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Yeah, Giessele doesn't list the weight either. That price tag...
I agree, even if you could use their 35% off shot coupon it’s still a hefty couple stacks. I’m sure it’s a shooter and one day I’d love to own one but not in this economy 😂

Side note: Seems like their new thing is to introduce the new big updated products at a steep initial price for a few years. Then introduce slight tweak and bring the price down a bit. See 6 arc mags and the GFR mod 1 vs the original GFR pricing.
 
I don’t have the specific weight, but it’s light. Very noticeably lighter than a GA or Seekins SP10

This barrel profile, while maintaining the SOCOM accuracy requirement is a big deal. Especially for military or night shooters who will add silencers, clip ons, lasers, etc. up front.

Plenty of guys pay this much (street price is just over 6k) for KAC rifles all the time, and this beat KAC… Yes, I’m aware of why/how KAC dropped out, but the point still stands, and there’s absolutely no guarantee they would have won if that didn’t happen (they’ve lost others fair and square).

I don’t love the price, but why is 6k ok for KAC and not for the rifle that beat KAC (and everyone else)?
 
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I don’t have the specific weight, but it’s light. Very noticeably lighter than a GA or Seekins SP10

This barrel profile, while maintaining the SOCOM accuracy requirement is a big deal. Especially for military or night shooters who will add silencers, clip ons, lasers, etc. up front.

Plenty of guys pay this much (street price is just over 6k) for KAC rifles all the time, and this beat KAC… Yes, I’m aware of why/how KAC dropped out, but the point still stands, and there’s absolutely no guarantee they would have won if that didn’t happen (they’ve lost others fair and square).

I don’t love the price, but why is 6k ok for KAC and not for the rifle that beat KAC (and everyone else)?
Because KAC gives a reach around
 
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I don’t have the specific weight, but it’s light. Very noticeably lighter than a GA or Seekins SP10

This barrel profile, while maintaining the SOCOM accuracy requirement is a big deal. Especially for military or night shooters who will add silencers, clip ons, lasers, etc. up front.

Plenty of guys pay this much (street price is just over 6k) for KAC rifles all the time, and this beat KAC… Yes, I’m aware of why/how KAC dropped out, but the point still stands, and there’s absolutely no guarantee they would have won if that didn’t happen (they’ve lost others fair and square).

I don’t love the price, but why is 6k ok for KAC and not for the rifle that beat KAC (and everyone else)?
Have never seen any AR small or large frame shoot this accurate with this high of round counts before. These guns are worth every penny of $6k. I have seen a ton of rounds shot through them at competition and have a little time on one. They are spectacular.


KAC was always bleeding edge of tech. People pay for features that in 5-10 years become standard for everyone else. This rifle is the bleeding edge of AR tech right now. That's why it's worth it. You are getting something you can't get anywhere else and in time will probably change the landscape of ARs. Ironically they are doing something similar with their small frame GFR guns.
 
Have never seen any AR small or large frame shoot this accurate with this high of round counts before. These guns are worth every penny of $6k. I have seen a ton of rounds shot through them at competition and have a little time on one. They are spectacular.


KAC was always bleeding edge of tech. People pay for features that in 5-10 years become standard for everyone else. This rifle is the bleeding edge of AR tech right now. That's why it's worth it. You are getting something you can't get anywhere else and in time will probably change the landscape of ARs. Ironically they are doing something similar with their small frame GFR guns.

Hey! We agreed on something!!! 😀

I totally agree… assuming the performance demonstrated in the military testing isn’t invalidated (like the Sig pistols), I don’t regret the purcha$e in the slightest.

I’ve decked this thing out to the 9s, and the weight still seems reasonable. I’ll be testing a few things before giving my settled opinion. In the meantime, any insight info you can provide from your observations is appreciated.
 
Doubt you will get much info. Proprietary trade secrets and a bunch of tech baked into these guns. Plus manufacturing trade secrets.

I am sure stuff will trickle out eventually as people tear these down to inspect them and do destructive/ non destructive testing on components.

Just my uneducated observation/opinion.
 
