Bartlien, Brux, Krieger, Obermyer(how ever it's spelled), Rock.
6mm 8tw. varmint countour.
Just vote for your favorite.
6mm 8tw. varmint countour.
Just vote for your favorite.
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Make "doesnt matter" a vote option
Once you make it a poll
Any of the well known big name barrel makers that people use and talk about on this site are going to do you well.
I think I am a fan of 5R rifling though.
Make "doesnt matter" a vote option
Once you make it a poll
Any of the well known big name barrel makers that people use and talk about on this site are going to do you well.
I think I am a fan of 5R rifling though.
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i'd add broughton to your list. i have been extremely happy with the way they machine, the way they clean and the way they shoot.
i'd add broughton to your list. i have been extremely happy with the way they machine, the way they clean and the way they shoot.
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I believe Bartlein has the most up-to-date machinery with being able to change the twist rate throughout the barrel, but I would put them all at the same level. My favorite though is Rock...because I have one
but you forgot Schneider as well.
I believe Bartlein has the most up-to-date machinery with being able to change the twist rate throughout the barrel, but I would put them all at the same level. My favorite though is Rock...because I have one
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If 9 Chevy's and 1 Ford go to the races what's the odds of the Ford winning?
Much the same in barrels. Any marquee company will do you right. I've yet to see one conclusively outshine another and I've used them all. I tend to split hairs a little and favor the cut rifle barrels just because I like the way they machine. The harder material cuts nicer with my tooling.
Fit it well and they all work great.
C.
If 9 Chevy's and 1 Ford go to the races what's the odds of the Ford winning?
Much the same in barrels. Any marquee company will do you right. I've yet to see one conclusively outshine another and I've used them all. I tend to split hairs a little and favor the cut rifle barrels just because I like the way they machine. The harder material cuts nicer with my tooling.
Fit it well and they all work great.
C.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C. Dixon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I tend to split hairs a little and favor the cut rifle barrels just because I like the way they machine. The harder material cuts nicer with my tooling.
C. </div></div>
that's funny. i swear i could pick out a broughton barrel out of a stack of various makers by the way they machine. i love working with them.
the only drawback i personally see with them is getting a twist rate in other than a whole number. i know others are leery about the button rifling but i haven't had a reason to be scared off by that yet.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C. Dixon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I tend to split hairs a little and favor the cut rifle barrels just because I like the way they machine. The harder material cuts nicer with my tooling.
C. </div></div>
that's funny. i swear i could pick out a broughton barrel out of a stack of various makers by the way they machine. i love working with them.
the only drawback i personally see with them is getting a twist rate in other than a whole number. i know others are leery about the button rifling but i haven't had a reason to be scared off by that yet.
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<span style="font-weight: bold">"The harder material cuts nicer with <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">my</span></span> tooling."</span>
One must remember that I typically thread/chamber at RPM/feedrates far, far greater than 99.9% of other gun plumbers.
Not bragging, just saying. From my chair the harder stainless typically found in cut barrels gives me a finish I like more than the buttoned ones do. Not all, but most.
<span style="font-weight: bold">"The harder material cuts nicer with <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">my</span></span> tooling."</span>
One must remember that I typically thread/chamber at RPM/feedrates far, far greater than 99.9% of other gun plumbers.
Not bragging, just saying. From my chair the harder stainless typically found in cut barrels gives me a finish I like more than the buttoned ones do. Not all, but most.
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Broughton and Bart fan here.
Have a brand new Broughton 6mm 8tw chambered in 6br that shoots extremely well.
I'll also second what 300sniper said. I am very happy with the way the Broughton's clean.
Broughton and Bart fan here.
Have a brand new Broughton 6mm 8tw chambered in 6br that shoots extremely well.
I'll also second what 300sniper said. I am very happy with the way the Broughton's clean.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C. Dixon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">"The harder material cuts nicer with <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">my</span></span> tooling."</span>
One must remember that I typically thread/chamber at RPM/feedrates far, far greater than 99.9% of other gun plumbers.
Not bragging, just saying. From my chair the harder stainless typically found in cut barrels gives me a finish I like more than the buttoned ones do. Not all, but most. </div></div>
i was not doubting you. i just thought that its funny that we can tell the differences between barrel manufactures by the way they machine and are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C. Dixon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">"The harder material cuts nicer with <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">my</span></span> tooling."</span>
One must remember that I typically thread/chamber at RPM/feedrates far, far greater than 99.9% of other gun plumbers.
