We’ve all watched it, many times. So what do YOU think he said?
And again, what is different about partial birth abortion vs infanticide?
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I just skimmed to the bottom again, to say this:
Too many of ya'll are COMPLAINING about only having 2 folks to vote for. The RED or the BLUE. Like that's a problem, and some think that there should be more.
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG. And here is why:
Up here in my/our/this country (Canada) we have a 'multiple party system'. And it fails often, and quite often with a "minority government". What is that, you ask? Let me explain it this way:
You have the COMMUNIST side, let's call "Party L/D"
Then you have the Conservative (moderate) side, let's call "Party P/R"
Then you have the Conservative (hardline) side, let's call "Party N/C"
So then say that 40% vote for party "L/D", then another 30% vote Conservative "P/R" and then the other 30% vote Conservative "N/C".
Look at that, 60% of the country just voted for a Conservative government,,,, great huh? WRONG.
The LIEberals/DEMONcrats got in with their 40% win, which is a minority government, because the rest of the population split their vote and LOST BIG.
Make things worse by having 5 or 6 different Parties on the ballot, and then get back to me about how this is all 'Better'. I'll wait.
Too many of ya'll are COMPLAINING about only having 2 folks to vote for. The RED or the BLUE. Like that's a problem, and some think that there should be more.
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG. And here is why:
Up here in my/our/this country (Canada) we have a 'multiple party system'. And it fails often, and quite often with a "minority government". What is that, you ask? Let me explain it this way:
You have the COMMUNIST side, let's call "Party L/D"
Then you have the Conservative (moderate) side, let's call "Party P/R"
Then you have the Conservative (hardline) side, let's call "Party N/C"
So then say that 40% vote for party "L/D", then another 30% vote Conservative "P/R" and then the other 30% vote Conservative "N/C".
Look at that, 60% of the country just voted for a Conservative government,,,, great huh? WRONG.
The LIEberals/DEMONcrats got in with their 40% win, which is a minority government, because the rest of the population split their vote and LOST BIG.
Make things worse by having 5 or 6 different Parties on the ballot, and then get back to me about how this is all 'Better'. I'll wait.
I think he was just making a joke. I could be wrong but that’s how I took it. ??
If you read my other posts in this thread you will see that I am amazing in my ability to take a number of longer paragraphs and condense the entirety of their complex meaning into a trite, pithy, comment on what would make the world better or what is subliminally intended by the original poster.
I stare at goats and make them weep.
Sometimes these threads need to be interupted by going out to shoot.
lol OP, are you new?
Have you been around most 'gun people' at a gun range? Half of them are a bigger problem than an actual liberal.
Have you been around most 'gun people' at a gun range? Half of them are a bigger problem than an actual liberal.
You would have to make one more change to make it really work for the people
You would also have to add Ranked Choice Voting if you had 4 5 or 6 + parties to vote for
You would have to make one more change to make it really work for the people
You would also have to add Ranked Choice Voting if you had 4 5 or 6 + parties to vote for
Biggest scam out there.
Our Republic is more or less designed for two parties as a means to avoid the mess of Parliament.
Dems stole a seat in ME with RCV.
Now that they know it works, they will go national.
Basically what they are using to kill Bernie.
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Like Laws, religion, accounting and regulations, the more "complicated" voting gets the more you can be sure it's not being done in the interests of the common folk.
We. Need. More. Choices.
Both Dems and Republicans are currently working for the same .01% and I'm (personally) sick of that. I want real choices...not a choice between an Oligarchy bought and paid for Democrat or an Oligarchy bought and paid for Republican.
I want a real choice who works for me and is afraid of losing his job if he doesn't do what he/she ran on. You promise you'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it? You don't build the wall or make *ME* pay for it yer fired. You tell me we are going to "negotiate like crazy" with Big Pharma to get fair drug prices and you don't so that? Yer fucking fired. You tell me you are going to get me single payer health care and don't do that? You get the point....
Our Government is no longer afraid of the American people. Not Dems - Not Reps. They could care less. The System is broken and needs fixed before it erupts into violence. Personally? We need to split up like a married couple with irreconcilable differences. Ya'll want "don't work/don't eat" no Social Programs, no Government every man fer himself? Then move on along to The No Socialism Republic of North America.
