Anyone here own a Kimber Super Carry Pro? If so, what do you think? I am thinking that I should have a 1911 and if I am going to get one I should be able to carry it. This gun is lighter than the XD that I carry every day.
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Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
MJ,
I do not have one yet, but am anxiously awaiting my shoot and scoot to receive their allotment. I held one at a gunshow the other day and it just melted right into my hand. I currently carry a Tactical Pro II with some modifications. I also carry an Ultra CDP. I love them both, Uber reliable. I have a customized break in procedures that has allowed all of my Kimbers to function smoothly and reliably. You have my permission, tell your wife I said its OK for you to buy one! LOL
MJ,
I do not have one yet, but am anxiously awaiting my shoot and scoot to receive their allotment. I held one at a gunshow the other day and it just melted right into my hand. I currently carry a Tactical Pro II with some modifications. I also carry an Ultra CDP. I love them both, Uber reliable. I have a customized break in procedures that has allowed all of my Kimbers to function smoothly and reliably. You have my permission, tell your wife I said its OK for you to buy one! LOL
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LOL!! I've got a wife who doesn't bust my hump about gun purchases...for the most part. I've got a Colt Accurized Rifle that I don't shoot much that I think I have a buyer for that will defray some of the expense of the new gun. I, too, have my name on the call list at my local gun shop...hopefully the AR goes before the Kimber hits the showcase.
LOL!! I've got a wife who doesn't bust my hump about gun purchases...for the most part. I've got a Colt Accurized Rifle that I don't shoot much that I think I have a buyer for that will defray some of the expense of the new gun. I, too, have my name on the call list at my local gun shop...hopefully the AR goes before the Kimber hits the showcase.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
MJ,
I did some horse trading and bought a Classic and an Ultra the other day (They didnlt have any Pros, which is the one a I really wanted. I also bought a case of ammo to shoot as I am batching it this weekend, my crew is at a horse show.
My initial thoughts are What a great gun, that bobbed grip relieves just enough pressure to make the grip melt into your hand. The trigger, better than any other kimber trigger I have felt and they seem to manage the recoil very well.
More after the weekend.
fast eddie sends
MJ,
I did some horse trading and bought a Classic and an Ultra the other day (They didnlt have any Pros, which is the one a I really wanted. I also bought a case of ammo to shoot as I am batching it this weekend, my crew is at a horse show.
My initial thoughts are What a great gun, that bobbed grip relieves just enough pressure to make the grip melt into your hand. The trigger, better than any other kimber trigger I have felt and they seem to manage the recoil very well.
More after the weekend.
fast eddie sends
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
its a copy of the ed brown kobra carry at about half the cost. i have the brown in all stainless and love the feel of the grip.(think round butt revolver) the brown is top shelf all the way through.
its a copy of the ed brown kobra carry at about half the cost. i have the brown in all stainless and love the feel of the grip.(think round butt revolver) the brown is top shelf all the way through.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: birddog762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its a copy of the ed brown kobra carry at about half the cost. i have the brown in all stainless and love the feel of the grip.(think round butt revolver) the brown is top shelf all the way through. </div></div>
Bird dog,
That bobbed grip on the 5" is a dream and even the Ultra has just enough of the corner trimmed off to melt into your hand. I am pretty sure the Super Carry's are Gen I guns which offer a lot of advantages over the Kimber XXX II's. I cannot wait for the pro's to come out in force. For some reason kimber is not making as many Pro's as the other two models. Anyone know why?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: birddog762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its a copy of the ed brown kobra carry at about half the cost. i have the brown in all stainless and love the feel of the grip.(think round butt revolver) the brown is top shelf all the way through. </div></div>
Bird dog,
That bobbed grip on the 5" is a dream and even the Ultra has just enough of the corner trimmed off to melt into your hand. I am pretty sure the Super Carry's are Gen I guns which offer a lot of advantages over the Kimber XXX II's. I cannot wait for the pro's to come out in force. For some reason kimber is not making as many Pro's as the other two models. Anyone know why?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fast eddie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ,
I did some horse trading and bought a Classic and an Ultra the other day (They didnlt have any Pros, which is the one a I really wanted. I also bought a case of ammo to shoot as I am batching it this weekend, my crew is at a horse show.
My initial thoughts are What a great gun, that bobbed grip relieves just enough pressure to make the grip melt into your hand. The trigger, better than any other kimber trigger I have felt and they seem to manage the recoil very well.