Not bragging, just saying. From my chair the harder stainless typically found in cut barrels gives me a finish I like more than the buttoned ones do. Not all, but most. </div></div>
i was not doubting you. i just thought that its funny that we can tell the differences between barrel manufactures by the way they machine and are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZPrecision</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Make "doesnt matter" a vote option
Once you make it a poll
Any of the well known big name barrel makers that people use and talk about on this site are going to do you well.</div></div>
^^ THIS!! ^^
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZPrecision</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Make "doesnt matter" a vote option
Once you make it a poll
Any of the well known big name barrel makers that people use and talk about on this site are going to do you well.</div></div>
^^ THIS!! ^^
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Agree with the barrel make doesn't matter. Any of the top names are good to go. What matters most is the smith's work: chamber, action job, and bedding job.
Agree with the barrel make doesn't matter. Any of the top names are good to go. What matters most is the smith's work: chamber, action job, and bedding job.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ackleyfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which makers have the straightest bores once there in the lathe and dialed in? </div></div>
Based on what experience has taught me:
In practice straightness matters little, if at all from an accuracy potential. Some even go so far to argue that the "straight ones" don't shoot as well as the bananas. I know I like the straight ones from a machining standpoint as they don't "buzz" my hands when I'm polishing the OD after machining, but that's about it.
So long as the smith takes the time to index the barrel when fitting the tennon the rifle will shoot predictably in most circumstances. Even if he doesn't it'll likely still be ok, the issue will surface when stretching your legs out to the longer distances. You may find yourself chasing some windage correction as you go further and further. Clocking the "bend" to a vertical plane helps to mitigate this.
If the bore is consistent in diameter, twist, and has a good surface finish the barrel will almost always perform well. Heat treatment/normalizing the steel makes a difference as it affects the surface finish and bore ID. I can assure anyone that a reputable barrel company pays attention to this as it affects their bottom line and production capability. The larger companies typically try to purchase steel "a pour at a time". -much like buying bullets from the same lot. They'll run some sample pieces through the process to determine exactly how the steel is going to behave during machining/heat treatment. From their they will adjust the size of the finish reamers to compensate for changes post heat treat and let it rip. It's not very practical to be constantly changing tooling to adjust for different material personalities.
The thing I try to focus on when setting up is ensuring the barrel is both concentric and tangent to the spindle axis when chambering. This encourages the reamer to "bite" evenly on all the flutes. If you see one flute cutting more than the others its trying to tell you something. (your setup is flawed)
Hope this helped.
C.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ackleyfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which makers have the straightest bores once there in the lathe and dialed in? </div></div>
Based on what experience has taught me:
In practice straightness matters little, if at all from an accuracy potential. Some even go so far to argue that the "straight ones" don't shoot as well as the bananas. I know I like the straight ones from a machining standpoint as they don't "buzz" my hands when I'm polishing the OD after machining, but that's about it.
So long as the smith takes the time to index the barrel when fitting the tennon the rifle will shoot predictably in most circumstances. Even if he doesn't it'll likely still be ok, the issue will surface when stretching your legs out to the longer distances. You may find yourself chasing some windage correction as you go further and further. Clocking the "bend" to a vertical plane helps to mitigate this.
If the bore is consistent in diameter, twist, and has a good surface finish the barrel will almost always perform well. Heat treatment/normalizing the steel makes a difference as it affects the surface finish and bore ID. I can assure anyone that a reputable barrel company pays attention to this as it affects their bottom line and production capability. The larger companies typically try to purchase steel "a pour at a time". -much like buying bullets from the same lot. They'll run some sample pieces through the process to determine exactly how the steel is going to behave during machining/heat treatment. From their they will adjust the size of the finish reamers to compensate for changes post heat treat and let it rip. It's not very practical to be constantly changing tooling to adjust for different material personalities.
The thing I try to focus on when setting up is ensuring the barrel is both concentric and tangent to the spindle axis when chambering. This encourages the reamer to "bite" evenly on all the flutes. If you see one flute cutting more than the others its trying to tell you something. (your setup is flawed)
Hope this helped.
C.
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The right barrel for the job is the one in which you can get your project done the fastest.
That way you can get to the range faster,
shoot your beloved new rifle,
see a "better" rifle on the bench next to yours,
and then put the rifle you just completed up for sale as you start building your "better" rifle!
The right barrel for the job is the one in which you can get your project done the fastest.
That way you can get to the range faster,
shoot your beloved new rifle,
see a "better" rifle on the bench next to yours,
and then put the rifle you just completed up for sale as you start building your "better" rifle!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C. Dixon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If 9 Chevy's and 1 Ford go to the races what's the odds of the Ford winning? </div></div>
good point... but if you turn that around 1 chevy 9 fords, theres a good chance chevy will win
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C. Dixon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If 9 Chevy's and 1 Ford go to the races what's the odds of the Ford winning? </div></div>
good point... but if you turn that around 1 chevy 9 fords, theres a good chance chevy will win
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