Ya want Social Engineering and free lunch and free college and free health care and safe rooms for the kiddies and no guns? Then move on along to the Socialist States of America and knock yerself out. We all want away from folks who don't think like we do so let's divvy it up and move along. Tired of all the Hate...got shit to do now.
VooDoo
Both Dems and Republicans are currently working for the same .01% and I'm (personally) sick of that. I want real choices...not a choice between an Oligarchy bought and paid for Democrat or an Oligarchy bought and paid for Republican.
I want a real choice who works for me and is afraid of losing his job if he doesn't do what he/she ran on. You promise you'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it? You don't build the wall or make *ME* pay for it yer fired. You tell me we are going to "negotiate like crazy" with Big Pharma to get fair drug prices and you don't so that? Yer fucking fired. You tell me you are going to get me single payer health care and don't do that? You get the point....
Our Government is no longer afraid of the American people. Not Dems - Not Reps. They could care less. The System is broken and needs fixed before it erupts into violence. Personally? We need to split up like a married couple with irreconcilable differences. Ya'll want "don't work/don't eat" no Social Programs, no Government every man fer himself? Then move on along to The No Socialism Republic of North America.
Ya want Social Engineering and free lunch and free college and free health care and safe rooms for the kiddies and no guns? Then move on along to the Socialist States of America and knock yerself out. We all want away from folks who don't think like we do so let's divvy it up and move along. Tired of all the Hate...got shit to do now.
VooDoo
Ok Voodensy, I'm with ya. I'm all for living in that no social programs republic.......
But not so fast. I'll be requiring a check for my SS "deductions" for the last 35 years.....with interest.
But not so fast. I'll be requiring a check for my SS "deductions" for the last 35 years.....with interest.
I am with @armorpl8chikn, Id like to withdraw my SS. Will take single payment one lump sum for my 30 years...
Oh, and this is a interesting article.
Regardless of my position on this subject, a wall always seemed like campaign rhetoric to me...
But a multilayer approach, now that makes sense.
With...
-solid fencing
-upgraded electronics / monitoring
-better funded / trained agents
-more boots
...and the key IMO is / was...getting Mexico in-line.
But who knows. None of us know the real numbers of people crossing the border illegally. And thanks to the census fail...we will never know how many illegals are already here. But I bet its way way more than we being told...
I could be wrong...
"Mexico may not have paid for the president’s wall, but the country has, in effect, become Mr. Trump’s immigration police force. Mexico itself has become the wall."
www.nytimes.com
Oh, and this is a interesting article.
Regardless of my position on this subject, a wall always seemed like campaign rhetoric to me...
But a multilayer approach, now that makes sense.
With...
-solid fencing
-upgraded electronics / monitoring
-better funded / trained agents
-more boots
...and the key IMO is / was...getting Mexico in-line.
But who knows. None of us know the real numbers of people crossing the border illegally. And thanks to the census fail...we will never know how many illegals are already here. But I bet its way way more than we being told...
I could be wrong...
"Mexico may not have paid for the president’s wall, but the country has, in effect, become Mr. Trump’s immigration police force. Mexico itself has become the wall."
Opinion | Trump: ‘I’m Using Mexico’ (Published 2019)
The country itself has become the wall. This has to change.
I am with @armorpl8chikn,
Oh, and this is a interesting article.
Regardless of my position on this subject, a wall always seemed like campaign rhetoric to me...
I could be wrong...
"Mexico may not have paid for the president’s wall, but the country has, in effect, become Mr. Trump’s immigration police force. Mexico itself has become the wall."
Opinion | Trump: ‘I’m Using Mexico’ (Published 2019)
The country itself has become the wall. This has to change.
That is hilarious, especially because it's written by a Mexican and a very outspoken/famous/harsh Trump critic.
Democrats laugh and jeer, and claim "that bastard Trump said he'd build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, but he hasn't done either one."
Mexicans are fuming and complaining "that bastard Trump has made us enforce immigration laws and border integrity, and now we ARE the wall."
That's just awesome.
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Hmmm...could be lies...
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Prices for prescription drugs edged down by 1% last year, a rare result driven by declines for generics and slow, low growth in the cost of brand-name medications, the government said Thursday.
Though modest, it was the first such price drop in 45 years, according to nonpartisan economic experts at the federal Department of Health and Human Services, who deliver an annual report on the nation’s health care spending."
apnews.com
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Prices for prescription drugs edged down by 1% last year, a rare result driven by declines for generics and slow, low growth in the cost of brand-name medications, the government said Thursday.