More after the weekend.
fast eddie sends </div></div>
Had a bid in on Gunbroker on a pro but got outbid last night in the last 5 minutes of the auction. Kicking myself now that I didn't up my bid and go after the thing. There seems to be PLENTY of Ultras around and some deals to be had as well. Not sure if I want to wait it out on the Pro or just go ahead and have an Ultra sent to my FFL. Decisions, Decisions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fast eddie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ,
I did some horse trading and bought a Classic and an Ultra the other day (They didnlt have any Pros, which is the one a I really wanted. I also bought a case of ammo to shoot as I am batching it this weekend, my crew is at a horse show.
My initial thoughts are What a great gun, that bobbed grip relieves just enough pressure to make the grip melt into your hand. The trigger, better than any other kimber trigger I have felt and they seem to manage the recoil very well.
More after the weekend.
fast eddie sends </div></div>
Had a bid in on Gunbroker on a pro but got outbid last night in the last 5 minutes of the auction. Kicking myself now that I didn't up my bid and go after the thing. There seems to be PLENTY of Ultras around and some deals to be had as well. Not sure if I want to wait it out on the Pro or just go ahead and have an Ultra sent to my FFL. Decisions, Decisions.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fast eddie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: birddog762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its a copy of the ed brown kobra carry at about half the cost. i have the brown in all stainless and love the feel of the grip.(think round butt revolver) the brown is top shelf all the way through. </div></div>
Bird dog,
That bobbed grip on the 5" is a dream and even the Ultra has just enough of the corner trimmed off to melt into your hand. I am pretty sure the Super Carry's are Gen I guns which offer a lot of advantages over the Kimber XXX II's. I cannot wait for the pro's to come out in force. For some reason kimber is not making as many Pro's as the other two models. Anyone know why? </div></div>
Is it a demand thing or a production thing. I just figured that everyone wanted the 4 inch and that it wasn't due to slow production at Kimber.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fast eddie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: birddog762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its a copy of the ed brown kobra carry at about half the cost. i have the brown in all stainless and love the feel of the grip.(think round butt revolver) the brown is top shelf all the way through. </div></div>
Bird dog,
That bobbed grip on the 5" is a dream and even the Ultra has just enough of the corner trimmed off to melt into your hand. I am pretty sure the Super Carry's are Gen I guns which offer a lot of advantages over the Kimber XXX II's. I cannot wait for the pro's to come out in force. For some reason kimber is not making as many Pro's as the other two models. Anyone know why? </div></div>
Is it a demand thing or a production thing. I just figured that everyone wanted the 4 inch and that it wasn't due to slow production at Kimber.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fast eddie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ,
I did some horse trading and bought a Classic and an Ultra the other day (They didnlt have any Pros, which is the one a I really wanted. I also bought a case of ammo to shoot as I am batching it this weekend, my crew is at a horse show.
My initial thoughts are What a great gun, that bobbed grip relieves just enough pressure to make the grip melt into your hand. The trigger, better than any other kimber trigger I have felt and they seem to manage the recoil very well.
More after the weekend.
fast eddie sends </div></div>
Had a bid in on Gunbroker on a pro but got outbid last night in the last 5 minutes of the auction. Kicking myself now that I didn't up my bid and go after the thing. There seems to be PLENTY of Ultras around and some deals to be had as well. Not sure if I want to wait it out on the Pro or just go ahead and have an Ultra sent to my FFL. Decisions, Decisions. </div></div>
I have to take a bit of metal off of the slide release on my ultra. The round activates the slide lock if it isnt all the way back against the rear of the Mag. A few swipes of the file and it should be fine.
The five inch runs like a a scalded ape humping a singer sewing machine. Damn Fine Pistols.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fast eddie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ,
I did some horse trading and bought a Classic and an Ultra the other day (They didnlt have any Pros, which is the one a I really wanted. I also bought a case of ammo to shoot as I am batching it this weekend, my crew is at a horse show.
My initial thoughts are What a great gun, that bobbed grip relieves just enough pressure to make the grip melt into your hand. The trigger, better than any other kimber trigger I have felt and they seem to manage the recoil very well.
More after the weekend.
fast eddie sends </div></div>
Had a bid in on Gunbroker on a pro but got outbid last night in the last 5 minutes of the auction. Kicking myself now that I didn't up my bid and go after the thing. There seems to be PLENTY of Ultras around and some deals to be had as well. Not sure if I want to wait it out on the Pro or just go ahead and have an Ultra sent to my FFL. Decisions, Decisions. </div></div>
I have to take a bit of metal off of the slide release on my ultra. The round activates the slide lock if it isnt all the way back against the rear of the Mag. A few swipes of the file and it should be fine.
