Does anyone make something like the mildot master but in moa so an moa dot/hash master? I like the idea of a slide rule instead of a calculator. I currently am using the NPR1 reticle and I think an moa slide rule would be quicker than a calculator.
Rifle Scopes Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
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Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
You can use the existing Mildot Master with an MOA reticle.
On the right side of the Mildot Master is a slide labeled "Bullet Drop". On the left side of that slide is MOA.
Just put the target size in inches on the Bullet Drop slide opposite whatever the image size is in your scope in MOA.
Then just read the range to the target in yards opposite the Target Range arrow on the left side of the MDM.
Example: 22" target reads 5 mils in the scope. Range to the target is 420 yards.
You can use the existing Mildot Master with an MOA reticle.
On the right side of the Mildot Master is a slide labeled "Bullet Drop". On the left side of that slide is MOA.
Just put the target size in inches on the Bullet Drop slide opposite whatever the image size is in your scope in MOA.
Then just read the range to the target in yards opposite the Target Range arrow on the left side of the MDM.
Example: 22" target reads 5 mils in the scope. Range to the target is 420 yards.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
I asked the same question long ago, and Lindy gave me the same answer, now I have come to the realization that NPR1 or MOA\MOA suck for this game, MIL\MIL is the shit to have, its an easier system to use, and its global.
I asked the same question long ago, and Lindy gave me the same answer, now I have come to the realization that NPR1 or MOA\MOA suck for this game, MIL\MIL is the shit to have, its an easier system to use, and its global.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I asked the same question long ago, and Lindy gave me the same answer, now I have come to the realization that NPR1 or MOA\MOA suck for this game, MIL\MIL is the shit to have, its an easier system to use, and its global. </div></div>
I currently have an NPR1 scope and I am wrestling with what I want for my next one. What makes the MIL\MIL easier to use than MOA\MOA. I have just about convinced myself that I should get mil\mil. I am still having some reservations of abandoning MOA\MOA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I asked the same question long ago, and Lindy gave me the same answer, now I have come to the realization that NPR1 or MOA\MOA suck for this game, MIL\MIL is the shit to have, its an easier system to use, and its global. </div></div>
I currently have an NPR1 scope and I am wrestling with what I want for my next one. What makes the MIL\MIL easier to use than MOA\MOA. I have just about convinced myself that I should get mil\mil. I am still having some reservations of abandoning MOA\MOA.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Utahcybercowboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What makes the MIL\MIL easier to use than MOA\MOA. </div></div>
nothing.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Utahcybercowboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What makes the MIL\MIL easier to use than MOA\MOA. </div></div>
nothing.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
The only possible advantage is that a mil reticle is easier to find in a spotting scope, I think only USO offers an MOA reticle in a spotter. Otherwise, it's exactly the same methodology, so there is no other reason to switch.
The only possible advantage is that a mil reticle is easier to find in a spotting scope, I think only USO offers an MOA reticle in a spotter. Otherwise, it's exactly the same methodology, so there is no other reason to switch.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll stick with 1/4 MOA knobs </div></div>
Well said. You won't be alone.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll stick with 1/4 MOA knobs </div></div>
Well said. You won't be alone.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MILs is universal, MOA is not, no two companies have the same reticles with MOA, MILs on the other hand................................</div></div>
Both MILs and MOA are universal, though some companies f*** everything up by calling IPHY adjustments MOA. Agree with nobody having the same MOA reticles, but that doesn't bother me as long as I know what I got. Hell, my favorite scope has a mil reticle and IPHY adjustments (though labeled MOA); I just can't make myself get rid of it.
We will have to sit down to some Nicky's fajitas one day and figure it all out- I'll buy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MILs is universal, MOA is not, no two companies have the same reticles with MOA, MILs on the other hand................................</div></div>
Both MILs and MOA are universal, though some companies f*** everything up by calling IPHY adjustments MOA. Agree with nobody having the same MOA reticles, but that doesn't bother me as long as I know what I got. Hell, my favorite scope has a mil reticle and IPHY adjustments (though labeled MOA); I just can't make myself get rid of it.
