Thanks miller time. I'll try it. I found out today that my Savage prefers SMK's over Hornady Amax. . I have been experiencing with Hornady 178 Amax for 5 weeks now, and cannot get it right. Thought my scope or gun was going bad. So today I shot 5 rounds of 44.2 Varget pushing 168 SMK out of Lapua brass, which shot lights out late tast year. Those 5 shots were back to being tight. Crazy.