The five inch runs like a a scalded ape humping a singer sewing machine. Damn Fine Pistols.
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Ed, how manageable is the recoil on the three inch? I'm on tge fence about saying f it and buying an Ultra. Can't do the 5...I've carried a 5 inch 1911 and don't want to do that every day.
Ed, how manageable is the recoil on the three inch? I'm on tge fence about saying f it and buying an Ultra. Can't do the 5...I've carried a 5 inch 1911 and don't want to do that every day.
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Recoil on the 3" isn't an issue. It's snappier than a 5", but my splits feel faster on the small gun. I haven't put it on a timer to prove it, though.
Recoil on the 3" isn't an issue. It's snappier than a 5", but my splits feel faster on the small gun. I haven't put it on a timer to prove it, though.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
I'd say get it it lol. I've got a 3" kimber
I'd say get it it lol. I've got a 3" kimber
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ed, how manageable is the recoil on the three inch? I'm on tge fence about saying f it and buying an Ultra. Can't do the 5...I've carried a 5 inch 1911 and don't want to do that every day. </div></div>
MJ,
This is my second Ultra. I had an Ultra CDP and it shot great. Recoil is not bad at all, as stated above, a little crisper than the 5", but not the same amount of metal recoiling. I agree. my splits come quick and the accuracy of these little guns is amazing. The trigger is great, much better than any other Kimber I have owned. I had to make a few passes with a file on my slide stop as I had a few rds bump it and lock the slide to the rear. Not an issue.
I would buy another Kimber Ultra.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ed, how manageable is the recoil on the three inch? I'm on tge fence about saying f it and buying an Ultra. Can't do the 5...I've carried a 5 inch 1911 and don't want to do that every day. </div></div>
MJ,
This is my second Ultra. I had an Ultra CDP and it shot great. Recoil is not bad at all, as stated above, a little crisper than the 5", but not the same amount of metal recoiling. I agree. my splits come quick and the accuracy of these little guns is amazing. The trigger is great, much better than any other Kimber I have owned. I had to make a few passes with a file on my slide stop as I had a few rds bump it and lock the slide to the rear. Not an issue.
I would buy another Kimber Ultra.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
Found a vendor that has the super carrie pro in stock. If any of you are interested pm me and I will give you contact information. Cuz I don't have 100 post yet I don't wannabe accused of selling things on the forum.
Found a vendor that has the super carrie pro in stock. If any of you are interested pm me and I will give you contact information. Cuz I don't have 100 post yet I don't wannabe accused of selling things on the forum.
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One of the better prices that I have seen around the internet too.
One of the better prices that I have seen around the internet too.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Found a vendor that has the super carrie pro in stock. If any of you are interested pm me and I will give you contact information. Cuz I don't have 100 post yet I don't wannabe accused of selling things on the forum. </div></div>
As long as: 1) you aren't the vendor; 2) you don't have a financial stake in the sale of any of the pistols by the vendor; and 3) you aren't trying to sell the one you bought...it shouldn't be a problem or any violation of the rules for you to provide a link or contact info to the vendor.
Congrats on yoru find and good luck with the pistol!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Found a vendor that has the super carrie pro in stock. If any of you are interested pm me and I will give you contact information. Cuz I don't have 100 post yet I don't wannabe accused of selling things on the forum. </div></div>
As long as: 1) you aren't the vendor; 2) you don't have a financial stake in the sale of any of the pistols by the vendor; and 3) you aren't trying to sell the one you bought...it shouldn't be a problem or any violation of the rules for you to provide a link or contact info to the vendor.
Congrats on yoru find and good luck with the pistol!
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I will be picking up my super carry ultra tomorrow morning at 10. I cant wait to get it.
I will be picking up my super carry ultra tomorrow morning at 10. I cant wait to get it.
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Since I have absolutely no financial ,stake in the store that I got the gun from I'll share info. Store is the Kentucky Gun Company, I have no idea how many more Pros they have, but they listed three on Gun Broker. I paid $1,259.00 plus 30 bucks shipping and I assume that you'd have to pay KY sales tax if you are a KY resident. Link to tge store is www.kygunco.com I talked to Jennifer and she seems like a sweetheart but my deal's not done yet either...so I guess the jury's out till I have it in my hands.