We will have to sit down to some Nicky's fajitas one day and figure it all out- I'll buy.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
there is a MOA Slide rule thing like the Mil-dot master that Jerry Newman makes or made... caused a big shit storm here because of copyright infringement issues that have been corrected since. contact him he can get you one, Seems like i gave away a couple at last years tac Pro match, CKA? maybe?
there is a MOA Slide rule thing like the Mil-dot master that Jerry Newman makes or made... caused a big shit storm here because of copyright infringement issues that have been corrected since. contact him he can get you one, Seems like i gave away a couple at last years tac Pro match, CKA? maybe?
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
Since a Mildot Master will work with mil, MOA, and IPHY reticles, why would you want something else?
Since a Mildot Master will work with mil, MOA, and IPHY reticles, why would you want something else?
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R. Emmons</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is a MOA Slide rule thing like the Mil-dot master that Jerry Newman makes or made... caused a big shit storm here because of copyright infringement issues that have been corrected since. contact him he can get you one, Seems like i gave away a couple at last years tac Pro match, CKA? maybe? </div></div>
Yeah I got it - it is handy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R. Emmons</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is a MOA Slide rule thing like the Mil-dot master that Jerry Newman makes or made... caused a big shit storm here because of copyright infringement issues that have been corrected since. contact him he can get you one, Seems like i gave away a couple at last years tac Pro match, CKA? maybe? </div></div>
Yeah I got it - it is handy.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
6400 mils is equal to 360 degrees. A bit of math (like metric) to me makes the mil side of the master easier....but that's what I know. I + mils.
6400 mils is equal to 360 degrees. A bit of math (like metric) to me makes the mil side of the master easier....but that's what I know. I + mils.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
Ummm, no.
There are 2 times pi times 1000 milliradians in 360 degrees, which works out to 6283.19.
Ummm, no.
There are 2 times pi times 1000 milliradians in 360 degrees, which works out to 6283.19.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
Awwwwwww not again........
Guys you can use the MDM for any of the three common ranging variables to match your gun. To get IPHY you need to scribe a mark above the MOA mark and color it in but it works.
The slide rule thing works.
This aint rocket science it's just a measure of angle. Now if Lindy can tell me what an attoparsec is we'll see if the MDM can do that too
Cheers,
Doc
Awwwwwww not again........
Guys you can use the MDM for any of the three common ranging variables to match your gun. To get IPHY you need to scribe a mark above the MOA mark and color it in but it works.
The slide rule thing works.
This aint rocket science it's just a measure of angle. Now if Lindy can tell me what an attoparsec is we'll see if the MDM can do that too
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
The parsec ("parallax of one arcsecond", symbol pc) is a unit of length, equal to just under 31 trillion kilometres (about 19 trillion miles), or about 3.26 light-years.
"Atto" (symbol a) is a prefix in the International System of Units denoting a factor of 10^-18.
An atto-parsec, then, works out to about 1 & 7/32 inches.
Shall we measure muzzle velocity in furlongs per microfortnight?
Hi, Doc!
The parsec ("parallax of one arcsecond", symbol pc) is a unit of length, equal to just under 31 trillion kilometres (about 19 trillion miles), or about 3.26 light-years.
"Atto" (symbol a) is a prefix in the International System of Units denoting a factor of 10^-18.
An atto-parsec, then, works out to about 1 & 7/32 inches.
Shall we measure muzzle velocity in furlongs per microfortnight?
Hi, Doc!
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
Holy shit! I'm glad all we use are Stanley tape measures in my business.
Holy shit! I'm glad all we use are Stanley tape measures in my business.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
6400 work in artillery and it works in guns. Have fun doing frog hair math!!!!!!!!!
6400 work in artillery and it works in guns. Have fun doing frog hair math!!!!!!!!!
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parsec ("parallax of one arcsecond", symbol pc) is a unit of length, equal to just under 31 trillion kilometres (about 19 trillion miles), or about 3.26 light-years.
"Atto" (symbol a) is a prefix in the International System of Units denoting a factor of 10^-18.
An atto-parsec, then, works out to about 1 & 7/32 inches.
Shall we measure muzzle velocity in furlongs per microfortnight?
Hi, Doc!
</div></div>
Hi Lindy!!!
1 7/32" at what range?
If at 100yards then the MDM can be used!!!!
I figure you'd have to scribe the line about 5/32" + 3 SCH's below the MOA line.
Cheers,
Doc
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parsec ("parallax of one arcsecond", symbol pc) is a unit of length, equal to just under 31 trillion kilometres (about 19 trillion miles), or about 3.26 light-years.
