away
RIP John
Also RIP to Aaron Swartz, a online friend to us all. (helped stop SOPA)
RIP John
Also RIP to Aaron Swartz, a online friend to us all. (helped stop SOPA)
Re: John Noveske passed away
Just horrible. What a smart good guy I heard he was. I also heard he was good to our Rangers up that way. Sad
Just horrible. What a smart good guy I heard he was. I also heard he was good to our Rangers up that way. Sad