Since I have absolutely no financial ,stake in the store that I got the gun from I'll share info. Store is the Kentucky Gun Company, I have no idea how many more Pros they have, but they listed three on Gun Broker. I paid $1,259.00 plus 30 bucks shipping and I assume that you'd have to pay KY sales tax if you are a KY resident. Link to tge store is www.kygunco.com I talked to Jennifer and she seems like a sweetheart but my deal's not done yet either...so I guess the jury's out till I have it in my hands.
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USPO money orders are in the mail and now the wait begins.
I will post pics when I get it.
USPO money orders are in the mail and now the wait begins.
I will post pics when I get it.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body">USPO money orders are in the mail and now the wait begins.
I will post pics when I get it. </div></div>
I love Gun Porn!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body">USPO money orders are in the mail and now the wait begins.
I will post pics when I get it. </div></div>
I love Gun Porn!
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?
It does seem to be much more expensive than the springfield or colt compacts in aluminum. </div></div>
Fit and finish of the Kimbers is superior to the Colt and the Springy IMHO.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?
It does seem to be much more expensive than the springfield or colt compacts in aluminum. </div></div>
Fit and finish of the Kimbers is superior to the Colt and the Springy IMHO.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
Here's mine....
It's realy nice other than a constant run of FTF and FTEs. I am well over the 500 round "break-in" period, too. It's going to have to go back to Kimber and hopefully they can fix it because it handles great and looks great, too. It was going to be my new carry, but with all the problems I don't think I'll trust it enough and my STIs have been flawless, so I'll stick with my Shadow.
BTW I consider the fit and finish of my new Colt Combat Elite to be better than the Kimber and zero failures, too.
Here's mine....
It's realy nice other than a constant run of FTF and FTEs. I am well over the 500 round "break-in" period, too. It's going to have to go back to Kimber and hopefully they can fix it because it handles great and looks great, too. It was going to be my new carry, but with all the problems I don't think I'll trust it enough and my STIs have been flawless, so I'll stick with my Shadow.
BTW I consider the fit and finish of my new Colt Combat Elite to be better than the Kimber and zero failures, too.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?
It does seem to be much more expensive than the springfield or colt compacts in aluminum. </div></div>
Fit and finish of the Kimbers is superior to the Colt and the Springy IMHO.</div></div>
That's about all they do right.
They routinely ship guns with extractors which are WAY too tight, slide stops that are out of spec/lock the slide back with rounds still in the magazine, and guns that just don't plain run.
I used to work for a Master Dealer. We walked on them because of all the headache they caused. After they came begging, and after they dropped the external extractor, that shop added them again.
I've known a LOT of people who've shot a LOT of Kimbers. They are not well made guns.
http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2010/07/kimber-warrior.html
Kimber sells a lot of guns because they have the buyer convinced that they want one (full page cover adds in every gun magazine made for the past 5+ years.) They don't make a gun that runs any better than any SA, STI, S&W, or Colt.
Add in that Series II bullcrap...you're just rolling the dice on them.
IMHO, you're much better off buying a cheap used base model Colt/SA, and paying a competent gunsmith to do what you need to it. Production 1911's are notorious for needing to be fixed, out of the box.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?
It does seem to be much more expensive than the springfield or colt compacts in aluminum. </div></div>
Fit and finish of the Kimbers is superior to the Colt and the Springy IMHO.</div></div>
That's about all they do right.
They routinely ship guns with extractors which are WAY too tight, slide stops that are out of spec/lock the slide back with rounds still in the magazine, and guns that just don't plain run.
I used to work for a Master Dealer. We walked on them because of all the headache they caused. After they came begging, and after they dropped the external extractor, that shop added them again.
I've known a LOT of people who've shot a LOT of Kimbers. They are not well made guns.
http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2010/07/kimber-warrior.html
Kimber sells a lot of guns because they have the buyer convinced that they want one (full page cover adds in every gun magazine made for the past 5+ years.) They don't make a gun that runs any better than any SA, STI, S&W, or Colt.
Add in that Series II bullcrap...you're just rolling the dice on them.
IMHO, you're much better off buying a cheap used base model Colt/SA, and paying a competent gunsmith to do what you need to it. Production 1911's are notorious for needing to be fixed, out of the box.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?
It does seem to be much more expensive than the springfield or colt compacts in aluminum. </div></div>
Fit and finish of the Kimbers is superior to the Colt and the Springy IMHO. </div></div>
Well you obviously haven't seen a new Kimber in the last ~8 years or so, then.
I don't even know why I posted in this thread. I think I'm going to have to build my own compact 1911, since nobody makes a decent lightweight one with frontstrap checkering, and the guns that are on the market are massively overpriced.
I really want a new carry gun this year. The HK P7 has grown on me, but it's not fun to shoot...at all.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?
