Most 'gun' state in the USA?

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I have a friend traveling from the UK to Vegas to get married. I bought him a pistol class with a range out there I get on with, and he declined because he wanted to 'stay away from guns' in the post Charlie Kirk situation.

I thought to myself 'good luck pal, you're in the gunniest state in America', then wondered how accurate that really is.

I'm just a dumb Brit, so I know a little bit but not much depth. Off top of my head, I thought AZ was pretty free when it comes to guns - is full auto still legal there? (edit it's Nevada, of course it is! Duh)

Then I thought maybe TX because FREEDOM and so on.

Then I thought TN has a pretty rich history in firearms too.

Does MA win because of the armoury?

So, which state is the most 2a, and why?
 
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It really depends on the metric people want to use. You can go by the total volume of guns, the per capital amount, the laws and restrictions (or lack thereof), or a few other things.

All things considered it's a pretty frivolous thing to argue about but people still do it.
 
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alamo5000 said:
It really depends on the metric people want to use. You can go by the total volume of guns, the per capital amount, the laws and restrictions (or lack thereof), or a few other things.

All things considered it's a pretty frivolous thing to argue about but people still do it.
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Well, yeah, that's kind of what I was hoping for - suggestions for a state followed by the reasons. Not an argument, a conversation! 😁
 
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Yah MA is pretty anti-2A (anti-Constitutional Rights).

Oregon, where we live is headed that way. Sadly. Interestingly enough full auto, suppressors & other NFA stuff is still fine here.

I would imagine Nevada (Vegas is in Nevada) as pretty 2A friendly, along with many other States.
 
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In addition to Texas being gun friendly, the state does not require a tax stamp or approval to make and use a suppressor in the state. However, you would not be able to sell or buy stamp-free suppressors in Texas stores because those companies are not interested in losing their FFL status over teh suppressor argument.

By the way, notice that in several mass shootings we have had over the past few years, how many had suppressors? And even with suppressors, how would anyone not have heard the activity?

Then, again, how many people have been able to hijack a plane with only a utility knife (but I digress)?
 
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Doing my part said:
I have a friend traveling from the UK to Vegas to get married. I bought him a pistol class with a range out there I get on with, and he declined because he wanted to 'stay away from guns..."
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Probably the prudent thing to do for a foreign national.

He's about to undergo the very life - changing ritual of matrimony...

...which he probably wouldn't want to mess up with a violation as insignificant as a traffic violation or inebriation in a foreign country at this point.
 
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Edsel said:
Probably the prudent thing to do for a foreign national at this point.

He's about to undergo the very life - changing ritual of matrimony...

...which he probably wouldn't want to mess up with a violation as insignificant as a traffic violation or inebriation in a foreign country at this point.
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To the OP, most states outside of the Northeast, California, Hawaii, and Illinois are pretty gun friendly. In most of those you can CCW via Constitutional carry or you'll have reciprocity with a CCW from your home state into another state. Many States are suppressor and full-auto friendly. I'm in Ohio and can shoot F/A Thompsons or anything else in the backyard. I'm in a township, across the street from a city park.

In much of the US, there is about a zero chance of success for any foreign invader to sustain troops here. Firearms number about 500+ million in a country of less than 400 million ppl.

To be honest, we do have too much gun violence - much of that is urban and cultural in nature. Areas I tend to avoid, but am always armed when travelling through.
 
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SanPatHogger said:
Texas isn't even in the top half?

Maine and Vermont ARE in the top half? That just doesn't seem right.
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I believe it's guns sold per capita.

We win because while only 60% of people have them, we all have a few...

Texas has an often overlooked giant chunk of metropolitan areas where ownership is low, and a large amount of people only owning a handful.
 
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Doing my part said:
I have a friend traveling from the UK to Vegas to get married. I bought him a pistol class with a range out there I get on with, and he declined because he wanted to 'stay away from guns' in the post Charlie Kirk situation.

I thought to myself 'good luck pal, you're in the gunniest state in America', then wondered how accurate that really is.

I'm just a dumb Brit, so I know a little bit but not much depth. Off top of my head, I thought AZ was pretty free when it comes to guns - is full auto still legal there?

Then I thought maybe TX because FREEDOM and so on.

Then I thought TN has a pretty rich history in firearms too.

Does MA win because of the armoury?

So, which state is the most 2a, and why?
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Your friend is logically unsound. That is the important point in this conversation, not some anecdotal 2nd amendment discussion. I know the water gets deep real quick, but living in a dream world only works until reality imposes its will on a life. Choose whether or not you want to participate in the fantasy your friend lives everyday. No need for confrontation, just drift away from those who do not have the ability to add support during “ unscheduled reality drills”.
 
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Follow this magazine: Guns & Ammo. They normally produce an annual list of "50 best states for gun owners." You can compare them from year to year. Nevada is usually on the "friendlier end of the spectrum." I would think that the Charlie Kirk incident would foster the need for greater gun education. Your friend's logic doesn't seem right, but it is his choice. I'd do my best to have him reconsider.

On a somewhat related matter, I am curious as to how many LEOs in the UK are AFO's (Authorized Firearm officer) and how easy is it to get that credential....
 
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candymannetje said:
In which state is open carry legal?
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WIki: Open Carry in the United States...

Florida (my state) just became the latest to have Open carry, when a Florida appeals court declared the ban on OC unconstitutional, and the current AG stated he would not challenge that decision. It's not "final" yet, but for now, we can open carry where we are able to carry in general. But there are rules.
 
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candymannetje said:
Yes mostly 100+ yards.
Some people consider 100 yards long range.
There is one range with 300 yards in the NL.
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Generally, we use 100 yards to "Zero" our scopes. But we go to 500, even 1000 yard ranges.

