I don't care what anyone thinks. The PLX C 1-8 is the best I ever owned as far as eyebox forgivness/ light weight/ compactness ect: ect:
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Man, as uncool as SFP is around here, I definitely have a use case for this. DFP would really be the holy grail though.
To be fair the NX8, optically, is a pretty low bar.I don't care what anyone thinks. The PLX C 1-8 is the best I ever owned as far as eyebox forgivness/ light weight/ compactness ect: ect:
I liked mine over the NX8, but I just couldn't get over that chevron center. It's just me I know
This thing should sell like crazy to tards like me who don't like the chevron.
Not just you. It’s why I haven’t bought one. Dimitri and his chevrons.I don't care what anyone thinks. The PLX C 1-8 is the best I ever owned as far as eyebox forgivness/ light weight/ compactness ect: ect:
I liked mine over the NX8, but I just couldn't get over that chevron center. It's just me I know
This thing should sell like crazy to tards like me who don't like the chevron.
There definitely is a case for them. Not quite the same thing but my 1.5-8 Razor LH is a scope that that I just can't find any suitable replacement for (I have 2). It's just so good on a SBR .300 BLK for Short Range deer hunting in the SE. The 1" tube is really uncool...but it works and the G4-BDC is absolute money in the woods.
This is was my very first thought.
But are you concerned about hitting the IPSC head, or a 6” circle where the vitals would be on that 12x20 steel?
For me on a just right tripod with arca rail I was able to make head shots and can hit a target 6inch in size with my bcm in the photo using black hills 77 grain otm out to 200 yds, I have not tried 300 yds. But for 300 yd heads hots and beyond I have different rifle and scope set up for that.
I have two of them as well and for similar reasons. They also work great with thermal clipons.
Use mine with a NV and thermal clip-on often. Man that reticle is great..thank you for that, you helped with it right?
The reticle originated as my idea, except I wanted it with 0.5mrad and 1 mrad holds and center illuminated dot. They decided to have it match their standard BDC holds. In the 3-15x50 HD-LHT, the dot did get illuminated, but lower power models did not make it to Gen2 wince 3-15x model outsold everything.
A 12x20 target at 300 yards isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
The other poster was just giving an example of his recent shooting experience. Not that it wasn't capable of hitting smaller targets at that distance.
I shoot my PLx Griffin out to 600 on 2/3 IPSC and 10” plate as well as various other targets closer in, in incremental distances. 77 SMK 5.56. It’s fun.
Got to say, based on the reticle options you posted I think I could be proficient with any of them ! I know you say ringing steel on a 12x20 target isn't any big deal, and in some cases i agree . But when you add in calisthenics, burpees, sprints, kettle bell swings to get the heart pumping and use a shot timer I think you might find ringing steel at 300 yds a little more challenging when your out of breath ! And for me the plxc griffin mill worked well with the chevron with this type of training ! Past 300 yds out to 500yds I stop using the chevron and start holding over using the tree reticle, which I ring steel pretty easily as well. It just takes more time to make accurate shots at distance !
While I'm typically a FFP/MRAD purest I don't get too wrapped around the axle on guns that are more suited to zeroing at a suitable MPBR anyways. In that case, I'm just looking for something both draws my eye quickly and works in low light. I much prefer that G4 to any heavy duplex I have seen.
That was the original idea. I wanted a fairly fine dot with about half mrad of space around it for when you need precision, but in low light I wanted it illuminated. The thick lines need to start pretty close to the center though. If you need to make a quick shot, tapers converging ont he center from both sides really help. I had the 1.5-8x32 on my muzzleloader a couple years ago and shot a cow elk at just over 300 yards, so the holdover marks were pretty useful as well. Still, this reticle was never intended for shooting too far out.
That's why I specified "optically."
My Steiner 1-4 has a bigger dent than those and is still ticking right along. Covered the end with a vortex rubber defender cap and now you can't see the dent.
This is definitely the one reason I haven't talked myself into one. For my uses I don't even like horseshoes. I had hoped the yards version would have the horseshoe shrink to small dot size and that I could get over the chevron but I'm just not sure I can.
The chevron: so good that every branch of service ditched it from their current optics.
I can't say I disagree. But in a perfect situation I would rather take that shot with my nf atacr mil xt reticle dialed in. Here is a pic of the razor gen 3 1-10 ebr9 mrad reticle , is the circle really that much better than the chevron in this situation? I think maybe a little but not that much.
Fair. I’m not a huge fan of circles like that either. I think Vortex made mistakes with that reticle, like not running the thick crosshairs all the way to the edge on low mag. I do think Vortex’s circle is still less obtrusive than a thick chevron. And you still get that precise dot aiming point rather than an uncertain chevron tip.
What’s weird about living somewhere with range, such as in Wyoming where quick running shots on coyotes at 200 and beyond are routine? Its usage case thing. I’m not doing CQB from my SxS
Maybe "weird" isn't the right word, but why have a 1x capable scope for that use case?What’s weird about living somewhere with range, such as in Wyoming where quick running shots on coyotes at 200 and beyond are routine? Its usage case thing. I’m not doing CQB from my SxS
Ever zoom out and zoom in order to do target ID? Or maybe you’ve drifted up into bear country while checking cattle/driving your SxS? Riding through a forest? Slap that bitch all the way down on magnification.
Uh, no. If I can ID something at 1x I'm not doing it through a scope while fiddling with the throw lever.
I have always had a hard time with scopes that high. When I use a scope I go prone and that high kills my neck. Red dots I am standing and moving so 2.03 or 1.93 are good.
Yeah, PA sent out the mount with the scope—wouldn’t have been my preference. On 1x running close range stuff it’s great though! Tempted to mount a piggyback dot just for shits and giggle