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I don’t have a scale that would work for that, but it’s definitely lighter than Seekins, GA Precision, etc.

That was the first comment my FFL made, that he couldn’t believe how light it was compared to the competition.

The barrel profile appears too thin to accomplish what it does. The gun is “nose light” until you get some accessories on the front (silencer and bipod).

I suspect the difference between this and an SP10 in actual lbs won’t be huge, but it doesn’t take a lot to shift the perception from “bench gun” to “field gun”, especially if the weight is taken out of the right places.
 
Just got mine in… it’s 10.45lbs naked, not light but not overly terrible. Weights definitely biased towards the rear. It just topples when I place it on my TFCT, even on the most rearward arca slot with the mag well touching the tripod.

Field stripped it and cleaned out the bore. Bore was incredibly filthy for a new rifle — think Geissele QC sent 10-15 rounds to break it in and test accuracy/function. Took about 15 patches of boretech c4 and 15 patches of eliminator (+ some scrubbing with a nylon brush) before I was comfortable.

Muzzle device came off easy with standard SR25-pattern reaction rod; no heat or water soak needed with a 12 inch adjustable wrench. Chamber has feed ramps too, neat! Only gripe is that the gun didn't come with a magazine lol.
 

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Sorry you are too ignorant to understand one part is anodized al and the other is molded plastic.

Maybe they should just cerakote the whole gun so twinkletoe fairies can match their purse to their heels.

It's a fighting gun. Carrying about the looks on something that's gonna get scratched and dinged up via use and most likely spray painted just shows you aren't a shooter...your a complainer.

70k vehicle? Is it used? Go be poor somewhere else.
 
Anyone interested in me reviewing the MRGG here on the Hide???

I'll talk to Geissele and see if they'd be willing to have me review one if y'all are interested, maybe conducting a in debt review and accuracy evaluation will help some of the members here if they're on fence about making that kind of purchase.

Give a 👍 if you'd like me to evaluate the Geissele MRGG.
 
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Anyone interested in me reviewing the MRGG here on the Hide???

I'll talk to Geissele and see if they'd be willing to have me review one if y'all are interested, maybe conducting a in debt review and accuracy evaluation will help some of the members here if they're on fence about making that kind of purchase.
Will you be incorporating a scheme to evaluate how well each part matches, as well as how well the rifle compliments various ensembles?
 
Will you be incorporating a scheme to evaluate how well each part matches, as well as how well the rifle compliments various ensembles?

Your question is rather vague... do you have something specific in mind?

If you're referring to the Anandize color matching consistency, no that's not going to be the utmost concern on my mind.

I'll do a complete and comprehensive evaluation highlighting the individual Enhancements/Parts that set it apart from the rest of the pack, highlighting it's unique characteristics same as I've done with thier Cut Rifled SPR Barrels.

Obviously primarily focusing on Accuracy and Reliability. I will purchase the Geissele Night Owl Suppressor to compliment the rifle, as well as running my HuxWrx for more Data.
 
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Your question is rather vague... do you have something specific in mind?

If you're referring to the Anandize color matching consistency, no that's not going to be the utmost concern on my mind.

I'll do a complete and comprehensive evaluation highlighting the individual Enhancements/Parts that set it apart from the rest of the pack, highlighting it's unique characteristics same as I've done with thier Cut Rifled SPR Barrels.

Obviously primarily focusing on Accuracy and Reliability. I will purchase the Geissele Night Owl Suppressor to compliment the rifle, as well as running my HuxWrx for more Data.
You gotta start with post 19 in this thread…
 
Some care about that more than others (I care very little), but it doesn’t make someone less manly to prefer a certain aesthetic.

Jumping all over someone with personal attacks because they prefer better color coordination…

That does say something about you.
 
Anyone interested in me reviewing the MRGG here on the Hide???

I'll talk to Geissele and see if they'd be willing to have me review one if y'all are interested, maybe conducting a in debt review and accuracy evaluation will help some of the members here if they're on fence about making that kind of purchase.

