KRG Bravo Finger Bite

[Llamas Waffles]

Hello all! Did a search and couldn't find anything really about this. Have KRG Bravos for three of my rifles (PRS/NRL/.22) and love them. For reference, I've been using the Bravo chassis for over 6 years and have no intentions to change but I've consistently had a hot spot on my middle finger from a part of the design right between the trigger guard and the grip. Because if how the action screw seats, the gap where the screw goes in lends itself to a couple pressure points. Normally I just wear a band-aid to help prevent the issue, but a more permanent solution would be nice. Pictures below to show the area in question.

I'm sure I can finagle a solution, but wanted to see if anyone else has this issue and what they may have done to alleviate it. Thanks in advance!

 

[sgtsmmiii]

Had a similar issue on a McMillan - I filled the spot with Play-Do and ran a narrow strip of moleskin over it. That way if I need to remove the stock and access the screw I can just peel the moleskin and dig the Play-do out. As always, YMMV. Good luck.

 

[Llamas Waffles]

Had a similar issue on a McMillan - I filled the spot with Play-Do and ran a narrow strip of moleskin over it. That way if I need to remove the stock and access the screw I can just peel the moleskin and dig the Play-do out. As always, YMMV. Good luck.

Hadn't thought of Play-Do, I may have to try that since it dries up and is removable. Thanks!

 

[6.5SH]

Hello all! Did a search and couldn't find anything really about this. Have KRG Bravos for three of my rifles (PRS/NRL/.22) and love them. For reference, I've been using the Bravo chassis for over 6 years and have no intentions to change but I've consistently had a hot spot on my middle finger from a part of the design right between the trigger guard and the grip. Because if how the action screw seats, the gap where the screw goes in lends itself to a couple pressure points. Normally I just wear a band-aid to help prevent the issue, but a more permanent solution would be nice. Pictures below to show the area in question.

I'm sure I can finagle a solution, but wanted to see if anyone else has this issue and what they may have done to alleviate it. Thanks in advance!
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I used the clear silicone ear plugs from a local drug store.

 

[ma smith]

Swiss file and use it to 'break' (chamfer) the sharp edges

Grobet USA® Swiss Pattern Precision Files - Barrette - 6" Cut 1 | Gesswein

Tapered in width and thickness, coming to a point. Only the flat side is cut, providing safe edges and top. Double cut. * The handle section (tang) is not considered in the file length. About Swiss Pattern Precision Files . . .Manufactured to precise production standards, using a combination of...

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[OREGUN]

There’s a little known and seldom seen product on the market that alleviates this and many other issues. It’s available through direct sales and at retailers around the country. Made of Micarta, engineered for both form and function, it’s one of the most popular products to allow a shooter to avoid “hotspots”. You’ll be able to remove playdough, silicone earplugs, bandaids and other compromises from your shooting kit altogether!

According to their marketing:

“Does your middle finger chafe your trigger guard like a 16 year old getting to 3rd base? Go be poor somewhere else!

Foundation Stocks. Everything a KRG can never dream of being.”

Feel less, see more as they say.

 

[Evintos]

You can move the trigger guard rearward a little bit but you have to remove the barreled action from the chassis.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Start doing manual labor or wear bitch mittens.

 

[memilanuk]

Normally I'm used to hearing 'hot spot' in relation to a grip only with something like a hammer or hand saw handle ie some designs will cause a 'hot spot' where the web of your hand or side of a finger can start to blister prematurely due to a poor fit.

Is that what you guys are talking about here? If so, HTF are you grabbing the grip *on a bolt gun* to cause that kind of friction/wear?

 

[Mike Casselton]

Normally I'm used to hearing 'hot spot' in relation to a grip only with something like a hammer or hand saw handle ie some designs will cause a 'hot spot' where the web of your hand or side of a finger can start to blister prematurely due to a poor fit.

Is that what you guys are talking about here? If so, HTF are you grabbing the grip *on a bolt gun* to cause that kind of friction/wear?

It's the difference between pink and purple.

It's all in the grip...

 

[spife7980]

I have to really really tilt my wrist forward and up to touch that part. Keep your wrist more vertical and grab the grip itself, and not way up high above the grip, and your issues should be resolved.
Aka, grab it better.

 

[mark5pt56]

I have to really really tilt my wrist forward and up to touch that part. Keep your wrist more vertical and grab the grip itself, and not way up high above the grip, and your issues should be resolved.
Aka, grab it better.

That's what shorty said!

 

[Llamas Waffles]

Swiss file and use it to 'break' (chamfer) the sharp edges

Grobet USA® Swiss Pattern Precision Files - Barrette - 6" Cut 1 | Gesswein

Tapered in width and thickness, coming to a point. Only the flat side is cut, providing safe edges and top. Double cut. * The handle section (tang) is not considered in the file length. About Swiss Pattern Precision Files . . .Manufactured to precise production standards, using a combination of...

www.gesswein.com

Used some fine grit sandpaper to do that previously and still get a hotspot, unfortunately.

 

[lash]

It would seem to me that someone with access to a Bravo and a 3D printer could easily make a plastic piece that would snap right in there.

