If you can afford to shoot competitively you can afford a can. That's not the thing keeping people from using them. It's the lack of recoil reduction with a can, even the modern ones like the mav and new TB can ( which I have on order like many others). You are still sacrificing speed back on target. It can be managed but not everybody knows how. You can get a good can for 500-600 bucks. Otter creek, kgm, ect. Flow through designs are less important for bolt guns anyway.
I've got a 6x35x56 scope and mirage sucks. I have to dial it way down in heavy mirage so the 36 magnification is useless in Florida Summers. This time of year is fantastic here, but when Summer comes knockin' this place is downright jungle.
@Denys is an F-class shooter and swears by March’s newest scopes that magically cut through mirage. Some 8-80 model, specifically.
That’s pretty cool!
Found a vid of his. Go to about 3:25 when he starting talking about the benefits of his brake.
I run an APA brake and it is VERY effective. However, apparently it's pretty obnoxious to others. It makes no difference to me as the shooter with concussion as the gas is not pointed in my direction.
Sounds like you hit the trifecta of ear abuse. You're probably f'd as I likely am.
Suppressors are just vanity items you elitist jerk muscle breaks should be mandatory for all center fire! Where do you live I'm coming to your range to share my new brake blast with you?!
That's an interesting way to look at things.
I think it's all relative. I still have excellent hearing and I want to keep it that way as much as possible. I shoot suppressed only with squishy ear plugs plus over the ear. When it gets super loud with boomers and brakes I just try to move down and get away from it, but I have the same experience with muzzle blast it's physically tiring to me. There are times I just decide to pack it in and do something else when there are half a dozen brakes hammering. Just gotta adapt.
It was facetious I was just busting lash's chops a bit. Brakes, cans whatever.....everyone gotta do what floats their boat.
Understood
LOL! Kind of like modern day football. Not compatible with the human body? !
Ha I know I'm missing out, but I'm going to keep trying to keep these ears intact as long as possible. My dad bless his heart he's recently gone to the 80dB club from his audiologist last test which is on the margin of legally deaf. His Phonak ear buds are a blessing for chatting on the phone, but I want to avoid going anywhere near where he is with hearing loss. He doesn't even want to come shoot with us any longer after that last day with the braked 338 when he left earlyHey now, piss poor, damaged hearing has its benefits.
The blast isn't as bad.
The after effect ringing is already there, so you get used to it.
Cicada and cricket noise doesn't exist.
Alarms aren't as loud.
Christmas bell ringing people (Salvation Army) look like they are just trying to get feeling back in their arms.
You can get away with ignoring people most of the time.
Selective hearing has its benefits...
Wut?
21 years on the flightline, and three years in a desalination plant takes its toll.
(He does he loves all you guys to pieces just not with the aforementioned). Hoping I can find a way to get him somewhere near where he lives where he can shoot his subsonic canned gasser one of these days....heck all he needs is 50 yards.
I just bought that ATS and should have it in a day or two. I'd check into that MDT but can't afford to be a brake evaluator. LOL When I start looking at something promising, my urge to purchase it often wages war with my budget and common sense.
I can understand those conflicts.
Right now I'm running an APA Little Bastard. A highly effective brake for barrel jump and recoil on my 7RM. I doubt the ATS can match it, but if it comes pretty close I'll sacrifice a slight decrease in performance to keep people's hats on who are firing next to me.
A thoughtful approach, sir. Respect.
I might disagree with this assertion. While "yes" it does primarily re-direct blast, it also creates a lot of turbulence and that turbulence causes noise. As with all things, I'd like proof, so I'll just leave it as I don't know either way, but I suspect they do increase overall noise as well as re-direct blast.
We're getting old, brother...and now need more prosthetics....hearing aids, reading glasses, knee braces and.....LOL
Man isn't that the truth. I have two titanium hips and I'm only 55. LOL
There's my high dollar recoil pad right there.
LOL...whatever it takes, brother. They are tools...yeah, we like them to look good. But, end of the day and to my mind, function beats all and being knocked to crap by recoil isn't helping function.There's my high dollar recoil pad right there.
Yeah I'm not opposed to that. It's just really hard to remove the hill jack from my DNA at times. I'll admit that. LOL
This will sound all "technically" but one of the things that tough is "What do we mean by louder" Shooter, Observer at 90 degrees? Observer at 0 degrees? They may not all agree
What is your profession that commanded 12 years of CQB training?There's no doubt I probably have it. CQB training for 12 years definitely pokes ya in the chops. However, I attribute most of my short term memory loss to injuries I suffered doing stupid shit when I was younger. I probably had multiple concussions from racing dirt bikes, crashing my bicycle as a kid (we didn't wear helmets back then) and no one knew about concussions. After a crash, you took a minute to figure out where you were, shook it off and got back on the damned thing.
If I don't write something down, I will forget it. This gets me into a lot of trouble with the ladies.
God, I hate acronyms! I think some people make them up as they go. What/who is " CQB " ??
Close Quarters Battle. The standard definition of cqb.
Thank you sir. When I was working for the Missouri Department of Mental Health, you could get two long time state employees together and I swear they could carry on a conversation within which every other word really wasn`t a word but an acronym! Drove me to distraction!
Every industry thrives on them these days. It really helps when someone can or will send you a list/key, however informal.
Is this a bad time to bring up my patented “flip-flop” mod? A .338LM with a stock too short by 1”. Solution? A pair of dollar store 1” thick foam girls flip-flops. Cut, grind to fit, 100mph tape to existing stock and butt plate.