NL is really nice. I've actually been to the Northern region of the NL (Enkhiusen) And traveled on the trains from Amsterdam and Maastricht (also had a friend that lived in Oupeye, Belgium).
 
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Fx51LP308 said:
Generally, we use 100 yards to "Zero" our scopes. But we go to 500, even 1000 yard ranges.

NL is really nice. I've actually been to the Northern region of the NL (Enkhiusen) And traveled on the trains from Amsterdam and Maastricht (also had a friend that lived in Oupeye, Belgium).
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It is nice but its getting to crowded.
We have the most people per square mile in the EU.
 
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candymannetje said:
It is nice but its getting to crowded.
We have the most people per square mile in the EU.
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You also have more political freedoms than most other EU countries.

If I ever travel to EU again, I will most likely land at Schiphol and then travel to where I need to go (Luxembourg) by train, Problem being, I have to go through Belgium to get there. :eek: The America based airline "Jet Blue" offers "Mint/Studio" service to Schiphol from JFK. We'll see. The Mint Studio spaces are rather "competitive." Only 2 per aircraft/flight. It's possible that you could buy a Mint Studio seat, check in at the airport and then be told at the boarding gate that you've been "bumped" by someone else, even though you bought and paid for the seat (either they oversold the seats, or they have to placate a "celebrity/VIP" sort of person). We'll see.
 
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Fx51LP308 said:
You also have more political freedoms than most other EU countries.

If I ever travel to EU again, I will most likely land at Schiphol and then travel to where I need to go (Luxembourg) by train, Problem being, I have to go through Belgium to get there. :eek: The America based airline "Jet Blue" offers "Mint/Studio" service to Schiphol from JFK. We'll see. The Mint Studio spaces are rather "competitive." Only 2 per aircraft/flight. It's possible that you could buy a Mint Studio seat, check in at the airport and then be told at the boarding gate that you've been "bumped" by someone else, even though you bought and paid for the seat (either they oversold the seats, or they have to placate a "celebrity/VIP" sort of person). We'll see.
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If you come in September you might join the r&g here.
Plenty of foreigners join it.
 
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Leave europe(or anywhere) to get married in vegas? Am I the only one who thinks that’s weird?


Nevada is an atrocious state, please dont come here, nothing but rocks and rattlesnakes. On the gun front though, it’s pretty good. We lost face to face sales with the last governor, a dem, who lost his reelection bid to a republican (former sheriff of clark county/vegas). He’s been very pro 2a. Our legislature only convenes every other year, so potential bad things can only come at half speed. The state also swung red for this last presidential election. Moving in the right direction.
 
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Supersubes said:
Leave europe(or anywhere) to get married in vegas? Am I the only one who thinks that’s weird?
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Las Vegas is the "canonical" classic place to get married. Some will travel there to be married even when it is much less expensive to do it in their own state. It's in all the "movies," etc. I guess the bureaucracy is much easier. Likewise, Reno is the canonical place to get divorced (easier bureaucracy for it there as well).
 
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Fx51LP308 said:
Las Vegas is the "canonical" classic place to get married. Some will travel there to be married even when it is much less expensive to do it in their own state. It's in all the "movies," etc. I guess the bureaucracy is much easier. Likewise, Reno is the canonical place to get divorced (easier bureaucracy for it there as well).
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I know that's the thing for locals(immediate surrounding states), just seems ridiculous to travel from europe to go there.
 
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Supersubes said:
I know that's the thing for locals(immediate surrounding states), just seems ridiculous to travel from europe to go there.
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I would argue that it's not just "locals." I know of couples who elope from the East Coast there to get married. One in my family did so recently and none of us expected it. And, especially when there are marriage related attractions there like the "Elvis" chappel, the "Little Brown Church," etc. etc. There's even a "Drive through" Church where you don't even have to leave your car. I can see where that might actually appeal to some Europeans. And if they're also coming to tour Vegas, why not?
 
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hlee said:
Really? It shows Nevada as #22. 1/2 of 50 is 25… I know. Maff is hard…
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If you're going to go out of your way to try to make some random person on the Internet look/feel stupid you might want to make sure you actually know what you're talking about smart guy. It's listed as #22 from the BOTTOM. Hawaii is #1 on the list you're referring to. Overall, on the list of all 50 states, Nevada is ranked #29. Go be condescending somewhere else. 🙄
 
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candymannetje said:
I wanted to go to the UK for long range shooting.
No long ranges here in the Netherlands.
But I have semi automatic rifle and they are not allowed in the UK.
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If you find your way over here I'd be happy to take you to Orion who have a 1600y range. There is also Bisley but I have never shot there.

You're right, no S/A in centre fire, it's lame. We can arrange some good bolt actions without too much difficulty.
 
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Doing my part said:
I have a friend traveling from the UK to Vegas to get married. I bought him a pistol class with a range out there I get on with, and he declined because he wanted to 'stay away from guns' in the post Charlie Kirk situation.

I thought to myself 'good luck pal, you're in the gunniest state in America', then wondered how accurate that really is.

I'm just a dumb Brit, so I know a little bit but not much depth. Off top of my head, I thought AZ was pretty free when it comes to guns - is full auto still legal there? (edit it's Nevada, of course it is! Duh)

Then I thought maybe TX because FREEDOM and so on.

Then I thought TN has a pretty rich history in firearms too.

Does MA win because of the armoury?

So, which state is the most 2a, and why?
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Tell your friend, who you have so generously purchased class time, that shooting a firearm, being educated on the proper use of a firearm or merely being in the presence of a firearm will not magically transform him, or anyone else for that matter, into a deranged serial killer.
 
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