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leica Geovid 10x42 vs Zeiss 10x45 t rf

Rthur

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    This may have been covered here before but haven't had any luck locating it. I would like to hear pros and cons of either unit also if anyone has had the opportunity to compare side by side. I am looking to upgrade my current equipment and these two units seem to be what I'm looking for. thanks Rthur
     
    Re: leica Geovid 10x42 vs Zeiss 10x45 t rf

    I have a Zeiss 8x45RF and a friend of mine has a Leica 10x42 RF. He has the non high definition glass. We compared and tested them side by side. The Ziess range finding capability was better (farther and more sensitive) and the much, much faster. The Ziess range lock on and read back range display is almost instantaneous. The Zeiss seemed much larger than the Leica's. Glass quality was almost equal but with a slight edge to the Zeiss. Overall the Ziess was better but cost much more. The Zeiss also has an additional feature that provides you with a hold over come up for shooting at different distances. This may or may not be a feature you desire and probably adds to the cost of the unit. The hold over feature can also be turned on or off as desired. Cameraland has a Leica demo 8x42 (non HD glass) for a super good price. Cameraland has a Zeiss 8x45RF demo on sale too. The Ziess's cost almost $1000.00 more. Both are exceptional Bino rangefinders. I guess the discriminating factor is: Are the Ziess's worth the price difference. Additionally I prefer an 8 power binos over a 10 power but that is purely a subjective choice. Remember though buy the best and cry once. I am sure you would be happy with either brand.
     
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    Thanks for the information, having a side by side comparison would be a great help in coming to a conclusion. I have to travel to St Louis to try to find a retailer with both on hand, maybe that is just what I need to do. thanks for the reply Rthur
     
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    Rthur...dagger said allot of what I was gonna say.I have also had the 10x42 Leica binos without the HD glass.As far as the glass goes I will have to say that Zeiss has the edge on all the Leicas and Zeiss binos I have and had.This includes there scopes.There is something about Zeiss that to me always has a sharper edge...flatter view and brighter image.Now if you take the Leicas vs Zeiss at the same power binos in mid afternoon where all good glass will look good....Its hard to tell the difference...ALMOST!...but to me I see it and most will so to me ZEISS wins and this includes Sworos...yes I have owned them also.

    Now on the lazer between the two like dagger said it is faster...more accurate and a step ahead of the pack.Do a search about them and you will see what others who have compared them will say.I have not used them side by side on hunts but I do remember what was faster and more accurate.I will tell you that I am going to sell my Leica so I have more funds for my Hensoldt I will be buying soon.

    To me...Zeiss wins on both glass and laser bar none.It all comes down to price and what you will be happy with.There is a youtube video on here that Zeiss let cameras go into there Headquarters for the first time and see some...not all how they build there optics...its almost 30min youtube and It is worth watching.These people make and assemble each one at a time and now I really no why there scopes are the tops...they wouldnt let the cameras go into there Bino...laser... and Hensolds area.

    I am like dagger i prefer 8 power over 10...with that much clarity you wont need it.Take your time...that is allot of coin to drop on ether one but both are worth it.
     
    Re: leica Geovid 10x42 vs Zeiss 10x45 t rf

    Thanks Jackal1 I appreciate the feedback and yes it is alot of coin. I guess I'm wanting to streamline the gear I carry while elk or coyote hunting. Also would be a nice toy for shooting.
    Rthur
     
    By a wide margin; Zeiss

    I spent ten days in RSA hunting plains game. I had the 10x /56mm Zeiss RF binos and our PHs had Leica. I ended up doing most of the ranging, which turned out to be a critical part of the hunt. Mine would work instantly on animals to 800m; and on flat, smooth surfaces to 1200m, all in mid day light.

    So in a 10 day side by side practical application, the Ziess performed MUCH better. Tape the objective lens caps to the binos, I lost both scrambling thru the bush.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 338LM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How far will the Zeiss make rangefinding hits? </div></div>

    I've ranged targets with the Zeiss out to 1300 yds without difficulty. Having said that, my Leica's have ranged targets at 1325 yds.
     
    Re: By a wide margin; Zeiss

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 338LM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is the only thing a person gains 42/45mm versus 56mm objective is a low light advantage with binoculars? </div></div>

    Yes, as well as FOV (field of view). If you have 10x42 binos and you were to mount them on a tripod, and then mount the 10x56 binos on the same tripod afterwards, and aimed at the same target, you would see more around the edges with the 56 (hence the term FOV).