It does seem to be much more expensive than the springfield or colt compacts in aluminum. </div></div>
Fit and finish of the Kimbers is superior to the Colt and the Springy IMHO. </div></div>
Well you obviously haven't seen a new Kimber in the last ~8 years or so, then.
I don't even know why I posted in this thread. I think I'm going to have to build my own compact 1911, since nobody makes a decent lightweight one with frontstrap checkering, and the guns that are on the market are massively overpriced.
I really want a new carry gun this year. The HK P7 has grown on me, but it's not fun to shoot...at all.
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I don't know if you'd only accept checkering or not, but the STI Shadow and Escort both have very nice stippling on the front strap. The Escort is under $1k while the Shadow is in the $1100-$1300 range depending upon the deal you find. They're both less than a Super Carry. They are both great shooters and lightweight.
I don't know if you'd only accept checkering or not, but the STI Shadow and Escort both have very nice stippling on the front strap. The Escort is under $1k while the Shadow is in the $1100-$1300 range depending upon the deal you find. They're both less than a Super Carry. They are both great shooters and lightweight.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: G27RR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know if you'd only accept checkering or not, but the STI Shadow and Escort both have very nice stippling on the front strap. The Escort is under $1k while the Shadow is in the $1100-$1300 range depending upon the deal you find. They're both less than a Super Carry. They are both great shooters and lightweight.
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Great group of 1911s you got there g27...BTW I spent less than $1,300 on the Super Carry that I should have in a few days. This will be my first Kimber, however I have friends who have them...I have shot them...they don't complain about problems outside of the extended break-in (500 rounds or so). If this doesn't work out I will sell the gun that I am getting and move on...albeit a few hundred dollars lighter.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: G27RR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know if you'd only accept checkering or not, but the STI Shadow and Escort both have very nice stippling on the front strap. The Escort is under $1k while the Shadow is in the $1100-$1300 range depending upon the deal you find. They're both less than a Super Carry. They are both great shooters and lightweight.
Great group of 1911s you got there g27...BTW I spent less than $1,300 on the Super Carry that I should have in a few days. This will be my first Kimber, however I have friends who have them...I have shot them...they don't complain about problems outside of the extended break-in (500 rounds or so). If this doesn't work out I will sell the gun that I am getting and move on...albeit a few hundred dollars lighter.
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Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.
Kimber's recent reliability record is probably worse than Rock Island Armory. It's a shame what has been done to Kimber. In the 90s, you couldn't touch anything like what they were selling in their price range.
Rock River Arms was the new Kimber, until they stopped making 1911s.
Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.
Kimber's recent reliability record is probably worse than Rock Island Armory. It's a shame what has been done to Kimber. In the 90s, you couldn't touch anything like what they were selling in their price range.
Rock River Arms was the new Kimber, until they stopped making 1911s.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.</div></div>
Scroll on down to page 26: http://www.kimberamerica.com/downloads/manuals/Compact.pdf
Even the folks at LB say to put about 500 rounds through their guns to smooth them in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.</div></div>
Scroll on down to page 26: http://www.kimberamerica.com/downloads/manuals/Compact.pdf
Even the folks at LB say to put about 500 rounds through their guns to smooth them in.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.</div></div>
Scroll on down to page 26: http://www.kimberamerica.com/downloads/manuals/Compact.pdf
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Read what I typed again. You apparently missed the message.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.</div></div>
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Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.</div></div>
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No I did get your message and I edited my post to reflect that even the guys at Les Baer recommend 500 rounds to properly smooth in their pistols.
Maybe I am a fool for spending the money on a Kimber...maybe I would have been better off spending another grand and getting a Fusion, or another 2 and getting a Nighthawk. I don't even have possession of the gun yet and folks are crapping all over it. I should have it at the end of this week...I will shoot it and log it after that and get back to all of you all with my report.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever tells you that a firearm needs to be broken in is a fool. No custom gunsmith would tell you such a thing. If your gun doesn't run, there's something wrong with it.</div></div>
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Read what I typed again. You apparently missed the message. </div></div>
No I did get your message and I edited my post to reflect that even the guys at Les Baer recommend 500 rounds to properly smooth in their pistols.