Though modest, it was the first such price drop in 45 years, according to nonpartisan economic experts at the federal Department of Health and Human Services, who deliver an annual report on the nation’s health care spending."
US report: Prescription drug prices down slightly last year
A government report says prices for prescription drugs edged down 1% last year, driven by declines for generics and slow growth for brand-name medications.
apnews.com
We don't need more choices. There's only one real party to support!
I'm all in...except for Gary Johnson.
I voted for Bob Barr in 2008.
I personally wouldn't want a space case like Gary Johnson as President, but man he would be so much fun to party with! I'm still deluding myself that Ron Paul will be President someday, but I know it won't happen. Best President we'll never have.
There's something very creepy about Gary Johnson, my gut just tells me he's a total phony. On the other hand I don't need my gut to know his "Libertarian" running mate in 2016 William Weld wasn't libertarian at all and had a long record of being anti 2nd Amendment and gun rights. Basically a RINO turned LINO. I'd be all for supporting genuine libertarian candidates, but I don't expect to find them in the Libertarian Party.
Voting Libertarian party pretty much just means you want the Democrats to win, but you want to be able to act all superior about "I voted my conscience".
Like it or not, REALITY is there is only two sides and sitting on the fence means you help the one that is most against you win.
Like it or not, REALITY is there is only two sides and sitting on the fence means you help the one that is most against you win.
Sometimes in politicians there's only one side. Would you have voted for the Republican Party in 2016 had Jeb "Please Clap" Bush had been the nominee? Would you really think voting for Bush would have protected you and the country from Clinton and the Democrats? People should try to get informed as they possibly can and yes vote with their conscience. It's been many conservatives willingness to vote for anyone with an (R) after their name that's allowed RINO establishment types and Neocons to run the GOP and along with the establishment allies in the Democrats run the country against the interests of ordinary Americans for so long.
Nationally, I agree. I vote libertarian often in local races when R’s run unopposed by D’s.
Your statement is pretty much completely wrong in my opinion.
In the 2016 elections you had 2 choices. Hillary Clinton or whoever was on the Republican Ticket. and ANY choice other than the person on the republican ticket was essentially a vote for Hillary Clinton. So yes, I would have voted for whoever was on that ticket unless they were worse than Hillary Clinton (who is a hard act to follow). Any of the candidates on the republican primary list would have been at least somewhat better for our freedoms and gun rights that Hillary who would have immediately launched an all out war on them.
It's specifically because lots of "conservatives" will only vote if they get the perfect candidate but the communists will vote for anyone as long as they are a party member, that we are loosing ground. You will NOT find a politician running for national office that is perfect or good, sorry, won't happen. They won't get to that point without having paid their dues.
A prime example of this is VA
The Communists went out and voted, even if their candidates were pretty bad. Too many folks on the "good" side, didn't bother to vote, or "voted their conscience" and so the communists won the day and now are going full steam ahead.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but until a major collapse and rebuilding, politics in this country is going to be a dirty business of getting the best you can.
Perfectly stated.
The democrats stick together as a block. They may "eat their own" on the surface, but you bet your ass that they are checking that "D" box at the end of the day.
Something to also keep in mind is that if you wanted the ability to have another party challenge the 2 party rule, well you really should have gotten in gear to block the "campaign finance reform" act.
That was a brilliant propaganda coup. They even boasted about it afterwards.
Both parties had suffered a loss in the general election thanks to a 3rd party candidate spoiling it for them by drawing away votes.
Both wanted no more 3rd parties being able to mess things up.
The propaganda masters whipped up "public concern" and got a bill passed which basically meant that if you were part of the club with millions of dollars and lawyers, you were good. Anyone else... we will have the justice department steam roll you.
So what do you do?
Well you go to the primaries, that is where your individual vote has an outsized effect.
The primaries is where you all do your best to make sure the candidate you like the best is the one that gets on the ticket.
That's the time to fight and struggle and "vote your conscience".
Once the ticket is set, then it's the time to do what it takes to make sure communists don't win.
The Tea Party was so successful in doing so, that they scared the politicians enough to have both Republican traitors like McStain and the Obamas working together to crush them using the IRS and FBI.
The Communists have been very successful in taking over the democrat party the same way.
So while there are still 2 party primaries, get in there and work those primaries hard, that is where your vote matters.