Give a 👍 if you'd like me to evaluate the Geissele MRGG.
I'd love to see some in-depth reviews before spending that kind of cash. I don't care about color matching but it better perform for that price.
 
Some care about that more than others (I care very little), but it doesn’t make someone less manly to prefer a certain aesthetic.

Jumping all over someone with personal attacks because they prefer better color coordination…

That does say something about you.
Bitching about the color coordination of a COMBAT weapon that beat out every other large frame AR on the market by a country mile is some gay ass shit.

The same queers bitched about the SCAR 17 coloring.

Its been explained a million times over the years its almost impossible to get color matching between anodized parts, so much so every batch comes out wildly different. Its not a manufacturing defect, its physics and chemistry. Then add in other coated parts made of steel and injection molded plastic you are always going to have variation of color. The only way around this is to cerakote the entire gun that just raises cost as you still have to do type 2 or 3 anodizing to protect the AL which in its raw state is very susceptible to gouges, dings ,ect. It can also create reliablility issues as cerakote gets in crevices that have to be accounted for. You cool with adding another $500-1000 to the cost? These guns are almost always going to be spray painted so the FDE is really just a base layer as it wears.

So yea I will call it out as I see it. To infer the company is putting out a lessor product because ignorant fools don't understand how these guns are made or how they are used should be refuted. Feelings should be hurt. Fuck em.
 
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I'd love to see some in-depth reviews before spending that kind of cash. I don't care about color matching but it better perform for that price.
Just buy it while you can. They are the real deal. I have seen em run and kick ass on the range for the last year plus. Some VERY respected guys are running them. If I had the disposable income, i would be buying one right now too. I just dont have $12K sitting around (Gun, optic, can, accessories) to drop on a new rifle system at the moment that I don't have a need for. Anyone who has seen or shot these will attest to them being legit. The price is tough to swallow but if you can afford it, you wont regret it. If not, the SP10 at half the price is also a great system with a better upper/rail lockup for positional shooting IMO. But it will never have the propietary features of the MRGGS. You are paying for cutting edge, tip of the spear tech.
 
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Bitching about the color coordination of a COMBAT weapon that beat out every other large frame AR on the market by a country mile is some gay ass shit.

The same queers bitched about the SCAR 17 coloring.

Its been explained a million times over the years its almost impossible to get color matching between anodized parts, so much so every batch comes out wildly different. Its not a manufacturing defect, its physics and chemistry. Then add in other coated parts made of steel and injection molded plastic you are always going to have variation of color. The only way around this is to cerakote the entire gun that just raises cost as you still have to do type 2 or 3 anodizing to protect the AL which in its raw state is very susceptible to gouges, dings ,ect. It can also create reliablility issues as cerakote gets in crevices that have to be accounted for. You cool with adding another $500-1000 to the cost? These guns are almost always going to be spray painted so the FDE is really just a base layer as it wears.

So yea I will call it out as I see it. To infer the company is putting out a lessor product because ignorant fools don't understand how these guns are made or how they are used should be refuted. Feelings should be hurt. Fuck em.

Most of us know all that and are on board with the situation… we just know how to not be a little twerp while communicating it.
 
Just got mine in… it’s 10.45lbs naked, not light but not overly terrible. Weights definitely biased towards the rear. It just topples when I place it on my TFCT, even on the most rearward arca slot with the mag well touching the tripod.

Field stripped it and cleaned out the bore. Bore was incredibly filthy for a new rifle — think Geissele QC sent 10-15 rounds to break it in and test accuracy/function. Took about 15 patches of boretech c4 and 15 patches of eliminator (+ some scrubbing with a nylon brush) before I was comfortable.

Muzzle device came off easy with standard SR25-pattern reaction rod; no heat or water soak needed with a 12 inch adjustable wrench. Chamber has feed ramps too, neat! Only gripe is that the gun didn't come with a magazine lol.

Thats almost identical weight to the LaRue MRGG I picked up last year, it will be a interesting comparison.

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I've got the Larue MRGG dialed in pretty well, and to give credit where credit is due it has performed quite well suppressed and is an honest .75 MOA Rifle with Factory Ammo.

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