Maybe I am a fool for spending the money on a Kimber...maybe I would have been better off spending another grand and getting a Fusion, or another 2 and getting a Nighthawk. I don't even have possession of the gun yet and folks are crapping all over it. I should have it at the end of this week...I will shoot it and log it after that and get back to all of you all with my report.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
If ya wanna bang away on steel,paper of anything else competition oriented... sure a STI or tuned Springer are great guns. However for EDC I will take a Lightweight Bobtail 1911 any day of the week. The super carry is one of the lightest ones out there. It's an apples to oranges comparison when you throw 5 inch race guns, and steel frames into the mix. For the money, I don't see a problem with the Kimber, (I carry a SIS pro every day I'm above ground) And if there are any problems, Kimber has always taken care of their customers. Or better yet, find one of the 1.2 billion 1911 gunsmiths out there and get it tuned up.
If ya wanna bang away on steel,paper of anything else competition oriented... sure a STI or tuned Springer are great guns. However for EDC I will take a Lightweight Bobtail 1911 any day of the week. The super carry is one of the lightest ones out there. It's an apples to oranges comparison when you throw 5 inch race guns, and steel frames into the mix. For the money, I don't see a problem with the Kimber, (I carry a SIS pro every day I'm above ground) And if there are any problems, Kimber has always taken care of their customers. Or better yet, find one of the 1.2 billion 1911 gunsmiths out there and get it tuned up.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Or buy a better gun out of the gate and avoid the bullshit. It's a no brainer. </div></div>
Okay then... find me an alloy frame bobtail that weighs less than 30 ounces AND costs less than 1300. IMHO I would rather have a v-bob, better belt, and holster but that right there is 2k... The super carry is a starter 1911 with decent features, at an attractive price point. I'm sure a few years from now ol MJ will be shelling out the cash on a Nighthawk, but until then, to each their own.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Or buy a better gun out of the gate and avoid the bullshit. It's a no brainer. </div></div>
Okay then... find me an alloy frame bobtail that weighs less than 30 ounces AND costs less than 1300. IMHO I would rather have a v-bob, better belt, and holster but that right there is 2k... The super carry is a starter 1911 with decent features, at an attractive price point. I'm sure a few years from now ol MJ will be shelling out the cash on a Nighthawk, but until then, to each their own.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suitslinger</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Or buy a better gun out of the gate and avoid the bullshit. It's a no brainer. </div></div>
Okay then... find me an alloy frame bobtail that weighs less than 30 ounces AND costs less than 1300. IMHO I would rather have a v-bob, better belt, and holster but that right there is 2k... The super carry is a starter 1911 with decent features, at an attractive price point. I'm sure a few years from now ol MJ will be shelling out the cash on a Nighthawk, but until then, to each their own. </div></div>
I don't own a Nighthawk and I wouldn't spend that kind of money on any single stack 1911 unless I won the lottery.
There are a ton of alloy frame guns out there to which a bobtail mainspring housing can be added which are much less expensive than $1300. Colt, Springfield Armory, STI, and others have been mentioned.
$1500 is not a "starter" anything and you'd have to be a fool to let them convince you of that. Kimber once made a FINE quality product of which I have a specimen right here and I've posted a picture. They no longer do (not to mention have added a drop safety to their product that reduces reliability and is prone to total failure) and, quite frankly, their product is massively overpriced for what it is.
STI offers a double stack, polymer grip, 10 round capacity, single action 2011 with a ~4" barrel for less than $1500. Point being: if you're spending $1500 on a 1911 that doesn't have everything you could possibly want--including a bar stock sear and hammer, trigger job, 4 lb trigger, night sights, etc. you're probably getting the shaft.
All of this is abstracting from the fact that if you want a striker fired pistol, you can buy two of them with rigs and holsters for the kind of money they're asking for these guns.
I'm in the market for an Officer, CCO, or Lightweight Commander right now. I'm sure as hell not going to pay $1500 for a mass produced gun, however.
I suspect that if I was willing to spend that kind of money on a single stack gun, there would be a gunsmith who would build me a full custom one with heinies, an ed brown beavertail, my choice of thumb safety, front strap checkering, and my choice of finishes for slightly more than Kimber is asking for that gun.
If you don't believe me, start shopping around. The market is much more competitive than you think.
No matter how you slice it, those guns are overpriced. In fact, I'm not sure I'd pay over $1200 for any mass produced single stack 1911.
Just to put this in perspective, you can buy a 31 ounce, steel frame RIA officer's model for less than $500, a lightweight Colt Commander XDE for about $950, and an aluminum/stainless Colt Defender for about $900.
I don't care what kind of sights, trigger job, mainspring housing, beavertail, thumb safety, and grip safety you would want to add to one of those guns--you're still not going to hit the $1500 price point.