And don't let them get away with BS like in CA and their "jungle primary" which is designed to specifically destroy your ability to push conservative good candidates to the front in the primaries.
That was a brilliant propaganda coup. They even boasted about it afterwards.
Both parties had suffered a loss in the general election thanks to a 3rd party candidate spoiling it for them by drawing away votes.
Both wanted no more 3rd parties being able to mess things up.
The propaganda masters whipped up "public concern" and got a bill passed which basically meant that if you were part of the club with millions of dollars and lawyers, you were good. Anyone else... we will have the justice department steam roll you.
So what do you do?
Well you go to the primaries, that is where your individual vote has an outsized effect.
The primaries is where you all do your best to make sure the candidate you like the best is the one that gets on the ticket.
That's the time to fight and struggle and "vote your conscience".
Once the ticket is set, then it's the time to do what it takes to make sure communists don't win.
The Tea Party was so successful in doing so, that they scared the politicians enough to have both Republican traitors like McStain and the Obamas working together to crush them using the IRS and FBI.
The Communists have been very successful in taking over the democrat party the same way.
So while there are still 2 party primaries, get in there and work those primaries hard, that is where your vote matters.
And don't let them get away with BS like in CA and their "jungle primary" which is designed to specifically destroy your ability to push conservative good candidates to the front in the primaries.
Don't worry the complete burn down will be along, soon enough. Brought to you by the Educated who see us as nothing more than peasants, very much like prior to 4-19-1775. Interesting how in the latter years, we had to bail their ass out many times over. It won't go that way again no matter the who the oppressors, are. Not many gardens or med factory's,... in the know it all city's last I checked. That's OK as it will always be on the store shelf,...won't it?
Rogan backed sanders...
Either weapons grade pharmaceuticals or stupid.
I've figured out which one.
R
This is another thing I have been saying for like 20 years and no body seems to get it - we have divided ourselves into Red and Blue and all the Red folks attack anyone who didn't vote Red and all the Blue folks attack anyone who didn't vote Blue. I was chastised by Left Leaning folks for not voting for Hillary in 2016. I said she's a shit candidate and I'm not voting for shit candidates. Well, they voted for her even though they knew she was shit because she was Blue and only for that reason. The hated her fucking guts but held their nose and voted for her anyway.
"We always seem to get shit candidates anymore and we only get 2 choices" I asked them if maybe they weren't getting good candidates because the DNC Mob Bosses know damn good and well that Dems will vote for any shit candidate they force nominate no matter how shit they are. So why would the DNC be forced to get them real good candidates when they would vote for Corporate owned Whores anyway?
We won't get better candidates if we prove to The Bosses that we support their shit candidate no matter how bad. This happens on both sides - Red or Blue. We get shit candidates because we *vote* for shit candidates.
VooDoo
Which leads me to my point.
It doesn't/hasn't existed in this country.
If we understand this then where exactly is this far right I hear so much of?
On the lines of the party switch, doesn't exist.
R
I agree. You could also likely put some of the ME totalitarian theocracies in the same category.
Which I mentioned in a previous post. Its interesting how much of the left have aligned themselves to this. Do they not realize how quickly this alliance could turn on them?
That was a very good possibility and could have been done, but that is not a possibility any more.
We are now in the end game stages.
The Communists are playing for all the marbles and as shown in VA as well as far as Obama tried to take things, the moment the communists get in power they WILL go full steam ahead not only with what they want, but also rigging the rules, rigging the courts, rigging LE, and setting up all their stooges in power to make sure nobody can ever challenge them again.
Like in CA, they totally rigged everything including the primaries to just about ensure Communist rule.
So in this case, if you "teach the Republicans a lesson" by kicking them out of office.... Sure you will feel good about it...
But the Communists will thank you very much for your help and proceed to firmly set themselves up as your rulers forever until something causes a significant crash in society as a whole.
Also you may look and see that getting your rights back is very hard, almost impossible often, as compared to folks taking them away at the stroke of a pen.
Its like an arsonist who is used to setting small fires and putting them out, or at least not being burned by their own fire...... they havent been burned or lost control of their animal.......yet.....
Id say it does exist in this country in various degrees along the spectrum. Its just not a prevailing political position and will never be. Pockets of people here and there.
Again its a spectrum.
Insignificant, laughed out of common society.
Same could be said of Jim Jones.
