Suppressors KGM R30/R30T OR TBAC MAGNUS RR

[JRBullock1987]

About to get my bartlein barrel back from being chambered in 6.5cm over at spr for my new lone peak fusion action and want to get a new dedicated suppressor for precision shooting. Theres really just two things that im looking for and its suppression and accuracy. I dont care about a poi shift when the suppressor is either on or off as long as the shift is repeatable. For accuracy Im wanting the suppressor to at a bare minimum keep my rifles accuracy with it on as it is when its off but am really looking for a suppressor thatll tighten up the groups and make them smaller if possible. So ive widdled the list down to two suppressor (well technically 4). The KGM
-R30
-R30T
or the TBAC
-MAGNUS (Full sized 30 cal)
-MAGNUS RR (Full sized 30 cal)
So let me know which you think will work better for a precision rifle setup for both sound and accuracy!? Or if there's a better one than these two put them in the comments.
Thanks,
Justin

 

[kthomas]

I would look hard at an Abel Co Theorem/Theorem-L.

Top notch build quality with precision in mind. Not quite as expensive as TBAC and typically no wait.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Sythe STM + recoil x comp brake
Abel braked can
A419 maverick
TBAC RR k or S
R30 (k)

In that order.

 

[Maurygold]

I know it wasn’t on your list but -

Dead air lti with a recoil x.

 

[JRBullock1987]

I would look hard at an Abel Co Theorem/Theorem-L.

Top notch build quality with precision in mind. Not quite as expensive as TBAC and typically no wait.

I was just looking at them. Are they new?

 

[kthomas]

I was just looking at them. Are they new?

The Theorem line came out last year I think.

They are relatively new to the suppressor world, but their suppressors are top tier quality.

 

[Mike278th]

I have the KGM R65(discontinued now) and the TBAC Ultra 7 in 6.5. They both are super lightweight and, if anything, improve my groups when they are on the guns. I shoot the KGM with the recoil ports open, so it is noticeably louder than the TBAC. I have zero complaints with either one, but if you're going for quiet, go with TBAC

 

[jthor]

TBAC Magnus S RR for me and now with the RecoilX Comp brake for competition use and the standard brake it comes with for hunting.

 

[OREGUN]

Do you care about length/size? Do you care about recoil reduction/impulse?

The straight Magnus is what you want if you don’t care about length or size. It will be the quietest and most accurate can you can buy. If size is a concern, you could look at the shorter length Magnus (k or s). They are all great.

There’s no reason to consider the RR models unless you are worried about reducing recoil impulse. For general accuracy, it doesn’t matter. For seeing impacts and making precision corrections, think PRS style competitions, the RR models are what you want. The trade off is that the RR models are louder for the same size can.

I have a pile of TBAC cans: Magnus, Dominus, Ultra 7, Magnus K-RR. All of them either sustain my rifles no-can accuracy or improve my group size from prone. Where I see a difference is the increase in duration and feel of the recoil impulse when shooting from improvised positions compared to using a muzzle brake. For me, the balance between sound reduction and recoil mitigation while saving my brain from concussion is the Magnus K-RR.

 

[JRBullock1987]

The Theorem line came out last year I think.

They are relatively new to the suppressor world, but their suppressors are top tier quality.

How is it when it come to accuracy? Where's it at on the loudness and tone meter compared to the r30/r30t and magnus rr?

 

[kthomas]

How is it when it come to accuracy? Where's it at on the loudness and tone meter compared to the r30/r30t and magnus rr?

Excellent accuracy. These cans have pretty much no runout.

A Theorem-L would compare very favorably to any large volume suppressor.

 

[JRBullock1987]

Do you care about length/size? Do you care about recoil reduction/impulse?

The straight Magnus is what you want if you don’t care about length or size. It will be the quietest and most accurate can you can buy. If size is a concern, you could look at the shorter length Magnus (k or s). They are all great.

There’s no reason to consider the RR models unless you are worried about reducing recoil impulse. For general accuracy, it doesn’t matter. For seeing impacts and making precision corrections, think PRS style competitions, the RR models are what you want. The trade off is that the RR models are louder for the same size can.

