on their site:
making a live announcement at 11EST on FB
The ZERO Reloading Press
DUE TO HIGH DEMAND, EXPECT PRESS PROCESSING TIME TO BE UP TO 5-10 BUSINESS DAYS
www.area419.com
making a live announcement at 11EST on FB
It’s single stage/manual progressive. I think it’s a 9 position turretSingle stage press for 1200 bucks?
It’s single stage/manual progressive. I think it’s a 10 position turret
Single stage press for 1200 bucks?
I figured they would have had a free floating shell holder. Surprised they are going away from this logic.
BTW did anyone catch the coupons they mentioned they were having some sales
But allows for the case to self-center into the die. I thought it was proven to reduce runout. guess not.
But there is going to be tolerances in Dies, shell holders, dirt accumulation etc.
Probably should let the guys at area419 know they are wasting their time then.....
Care to explain that?Free floating has inevitable slop.
Care to explain that?
Don't think the aluminum will be an issue. I watched the video on their FB page. It's at least twice as thick as a T7. If it's made from any of the 7XXX alloys, it'll be more than enough.
People tend to forget or not know there what can be done with aluminum:
ARTICLE: Advanced Aluminum Armor Alloys - Light Metal Age Magazine
Aluminum armor solutions have existed for 60 years. Aluminum producers have responded to new battle conditions by developing more advanced armor solutions.www.lightmetalage.com
Strictly for Area 419 fanboys like most of their nonsense.
They make some stuff worth the price, but most of their shit is for people who think more expensive means better.
Thats not an explanation.It’s self explanatory. It moves. It’s exists because the parts are not machined to a tight enough tolerance to work without slop.
It’s circa 1950 technology from a time when we didn’t have the ability to machine things to smaller tolerances.
Thats not an explanation.
What matters in the end is how the brass case is jammed inside the die.
Hey man, interested in knowing which of our stuff falls into this category. We have some products that are more expensive, but those also bear some sort of increased quality or value.Strictly for Area 419 fanboys like most of their nonsense.
They make some stuff worth the price, but most of their shit is for people who think more expensive means better.
I’ve never been shy to pay a premium price for reloading equipment, but $1200 seems steep. Don’t get me wrong, I know the machining is pricey especially since they’ve recently bought new equipment. The end goal is obviously to be as close to having zero tolerance loads as possible. This press is a step in the right direction to that. But then you almost need to upgrade the rest of your equipment otherwise the premium press’s tolerances won’t mean anything to the end product. Pretty soon a $1200 press means thousands of more dollars in upgrading other equipment IF a guy wants to do it right. Otherwise, something like a Co-Ax is very capable of single SD loads if the reloader is capable of it.
Right or wrong, that’s my opinion on it. I know some will agree and some won’t but it’s an open forum and that’s my input.
Oh cool we have area 419 here.Hey man, interested in knowing which of our stuff falls into this category. We have some products that are more expensive, but those also bear some sort of increased quality or value.
I’ve never been shy to pay a premium price for reloading equipment, but $1200 seems steep. Don’t get me wrong, I know the machining is pricey especially since they’ve recently bought new equipment. The end goal is obviously to be as close to having zero tolerance loads as possible. This press is a step in the right direction to that. But then you almost need to upgrade the rest of your equipment otherwise the premium press’s tolerances won’t mean anything to the end product. Pretty soon a $1200 press means thousands of more dollars in upgrading other equipment IF a guy wants to do it right. Otherwise, something like a Co-Ax is very capable of single SD loads if the reloader is capable of it.
Right or wrong, that’s my opinion on it. I know some will agree and some won’t but it’s an open forum and that’s my input.
Oh cool we have area 419 here.
Hey could you explain where the tolerances come into play ? From what I understand by the end of the day shell holder jams the brass in the die.
Can you explain to me where the tolerances come into play? Not being facetious here, I am just curious.
Seems like they do a lot of maching in this press, to only "Using factory shellholders there will be a small amount of float available to account for uncontrollable 3rd party tolerances." That just seems (to me anyways) counter intuitive. You machine to .0005" tolerance on the ram....and then allow "a small amount of float"?
I mean, how much is "a small amount"?
I like their products and all, but....??? It seems contradictory to me.
Dave addressed it already but in the release video they said they would have made their own that are completely captured by the time they get to shipping.Seems like they do a lot of maching in this press, to only "Using factory shellholders there will be a small amount of float available to account for uncontrollable 3rd party tolerances." That just seems (to me anyways) counter intuitive. You machine to .0005" tolerance on the ram....and then allow "a small amount of float"?
I mean, how much is "a small amount"?
I like their products and all, but....??? It seems contradictory to me.