Oh and I'll add, I've now gone through a number of different barrel lengths in semi-autos - from 26" to 20" to 16" to 12". I really think with anything longer than 16" you rapidly hit a point of diminishing returns with this cartridge. Granted, I'm not using commercial ammo, so maybe that'll run better, but my own 103 ELD-X / 105 Hybrid / 109 LRHT loads don't see a significant boost in velocity past 16", at least not the 25fps / inch expectation you see with other rifle/cartridge combos. I just started shooting the 12" and it's crazy how a shorty can essentially perform like an old school full size Mk12.