    Keep in mind though, the Leica Geovid (for example) 8x56 are WAY bigger than the same model in 10x42. Imo, it is not worth the extra size to see a bit more in the way of FOV.
    And 8x42 have a larger FOV compared to 10x42 because of the magnification. To get a 10x bino to have the same FOV as an 8x42 bino, you would have to go to say a 10x56 (or something along those lines).
     
    Re: By a wide margin; Zeiss

    I compared the Zeiss Victory 8x45 RF, Zeiss 10x45, and Leica Geovid 10x42 side by side. I have also used Leica Geovid 8x56, but did not have the others to compare on that occassion.

    Here are my impressions, but others' experience may vary.

    Image quality for Zeiss and Leica are very simlar, but I felt that clarity and color were a little better for Zeiss.

    Ranging accuracy is similar between the two, and essentially a wash. However, to range with Leica you have to press the ranging button to turn it on and then again to range. For Zeiss, you depress the button once, hold down and release. So, ranging with Zeiss is faster. The other factor is that in very bright light conditions, the ranged number display can be washed out or difficult to see for all rangefinders, both Leica and Zeiss. This is where Zeiss ranging button is nice, after pressing the button and ranging there is a slight delay until the distance is calculated and the number displays. In that brief pause, you can turn your Zeiss binoc RFs down to the ground or cover you lens to see ranged number more clearly.

    Size and bulk advantage goes to Leica 10x42 over Zeiss 10x45.

    Rubber coating is more rubbery and more “grippy” for Zeiss, and harder and slicker for Leica. I preferred Zeiss rubber coating.

    The viewing lens objectives that “touch” your eyes are easier for me to use with protective lens or glasses with Zeiss. For Leica, I could get a comfortable fit and image without glasses, but had a hard time with glasses. Zeiss has more adjustments with objective cover hood and depth/length that allows for a more comfortable fit for me.

    The Leica 8x56 does provide better low-light imaging and sharp image quality, but is significantly more bulky.

    Zeiss also comes with ballistic program, but it is fairly weak. You can choose from a few different zeroed ranges with set bullet drop paths, and then choose the one that is closest to yours. However, it rounds MOA or Mil to whole number, and the gets data from set bullet drop ballistics graph. So it is better than nothing but does not beat or eliminate a good dope card or true ballistics program.

    I ended up choosing the Zeiss Victory 10x45 for a little for magnification, but still reasonable size to carry in packing when hiking…and also for abovementioned reasons. Hope this helps you.
     
    Re: By a wide margin; Zeiss

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 338LM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is the Zeiss Victory RF's yards only, or do you have the option to switch between yards and meters? </div></div>

    Zeiss you can switch between yards and meters.
    The Leica is one or the other, not both.
     
    Re: By a wide margin; Zeiss

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wilb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I spent ten days in RSA hunting plains game. I had the 10x /56mm Zeiss RF binos and our PHs had Leica. I ended up doing most of the ranging, which turned out to be a critical part of the hunt. Mine would work instantly on animals to 800m; and on flat, smooth surfaces to 1200m, all in mid day light.

    So in a 10 day side by side practical application, the Ziess performed MUCH better. Tape the objective lens caps to the binos, I lost both scrambling thru the bush. </div></div>

    You are saying that the Zeiss ocular and objective lens caps come off completely and are not attached to the binoculars? Are they 4 separate caps?
     
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    The Zeiss has two objective lens covers which are rubber, Each is attached to the objective lenses by a loop that is stretched over the objective lenses. The ocular lens cover is a one piece cover that attaches to the neck strap.
     
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    I have had to send off 2 pairs of Zeiss binos for repair, have not been impressed with their durability. I am looking at buying the Leica Geovid. I have used the Geovid's on a hunt and had no problems, they were not the HD's and were definitely impressive.
     
    Re: By a wide margin; Zeiss

    I haven't done any side-by-side comparisons with the Zeiss, but my Leica glass seemed superior to the Swarovski binos.

    I bought the 8x42 Geovids as when I tested the 10x, it was much easier to hold a great image with my shaky hands. Thus far, I am really happy with my decision. The glass is awesome, and I had no problem ranging prairie dogs in Wyoming. They worked great in sunny and overcast/rainy conditions.

    For what it's worth, our guide had a pair of the 15x56 Geovids and he said of all the models he tried out, he felt the Leica superior.

    I have not checked out the newer HD Geovids though, these things are too damn expensive to start over. I'd rather not know just how great they are.