No, it's not a perfect world, but $1500 for a Kimber just doesn't do it for me. If we were talking about a gun that had no drop safety, had my choice of parts already, and just needed the sear cut and ammo, maybe I'd think differently.....
But as I see it right now, $1300-1500 for a factory Kimber? Sorry man, but that's just way off the mark when Colt has a gun for $900.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suitslinger</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Or buy a better gun out of the gate and avoid the bullshit. It's a no brainer. </div></div>
Okay then... find me an alloy frame bobtail that weighs less than 30 ounces AND costs less than 1300. IMHO I would rather have a v-bob, better belt, and holster but that right there is 2k... The super carry is a starter 1911 with decent features, at an attractive price point. I'm sure a few years from now ol MJ will be shelling out the cash on a Nighthawk, but until then, to each their own. </div></div>
I don't own a Nighthawk and I wouldn't spend that kind of money on any single stack 1911 unless I won the lottery.
There are a ton of alloy frame guns out there to which a bobtail mainspring housing can be added which are much less expensive than $1300. Colt, Springfield Armory, STI, and others have been mentioned.
$1500 is not a "starter" anything and you'd have to be a fool to let them convince you of that. Kimber once made a FINE quality product of which I have a specimen right here and I've posted a picture. They no longer do (not to mention have added a drop safety to their product that reduces reliability and is prone to total failure) and, quite frankly, their product is massively overpriced for what it is.
STI offers a double stack, polymer grip, 10 round capacity, single action 2011 with a ~4" barrel for less than $1500. Point being: if you're spending $1500 on a 1911 that doesn't have everything you could possibly want--including a bar stock sear and hammer, trigger job, 4 lb trigger, night sights, etc. you're probably getting the shaft.
All of this is abstracting from the fact that if you want a striker fired pistol, you can buy two of them with rigs and holsters for the kind of money they're asking for these guns.
I'm in the market for an Officer, CCO, or Lightweight Commander right now. I'm sure as hell not going to pay $1500 for a mass produced gun, however.
I suspect that if I was willing to spend that kind of money on a single stack gun, there would be a gunsmith who would build me a full custom one with heinies, an ed brown beavertail, my choice of thumb safety, front strap checkering, and my choice of finishes for slightly more than Kimber is asking for that gun.
If you don't believe me, start shopping around. The market is much more competitive than you think.
No matter how you slice it, those guns are overpriced. In fact, I'm not sure I'd pay over $1200 for any mass produced single stack 1911.
Just to put this in perspective, you can buy a 31 ounce, steel frame RIA officer's model for less than $500, a lightweight Colt Commander XDE for about $950, and an aluminum/stainless Colt Defender for about $900.
I don't care what kind of sights, trigger job, mainspring housing, beavertail, thumb safety, and grip safety you would want to add to one of those guns--you're still not going to hit the $1500 price point.
No, it's not a perfect world, but $1500 for a Kimber just doesn't do it for me. If we were talking about a gun that had no drop safety, had my choice of parts already, and just needed the sear cut and ammo, maybe I'd think differently.....
But as I see it right now, $1300-1500 for a factory Kimber? Sorry man, but that's just way off the mark when Colt has a gun for $900.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?</div></div>
If you are talking about the Swartz Safety there is no Swartz safety on the Super Carry line of pistols from Kimber (it also doesn't use a plastic MSH). I believe that all new Kimbers since the SIS have ditched the Swartz.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?</div></div>
If you are talking about the Swartz Safety there is no Swartz safety on the Super Carry line of pistols from Kimber (it also doesn't use a plastic MSH). I believe that all new Kimbers since the SIS have ditched the Swartz.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
MJ, if your Super Carry turns out to be reliable, I think you're going to be really pleased with it. If mine worked right, I know I'd be loving it. It points well, shoots accurately, and the rounded grip fits the hand great. Hope yours is a good one.
MJ, if your Super Carry turns out to be reliable, I think you're going to be really pleased with it. If mine worked right, I know I'd be loving it. It points well, shoots accurately, and the rounded grip fits the hand great. Hope yours is a good one.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: G27RR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ, if your Super Carry turns out to be reliable, I think you're going to be really pleased with it. If mine worked right, I know I'd be loving it. It points well, shoots accurately, and the rounded grip fits the hand great. Hope yours is a good one. </div></div>
Me too!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: G27RR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ, if your Super Carry turns out to be reliable, I think you're going to be really pleased with it. If mine worked right, I know I'd be loving it. It points well, shoots accurately, and the rounded grip fits the hand great. Hope yours is a good one. </div></div>
Me too!!