"Atto" (symbol a) is a prefix in the International System of Units denoting a factor of 10^-18.
An atto-parsec, then, works out to about 1 & 7/32 inches.
Shall we measure muzzle velocity in furlongs per microfortnight?
Hi, Doc!
</div></div>
Hi Lindy!!!
1 7/32" at what range?
If at 100yards then the MDM can be used!!!!
I figure you'd have to scribe the line about 5/32" + 3 SCH's below the MOA line.
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
TX, by GOD, funny!
TX, by GOD, funny!
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parsec ("parallax of one arcsecond", symbol pc) is a unit of length, equal to just under 31 trillion kilometres (about 19 trillion miles), or about 3.26 light-years.
"Atto" (symbol a) is a prefix in the International System of Units denoting a factor of 10^-18.
An atto-parsec, then, works out to about 1 & 7/32 inches.
Shall we measure muzzle velocity in furlongs per microfortnight?
Hi, Doc!
</div></div>
Do NOT encourage the Lindy!
Just leave him be and he will leave us be.
If he ever releases all the obscure things in his head the universe will collapse.
Please don't ask what an arcanamaven is.......someone will lose an eye.
Rule number two: Don't ask Boltripper about scales....EVER!
Rule number three: Never mention Stieners or break-in around Nobody.
Rule four: E=mc2......(still refining this one)
I AM kidding, of course.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parsec ("parallax of one arcsecond", symbol pc) is a unit of length, equal to just under 31 trillion kilometres (about 19 trillion miles), or about 3.26 light-years.
"Atto" (symbol a) is a prefix in the International System of Units denoting a factor of 10^-18.
An atto-parsec, then, works out to about 1 & 7/32 inches.
Shall we measure muzzle velocity in furlongs per microfortnight?
Hi, Doc!
</div></div>
Do NOT encourage the Lindy!
Just leave him be and he will leave us be.
If he ever releases all the obscure things in his head the universe will collapse.
Please don't ask what an arcanamaven is.......someone will lose an eye.
Rule number two: Don't ask Boltripper about scales....EVER!
Rule number three: Never mention Stieners or break-in around Nobody.
Rule four: E=mc2......(still refining this one)
I AM kidding, of course.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">6400 work in artillery and it works in guns. Have fun doing frog hair math!!!!!!!!!</div></div>
This is Sniper's Hide, not The Firebase.
Mil scopes use true milliradians - except for the Leupold M3A, which has a 6400 reticle, but adjusted in MOA.
Doc - the parsec is a unit of linear measurement, not angle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">6400 work in artillery and it works in guns. Have fun doing frog hair math!!!!!!!!!</div></div>
This is Sniper's Hide, not The Firebase.
Mil scopes use true milliradians - except for the Leupold M3A, which has a 6400 reticle, but adjusted in MOA.
Doc - the parsec is a unit of linear measurement, not angle.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
If I am not too late for class; I'd like to ask Lindy a question? Lindy since you mentioned the M3A; what is your take on the combination it provides?
If I am not too late for class; I'd like to ask Lindy a question? Lindy since you mentioned the M3A; what is your take on the combination it provides?
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
It's a good scope, but I prefer a bit higher magnification in a variable scope, around 15X. I think 4-16 or 3-15 is a good magnification range for a sniper scope.
It's a good scope, but I prefer a bit higher magnification in a variable scope, around 15X. I think 4-16 or 3-15 is a good magnification range for a sniper scope.
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
Agree...but the math is close, yes....just divide many times. Lagarithms rule!
Agree...but the math is close, yes....just divide many times. Lagarithms rule!
Re: Mildot master but MOA instead of MILS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am with the tape measure guy, You guys definitely spent more time in class than I did. WOW </div></div>
Oh wait untill the Mil / MOA / IPHY arguments (discussions) get into ballistics. THEN it gets fun.
When somebody drops a decimal point,........they will die. Giggle
Cheers,
Doc
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chain</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am with the tape measure guy, You guys definitely spent more time in class than I did. WOW </div></div>
Oh wait untill the Mil / MOA / IPHY arguments (discussions) get into ballistics. THEN it gets fun.
When somebody drops a decimal point,........they will die. Giggle
Cheers,
Doc