Point being, they are a made up enemy to balance the true numbers of hard line lefties.
R
Took the words out of my mouth. In any society you have the extremes, and you have 99% of everyone else who thinks the extremes are a bunch of horse turds.
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I can agree with that.
Id also say that the goal posts have been moved (or at least attempted) for the far right to encompass such people who would consider themselves constitutionalists or other social/economic conservatives (who also tend to have stronger religious beliefs).
Cheers.
When all the city folks run outta food and try to steal it from the people in the country... they will wish the weren’t so “citified”.
Yes and no.
Didn't turn out that way for the farmers in the USSR
Didn't turn out that way for the farmers in China
Didn't turn out that way for the farmers in Cambodia
Didn't turn out all that great for farmers in this country for those that tried to stand up to FDR and his dictatorship.
Who controls and has the loyalty of the "Just following orders" types in the military will decide how it goes.
You bet the Communists will send every boot they have under their command to take what they want for their base.
If the Communists control the "just following orders" types, then it becomes everybody gets to starve and die together.
Taking 2A rights away.
Like it stops there...
Taking away 2A rights automatically pulls the rug out from beneath ALL of the others...
Tell it like it actually is...
Having the 2A, restoring its teeth, applying its lessons as actually needed, is the only thing that can/will preserve all the rest of the freedoms here in the USA. We do not define 2A, they do not define 2A, nobody defines 2a, nobody can define 2a. It's not a definition.
it's the ultimate and incontrovertible prohibition against defying the right of the people to private weapons ownership, about prohibiting the defiance of a God-given human right. It's the right of self defense, sacred and precious since even before the Magna Carta. Defense not only against threats to health and life, but against the oppressions of governments that would bring those things to bear against their own citizenry. No means no, period. They don't make those decisions, we do; by the vote when the vote has a valid meaning; by other means when it becomes a travesty, as it has.
Or, we can all sit on our hands in the stands with the popular boys and girls, and feel good about ourselves...
We can go stand in their fenced off pens and feel good about achieving precisely nada in any definition of real terms.
The Nazis knew all about herding people into pens, boxcars, showers, starvation labor camps and mass graves.
Obeying illegal/unconstitutional laws is simply aiding and abetting the traitors who make them. We have teeth. Show them!
Going to rallies, beseeching your tormentors; is simply doing the wrong thing by the right rules.
Don't play.
Be the pin that drops in a vacuum. Leave them wondering what's really on your mind. No messages, tell them nothing. Leave them filling in the blanks. Those blanks are already filled, without any contribution on our part.
Their agendas are on track, there is not a single thing we can do to change that, or change their minds.
While we beseech, they encroach. Their end game is obvious to even the deaf, dumb, and blind.
They make the law in spite of the Constitution. While we obey, we further their ends.
So what are we doing? We're walking into their designated assembly points and baring our throats while the cameras record, the facial recognition systems build their persons of interest databases, and we provide the data that jails us for life when the other shoe drops. Lifespans are relative. Captive populations are expensive to support and maintain.
People are getting jailed for wearing masks at peaceful rallies, but Antifa runs wild doing harm and destruction...?
You want to know what injustice is? That's injustice..., and we let it ride. We expect to authorities to do something they must, but won't.
Evil triumphs when the decent among us posture meaninglessly, and call it progress.
Tastes like chicken...
We don't need more choices when there's only one left for us to choose; all the good one are already taken, and trashed.
But all will turn and walk away. We get what we earn, nothing; because we don't earn anything.
We watch and grumble. They say morale is good when we grumble. A little. They don't talk about when we grumble more.
Buy more ammo.
Some will not like this viewpoint. They will strike the First Amendment in their careening path to destroy the Second Amendment. The rest are next.
It's what they do...
Somewhere in these United States is a remaining holdout vestigial semblance of a Home of the Free, of a Land of the Brave.
But it's getting very hard to find.
Like it stops there...
Taking away 2A rights automatically pulls the rug out from beneath ALL of the others...
Tell it like it actually is...
Having the 2A, restoring its teeth, applying its lessons as actually needed, is the only thing that can/will preserve all the rest of the freedoms here in the USA. We do not define 2A, they do not define 2A, nobody defines 2a, nobody can define 2a. It's not a definition.
it's the ultimate and incontrovertible prohibition against defying the right of the people to private weapons ownership, about prohibiting the defiance of a God-given human right. It's the right of self defense, sacred and precious since even before the Magna Carta. Defense not only against threats to health and life, but against the oppressions of governments that would bring those things to bear against their own citizenry. No means no, period. They don't make those decisions, we do; by the vote when the vote has a valid meaning; by other means when it becomes a travesty, as it has.