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?</div></div>
If you are talking about the Swartz Safety there is no Swartz safety on the Super Carry line of pistols from Kimber (it also doesn't use a plastic MSH). I believe that all new Kimbers since the SIS have ditched the Swartz. </div></div>
That's really some great news.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this gun have the drop safety parts or is it without?</div></div>
If you are talking about the Swartz Safety there is no Swartz safety on the Super Carry line of pistols from Kimber (it also doesn't use a plastic MSH). I believe that all new Kimbers since the SIS have ditched the Swartz. </div></div>
That's really some great news.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
I've been putting more thought into this thread, and the poster who commented about a bobtail gun is right. There's really nothing else on the market at that price point with that bundle of features.
Maybe Kimber is turning around. I sure hope so. I love mine, and I wish the Kimber of the '90s would return. Nobody could compete with them.
I've been putting more thought into this thread, and the poster who commented about a bobtail gun is right. There's really nothing else on the market at that price point with that bundle of features.
Maybe Kimber is turning around. I sure hope so. I love mine, and I wish the Kimber of the '90s would return. Nobody could compete with them.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been putting more thought into this thread, and the poster who commented about a bobtail gun is right. There's really nothing else on the market at that price point with that bundle of features.
Maybe Kimber is turning around. I sure hope so. I love mine, and I wish the Kimber of the '90s would return. Nobody could compete with them. </div></div>
my gun is at my FFL I'm going to get it tomorrow and I'll let ya know how it shoots.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been putting more thought into this thread, and the poster who commented about a bobtail gun is right. There's really nothing else on the market at that price point with that bundle of features.
Maybe Kimber is turning around. I sure hope so. I love mine, and I wish the Kimber of the '90s would return. Nobody could compete with them. </div></div>
my gun is at my FFL I'm going to get it tomorrow and I'll let ya know how it shoots.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
dont forget the pictures
dont forget the pictures
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: birddog762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dont forget the pictures </div></div>
Pics forthcoming. Should have them up tomorrow.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: birddog762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dont forget the pictures </div></div>
Pics forthcoming. Should have them up tomorrow.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been putting more thought into this thread, and the poster who commented about a bobtail gun is right. There's really nothing else on the market at that price point with that bundle of features.
Maybe Kimber is turning around. I sure hope so. I love mine, and I wish the Kimber of the '90s would return. Nobody could compete with them. </div></div>
my gun is at my FFL I'm going to get it tomorrow and I'll let ya know how it shoots. </div></div>
My EMP is in route as well. I will have pictures next week, we can compare.
Yours is bigger.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJW117</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been putting more thought into this thread, and the poster who commented about a bobtail gun is right. There's really nothing else on the market at that price point with that bundle of features.
Maybe Kimber is turning around. I sure hope so. I love mine, and I wish the Kimber of the '90s would return. Nobody could compete with them. </div></div>
my gun is at my FFL I'm going to get it tomorrow and I'll let ya know how it shoots. </div></div>
My EMP is in route as well. I will have pictures next week, we can compare.
Yours is bigger.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yours is bigger. </div></div>
Yeah, but that's just genetics
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yours is bigger.
Yeah, but that's just genetics
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
Good God Man!
Pix? Reports? Ok the hell with it, I will go shoot my own.
Good God Man!
Pix? Reports? Ok the hell with it, I will go shoot my own.
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
Haven't got out to shoot it yet but I was able to take some crappy pictures with our crappy back up of our back up camera (wife has the good one at a Haloween party, backup isn't charged) so here ya go!
Haven't got out to shoot it yet but I was able to take some crappy pictures with our crappy back up of our back up camera (wife has the good one at a Haloween party, backup isn't charged) so here ya go!
Re: Kimber Super Carry Pro
So far here's what I think (again remember that I havent made it to the range yet.)
Tolerences are might tight, finish on the gun is about what I expected, I can not believe that they make you keep track of the tiniest little tool to take the gun down (are all bushingless 1911's like that?), I LOVE the grips as they are really sticky but not too sharp as to cut into your hand, I think that the milling on the top of the slide is overkill but it looks nice none the less. I will let you guys know when I get it out to the range.
So far here's what I think (again remember that I havent made it to the range yet.)
Tolerences are might tight, finish on the gun is about what I expected, I can not believe that they make you keep track of the tiniest little tool to take the gun down (are all bushingless 1911's like that?), I LOVE the grips as they are really sticky but not too sharp as to cut into your hand, I think that the milling on the top of the slide is overkill but it looks nice none the less. I will let you guys know when I get it out to the range.
