Need a rail plus rings for a ZCO 5 to 27. Suggestions?

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Remington 700 SA going into a MPA Matrix chassis.

I was thinking of having between 10 and 20 extra MOA, thoughts?

I was looking at the MPA for the rings, as I need to order the stock through them as well.
 
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I would use something in the Badger, Nightforce quality range. There a many quality rails on the market. I run 20 moa on all my rifles.
 
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upsdownsideways said:
Its not being switched.

And I did look, but at $410 I am not sure if that is a bit overkill.
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Overkill? Yet, you're buying a ZCO...

Your money, I get it... but if I was buying a ZCO I would make damn sure that the rings I'm putting them inside are top-notch.

And FWIW, I run 40 MOA total for my ZCOs and have 29.5 mils of elevation.
 
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They recommend between 40 and 50 MOA on the rails/mount to use with the 5x27. I have 40 MOA on mine, same as you.

NiteQwill said:
Overkill? Yet, you're buying a ZCO...

Your money, I get it... but if I was buying a ZCO I would make damn sure that the rings I'm putting them inside are top-notch.

And FWIW, I run 40 MOA total for my ZCOs and have 29.5 mils of elevation.
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NiteQwill said:
Overkill? Yet, you're buying a ZCO...

Your money, I get it... but if I was buying a ZCO I would make damn sure that the rings I'm putting them inside are top-notch.

And FWIW, I run 40 MOA total for my ZCOs and have 29.5 mils of elevation.
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I have no qualms about paying for quality, but sometimes the quality is a bit overpriced for what you get in relation to other items.
 
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upsdownsideways said:
I have no qualms about paying for quality, but sometimes the quality is a bit overpriced for what you get in relation to other items.
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I don't understand... so you're saying Spuhr is overpriced? lol

You're buying a nearly $4k piece of glass... let that settle in for a second. Spuhr mounts are used by the top competitors in the world with results. For how they're made and what you DO get with them (modularity, strength, etc.), I think they're actually underpriced.
 
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NiteQwill said:
I don't understand... so you're saying Spuhr is overpriced? lol

You're buying a nearly $4k piece of glass... let that settle in for a second. Spuhr mounts are used by the top competitors in the world with results. For how they're made and what you DO get with them (modularity, strength, etc.), I think they're actually underpriced.
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you obviously havent seen all the threads on here about failed sphur mounts
 
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Sniperwannabee said:
you obviously havent seen all the threads on here about failed sphur mounts
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Spuhr fixed this in their Gen 2 (existing) mounts. They had no issues replacing any and all mounts (caused by a bad screw spacing). This is a non-issue. If you can link a recent failure, I would like to know.
 
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NiteQwill said:
Spuhr fixed this in their Gen 2 (existing) mounts. They had no issues replacing any and all mounts (caused by a bad screw spacing). This is a non-issue. If you can link a recent failure, I would like to know.
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thats good to know, i think @upsdownsideways was trying to say that there are just as good mounts with a better track record at a better price point than the ever so popular sphur
 
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Sniperwannabee said:
not trying to mess with you @NiteQwill or start an argument but did you see the rant in the bear pit last week
hilarious
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/spuhr-is-over-rated-prove-me-wrong.7037265/
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Roger that, Chief. I try to avoid The Bear Pit... lol. It... can... turn toxic. haha

But I will certainly read it. Lots of times issues (with any mounts) is due to improper mounting techniques in my experience. I've f*cked up a mount before because of my ignorance, so I'm not immune.
 
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NiteQwill said:
I don't understand... so you're saying Spuhr is overpriced? lol

You're buying a nearly $4k piece of glass... let that settle in for a second. Spuhr mounts are used by the top competitors in the world with results. For how they're made and what you DO get with them (modularity, strength, etc.), I think they're actually underpriced.
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I never said they were, I obviously don't know much about them and I was inquiring as to what their worth is.
 
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Here's the basic math for you :)

With my 300 NM AXSR, 20 MOA rail and 20 MOA in the mount (40 MOA total) @ 200 yards uses a tad over 9 Mils on my ZCO 5x27 to zero. Leaving available about 26 Mils of elevation adjustment.

Starting with just 20 MOA in rail/base would require approximately 15 Mils to zero @ 200 yards. Leaving now only 20 additional Mils of elevation adjustment.

Using 50 MOA in the rail/base you'd get another 3 Mills of elevation.




tacops1 said:
How much would you get outta one with 20 moa
Rail built in on receiver? Why 40&50 moa? How far ya shooting ?
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