 

[Llamas Waffles]

I have to really really tilt my wrist forward and up to touch that part. Keep your wrist more vertical and grab the grip itself, and not way up high above the grip, and your issues should be resolved.
Aka, grab it better.

Definitely see what you're saying; that spot isn't an issue for when actually pulling the trigger. It's when I move the rifle around on a stage that it cuts in. Front hand grabs bag off of the tripod/prop/etc. and rear hand grabs rifle by the grip, putting the whole weight of the rifle into one hand and pressing the spot in question on the middle finger while moving.

I've got tiny hands, so when pulling the trigger my other finger tips barely touch the grip at all to maintain a proper grip angle.

 

[Llamas Waffles]

It would seem to me that someone with access to a Bravo and a 3D printer could easily make a plastic piece that would snap right in there.

I was thinking that as well, unfortunately I don't have access to a 3D printer. I was thinking a plaster-cast to get an idea, scan it and then print based on the scan.

I know it would take a redesign, but would be really cool if there was a snap-in piece designed with the same mechanism used on the the bottom of Magpul grips grip to pop in/out. Just a spitball, and I'm likely in the minority of people with this issue anyhow.

 

[Llamas Waffles]

Normally I'm used to hearing 'hot spot' in relation to a grip only with something like a hammer or hand saw handle ie some designs will cause a 'hot spot' where the web of your hand or side of a finger can start to blister prematurely due to a poor fit.

Is that what you guys are talking about here? If so, HTF are you grabbing the grip *on a bolt gun* to cause that kind of friction/wear?

Picking it up and moving from prop to prop on PRS and NRL stages; I can take a short video to demo it if it doesn't make sense. It's no issue if all I do is shoot prone.

 

[Llamas Waffles]

There’s a little known and seldom seen product on the market that alleviates this and many other issues. It’s available through direct sales and at retailers around the country. Made of Micarta, engineered for both form and function, it’s one of the most popular products to allow a shooter to avoid “hotspots”. You’ll be able to remove playdough, silicone earplugs, bandaids and other compromises from your shooting kit altogether!

According to their marketing:

“Does your middle finger chafe your trigger guard like a 16 year old getting to 3rd base? Go be poor somewhere else!

Foundation Stocks. Everything a KRG can never dream of being.”

Feel less, see more as they say.

Competing on a budget, I can't exactly justify a $1,500+ stock (x3 to setup all three rifles...) If I had that kind of money I wouldn't still be using an old Bushnell CONX rangefinder for NRL

 

[Llamas Waffles]

Since there seems to be some confusion on how this even occurs, homeless these pictures help.

When firing, no contact and no issues:

When carrying/moving one-handed on a stage while other hand is carrying bag/tripod:

And where on my finger it cuts in:

Hopefully that helps clear it up!

 

[lash]

Competing on a budget, I can't exactly justify a $1,500+ stock (x3 to setup all three rifles...) If I had that kind of money I wouldn't still be using an old Bushnell CONX rangefinder for NRL

That’s alright, I still use an Amazon Warehouse damaged box 1-mile golf Bushnell for setting up my PRS22 matches.

 

[lash]

I was thinking that as well, unfortunately I don't have access to a 3D printer. I was thinking a plaster-cast to get an idea, scan it and then print based on the scan.

I know it would take a redesign, but would be really cool if there was a snap-in piece designed with the same mechanism used on the the bottom of Magpul grips grip to pop in/out. Just a spitball, and I'm likely in the minority of people with this issue anyhow.

Oh I don’t know. I picked up a bravo for a sometime build and I also shoot .22 matches with lots of movement. I can see where it would be an issue.

 

[JAS-SH]

When I read your post I thought it was when firing. Then I read your following post. I also have three Bravos and never had an issue so it seemed strange when I read the first post.

I always carry my Bravos by placing my carry hand grabbing around the front of the mag or if the mag is out, on the magazine well, hand hold in front of the trigger guard. Both the front of the trigger guard or the mag (both with an open bolt) are great holds because of much better balance with a heavy rifle/barrel and is smooth there, so I've never had that issue.

 

[carbonbased]

Since there seems to be some confusion on how this even occurs, homeless these pictures help.

When firing, no contact and no issues:
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When carrying/moving one-handed on a stage while other hand is carrying bag/tripod:
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And where on my finger it cuts in:
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Hopefully that helps clear it up!

You could try some thin fingerless gloves. Maybe even bicycle gloves. I bet that would help.

 

[Llamas Waffles]

When I read your post I thought it was when firing. Then I read your following post. I also have three Bravos and never had an issue so it seemed strange when I read the first post.

I always carry my Bravos by placing my carry hand grabbing around the front of the mag or if the mag is out, on the magazine well, hand hold in front of the trigger guard. Both the front of the trigger guard or the mag (both with an open bolt) are great holds because of much better balance with a heavy rifle/barrel and is smooth there, so I've never had that issue.

True, but that destroys the economy of motion to do that on a clock. I move similar to the shooter in this clip (not me, but the way he picks up the rifle to move is the same):

 

[OREGUN]

How about a piece of fairly highly rated electrical tape….the thick stuff.

 

[mark5pt56]

I would do as suggested above by taking a file, etc. to break the edge off, follow up with some Triactin if experiencing any post use discomfort.