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Suppressors My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

CountryBoy19

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Ok, I finally got around to getting some pics up from my Form 1 .30 cal suppressor.

A lot of initial pictures are missing because of a brain fart on my part, but I'll show what I can. I made simple cones by shearing SS circles into quarters. I then rolled each quarter into a half cone on a sheet metal break. Then welded 2 halves together to make a cone. I then placed that cone onto a mandrel on a lathe and I cleaned up the rear edge and the welds.
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I took the cone off the mandrel and held it in the jaws to clean up the leading edge and center drill the hole.
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I then cut sections of stainless tubing and chamfered the edges so the cones would sit nicely together and the whole assembly would stack up. I clamped this all in a fairly robust jig and carefully spot welded it all so that it wouldn't warp much.
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After welding, I chucked the whole thing up between centers and I cleaned the welds up.
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There was a little bit of warping so all the welds didn't clean up perfectly without cutting too deep on the other side. I cleaned the rest of them up with an angle grinder.
After the welds were cleaned up I rolled a shorter piece of sheet metal to create and extra layer of steel on the back and welded it in place (no pic of this, sorry). This gives me 2 times the wall thickness in the rear, higher pressure area of the suppressor.
After that I put it in the lathe between centers and clean up the remainder of the welds, threaded it, and center bored it (.340 at the rear, up to .370 at the front) with a special boring tool that I made.
Then, I took it home and mounted it to see how it all looked.
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I stamped the sweet, rounded end-cap on a press with a set of dies that I made.

After that I called up a friend and he did some AWESOME engraving for me for really cheap! (I'll try to get a pic of the engraving later).

Then I began to prime it with VHT ceramic primer.
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And the first coat of primer is currently drying.

After the primer will be a sanding job to smooth out some of the rough spots from grinding it, then another primer, then the paint, then the baking.

The best part is that it actually works. My best friend, and fraternity brother was up from Titusville, FL for homecoming so we went shooting last weekend. After he took a few shots, he turned around and said, "That is really awesome, you need to get your license and start manufacturing these!" That means a lot to me coming from an engineer and avid shooter that works at KAC (Knights Armament Co.).

I already know how to improve the design and make it much more aesthetically appealing. This one could be called the prototype, or proof of concept.

The Specs:
Length: 10" I think (I'll measure it when its dry)
Diameter: 1 7/8" rear half, 1 3/4" front half
Weight: about 25 oz.
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude that looks great, man I wish I had a lathe</div></div>

I wish I knew how to use one!! Been thinking of buying one, but then I'd never get anything else done.

Nice work, looks great!!
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

That lookes great and a satisfing feeling doing it yourself. I have some ideas of my own to try, how long did it take to get a form 1 now? Thanks Eddie
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fritzcat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That lookes great and a satisfing feeling doing it yourself. I have some ideas of my own to try, how long did it take to get a form 1 now? Thanks Eddie </div></div>
It was done on a trust. Forms sent April 13th, received July 14th. So right at 3 months.
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

Looks interesting. When I first started making sielncers on form 1's, l I tried stamping baffles out of sheet metal. I could not get them the way I wanted, so I gave up and machined them. It takes me 1-2 hours per baffle now on a hobby lathe depending if it is aluminum or steel. I can get down to about 10 thousands thick If I want, but the baffles are normally .070" to .025".

I have yet to try welding the baffles togther as I do not have a jig to keep them from warping, so they are just press fit.

Ranb
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ranb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks interesting. When I first started making sielncers on form 1's, l I tried stamping baffles out of sheet metal. I could not get them the way I wanted, so I gave up and machined them. It takes me 1-2 hours per baffle now on a hobby lathe depending if it is aluminum or steel. I can get down to about 10 thousands thick If I want, but the baffles are normally .070" to .025".

I have yet to try welding the baffles togther as I do not have a jig to keep them from warping, so they are just press fit.

Ranb </div></div>

I tried stamping them first. It doesn't work, especially with SS (it work hardens very quickly). I would imagine that it could be done in a factory that is set up to deep draw SS, but not on a hydraulic press in a work-shop. I have a lot of small scraps of SS sheet and I don't have bar-stock so for me I did it this way so that I could use material that I have and not have to buy material. I would say that I have about 30-45 minutes in each baffle once I got the process figured out.

My method for making this can was much more "primitive" than some might think. At one point a few baffles were warped after welding one side, so out came the hammer and the anvil to get the seam on the other side to line up right. But it all worked in the end and I am very satisfied with the outcome.

Next will be an integrally Ruger 22/45, but I don't even have the host gun yet so it may be a while.
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CountryBoy19</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My method for making this can was much more "primitive" than some might think. At one point a few baffles were warped after welding one side, so out came the hammer and the anvil to get the seam on the other side to line up right. </div></div>

If it works it works. My first few cans have a rough finish and look ugly, but fit and work well. I would sugggest that in the future you make the blast baffle twice as thick as the rest as it gets much more abuse being so close to the muzzle. Since you can't replace a part without paying another tax (except wipes) unless you are an SOT, making the blast baffle thicker is good insurance. Taking apart a welded can can be very difficult. I did that once just to check on the baffles, it was not fun.
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Ranb
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ranb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would sugggest that in the future you make the blast baffle twice as thick as the rest as it gets much more abuse being so close to the muzzle.
Ranb </div></div>

Sorry, I guess I didn't completely explain the blast baffle area of the can. It what I was call a "ported tube" 2 inches long and 1/8" thick. This tube is the part that is threaded. Then, mounting that to the outer tube is the rear end cap, and the blast baffle at the other end. The blast baffle is a 3/16" thick flat baffle. If thats hard to understand imagine taking a muzzle break, adding a flat round plate to both ends of it, then slip the outer tube over it. That is like my blast baffle/blast chamber.

BTW, I thought that for a Form 1 can that you manufactured, you were considered the manufacturer and could replace parts. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, It'd be really tough to replace any parts on this one, its welded up pretty tight. There is no way to take it apart without totally destroying it, except maybe bore it out from one end, then plug weld baffles back into it.
 
Re: My Form 1 30 cal suppressor build (w/ pics)

Nope, sad but true; you get to make one set of parts only. You can make repairs that do not involve replacing parts, making new parts, changing the bore or lengthening the can. The only repairs I have had to make are so far are returning bent baffles and end caps to their original shape after a baffle strike and applying additional paint to an overheated can.

Ranb