I have a pile of TBAC cans: Magnus, Dominus, Ultra 7, Magnus K-RR. All of them either sustain my rifles no-can accuracy or improve my group size from prone. Where I see a difference is the increase in duration and feel of the recoil impulse when shooting from improvised positions compared to using a muzzle brake. For me, the balance between sound reduction and recoil mitigation while saving my brain from concussion is the Magnus K-RR.

No i dont care about size or recoil impulse really. Obviously the better the recoil control the easier it is see your shots but im not shooting a magnum cartridge so recoil isn't at the top of my list. Mainly sound/tone and accuracy. Poi doesn't matter to me as long as its repeatable. Other than that im not worried about it.

 

[JRBullock1987]

Excellent accuracy. These cans have pretty much no runout.

A Theorem-L would compare very favorably to any large volume suppressor.

Well shite....another one added to the potential list lol.

 

[Vyx313]

TBAC Magnus S RR for me and now with the RecoilX Comp brake for competition use and the standard brake it comes with for hunting.

How would you compare the RecoilX Comp brake to the standard RR brake?

 

[gebhardt02]

I use a full size magnus and a magnus S RR. Both are superb cans. Been using the S RR the most for the size, recoil reduction, and good sound reduction. Highly recommend pretty much any TBAC suppressor.

 

[Csafisher]

I would look hard at an Abel Co Theorem/Theorem-L.

Top notch build quality with precision in mind. Not quite as expensive as TBAC and typically no wait.

I just got my Abel theorem S last week. Also got the brake. It’s pretty slick. Interestingly my POI didn’t change when I put the can on. And no discernible difference in accuracy.

 

[K80/6.5]

When kgm sold all those cans dirt cheap on the hide I kick myself all the time for not buying at least 5 of them. I love my kgm can there is nothing wrong them. I would also buy the able can over the tbac and I have a Magnus sr. The RR locks you in on having it be braked it’s nice to have options.

 

[ruger35]

I have multiple Magnus cans including the RR versions, but starting over I would get the a Theorem with brake if you only want one.

I recently got the Theorem-S and with brake in the same guns it is less felt recoil than my S-RR.

 

[jthor]

How would you compare the RecoilX Comp brake to the standard RR brake?

There’s a big difference between the 2. I’ve used both brakes on my Magnus between my 6 dasher and 7 PRC. I can’t tell any difference in sound with foamies in, but the recoil is certainly different.
For instance on my 7 PRC, 8.6 lb hunting gun, with 190 ATIPs I don’t get bounced off target at all shooting prone with the RecoilX Comp. I kinda will with the standard brake.

Shooting positionally with my 6 dasher is where the RecoilX comp convinced me to switch shooting solely suppressed and sell my brakes such as the CHAD. I typically don’t free recoil, but in one match I was forced to due to time and the position I chose and I stayed on target with the gun over my shoulder.

 

[Vyx313]

Interesting, that sounds like a significant difference. I guess I’ll add it to the list. I’m pretty sure I saw someone with one at the last match I was at. I’ll see if I can send a couple rounds with it.

 

[oldrifleman]

There’s a big difference between the 2. I’ve used both brakes on my Magnus between my 6 dasher and 7 PRC. I can’t tell any difference in sound with foamies in, but the recoil is certainly different.
For instance on my 7 PRC, 8.6 lb hunting gun, with 190 ATIPs I don’t get bounced off target at all shooting prone with the RecoilX Comp. I kinda will with the standard brake.

Shooting positionally with my 6 dasher is where the RecoilX comp convinced me to switch shooting solely suppressed and sell my brakes such as the CHAD. I typically don’t free recoil, but in one match I was forced to due to time and the position I chose and I stayed on target with the gun over my shoulder.

Just ordered a recoilX brake for my Magnus S RR

 

[jthor]

Just ordered a recoilX brake for my Magnus S RR

You won’t regret it.

 

[FCrifles]

My recoilX brake for my K-RR will be here Monday. Looking forward to running it next weekend at WAR.