Or, we can all sit on our hands in the stands with the popular boys and girls, and feel good about ourselves...
We can go stand in their fenced off pens and feel good about achieving precisely nada in any definition of real terms.
The Nazis knew all about herding people into pens, boxcars, showers, starvation labor camps and mass graves.
Obeying illegal/unconstitutional laws is simply aiding and abetting the traitors who make them. We have teeth. Show them!
Going to rallies, beseeching your tormentors; is simply doing the wrong thing by the right rules.
Don't play.
Be the pin that drops in a vacuum. Leave them wondering what's really on your mind. No messages, tell them nothing. Leave them filling in the blanks. Those blanks are already filled, without any contribution on our part.
Their agendas are on track, there is not a single thing we can do to change that, or change their minds.
While we beseech, they encroach. Their end game is obvious to even the deaf, dumb, and blind.
They make the law in spite of the Constitution. While we obey, we further their ends.
So what are we doing? We're walking into their designated assembly points and baring our throats while the cameras record, the facial recognition systems build their persons of interest databases, and we provide the data that jails us for life when the other shoe drops. Lifespans are relative. Captive populations are expensive to support and maintain.
People are getting jailed for wearing masks at peaceful rallies, but Antifa runs wild doing harm and destruction...?
You want to know what injustice is? That's injustice..., and we let it ride. We expect to authorities to do something they must, but won't.
Evil triumphs when the decent among us posture meaninglessly, and call it progress.
Tastes like chicken...
We don't need more choices when there's only one left for us to choose; all the good one are already taken, and trashed.
But all will turn and walk away. We get what we earn, nothing; because we don't earn anything.
We watch and grumble. They say morale is good when we grumble. A little. They don't talk about when we grumble more.
Buy more ammo.
Some will not like this viewpoint. They will strike the First Amendment in their careening path to destroy the Second Amendment. The rest are next.
It's what they do...
Somewhere in these United States is a remaining holdout vestigial semblance of a Home of the Free, of a Land of the Brave.
But it's getting very hard to find.
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Exactly, you need look no further than England, Australia, Canada and most of western Europe where they long ago got rid of any right to keep arms the government doesn't feel you should have.
Now they are full on making it criminal to say things that others don't like if those 'others' are "Special Protected Snowflakes".
The police showing up at your door because your wife told some man online that a dress doesn't make him a woman like her.
Yep happens in England...
But if you need to report a mugging, rape, home invasion..... hopefully the police will sometime have resources to send someone around to take a report.
Your assuming that everyone of those Republican candidates would actually work in opposition to Hillary Clinton and Democrats, I believe your assumption to be wrong. When you look at bad laws that have actually passed and become law, it's often been under Republican leadership not Democrats. Even the venerated Ronald Reagan (personally not a fan) gave us infringements on the 2nd Amendment and amnesty to illegal aliens.
Even your argument that they're not going to be as bad as Hillary and therefore we should vote them is flawed. If the Republican candidate was a Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, or John McCain those are people essentially in line with the Democratic Establishment and against everything most of us hold dear. Sure you can say they're not as bad as Hillary Clinton, but in terms of changes of policy and laws they're no different. Hillary will give you the middle finger while stripping you of your God given rights and further dismantling the Constitutional Republic, while Jeb will wave an American flag in your face while doing the same and waiting for you to clap.
It's not about getting the perfect candidate, no human being is perfect. It's about getting a candidate that is sincerely trying to defend our rights and values, and restore rule of law based on the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In that light there's President Trump, definitely not perfect, but I believe he's sincere in his desire to "Make American Great Again." So he gets my support and vote. Had Cruz won I would have supported him despite not entirely trusting him, also had Rand Paul won, although not as good as his father in my opinion I would have enthusiastically supported him. But most of the rest no. Not because they're not perfect, but because I believe they would act against my interests and that of the Country.
Don't blame Conservatives for not voting for these terrible candidates blame the GOP. I'm also sorry to tell you that if you've been supporting some of these candidates in the past the dirty business your involved in is voting for the enemy and your own demise.
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