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Nissan 08 frontier 4x4 V6

Rthur

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  • Apr 16, 2010
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    My daughter is currently driving the above.
    Had a issue a few days ago and took it to the shop.
    Pressure check on the coolant system shows bleed down.
    I'm thinking possible head gasket leak.
    There is coolant in the oil.
    Shop is saying possible cracked head or block.
    Anyone have any experience with this vehicle?

    R
     
    Tell them to quit being dicks and check the water pump. If it leaks it will leak into the oil. Repair procedure does not require timing cover removal. But if high mileage a new timing chain might not be a bad idea.
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    Real quick just to help you out and give you "food for thought"
    You have to look at flow and pressure differences in diag. The old headgasket/cracked head is used as a Cover for "we dont know"
    So that being an overhead cam engine there is a pressureized oil passage from the block to the head to lube the valve train. If some how the headgasket fail in such away as to connect that passage to a coolant passage then oil would actually go into the coolant as 99% of the time oil pressure is higher than coolant system pressure.
    It could be possible that the headgasket failed in away to connect coolant paasage to one of the oil drain passages from head to block that allows oil to drain back to the oil pan. But that is highly unlikely as they are designed to be as far from each other as possible.
    Cracked head is possible but rare and when it does happen it is a casting flaw. With "tolerances" being held to tight if there is a flaw like that they dont make 1 or 2 but 10,000 of thousands.
    (Ford makes almost 1,000,0000 cylinder heads a month). By tolerences I mean they think they have the procedure perfected and pound them out as fast as possible. If there is a defect they all have it until found. That is why you see recalls that involve millions of cars.
    With all of that I would say water pump is most likely casue. It has moving parts that wear. And coolant pressure is easily higher than crankcase pressure.
    It is one of those things that would get fixed by accident. "While we are in there we should replace your timing chain and water pump". And no one not even the mechanic is the wiser. He/she couldn't tell you exactly how they fixed it.
     
    That is one stupid ass water pump design. hopefully it is the water pump.

    For a head gasket leak or cracked block, typically you run a block test that uses a chemical that detects the presence of hydrocarbons (exhaust) in the coolant system. If the test is positive the only way is to tear it down.
     
    That is one stupid ass water pump design. hopefully it is the water pump.

    For a head gasket leak or cracked block, typically you run a block test that uses a chemical that detects the presence of hydrocarbons (exhaust) in the coolant system. If the test is positive the only way is to tear it down.
    Pretty common water pump design now a days. If you notice it has two o rings or "gaskets" which is not where they leak. they leak out the shaft seal.
    The GM quad 4 had a chain driven water pump that could fail the same way. it was released in 1987
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_4_engine
    I would say most if not all GM's 4 cylinders and few 6 cylinders, are that way. I know Ford has a couple, a few German vehicles I can think of. I can't think of a Toyota or Honda but Nissian and Mazda ARE NOT Toyota/ Honda. (that is just something I tell people who want a Jap car, but can afford toyota/honda)
    Also the "block test" you describe is only mildly helpful and with the info @Rthur posted it would be of no use. For it to work it the failure has to be in the combustion chamber. With the info provided, "water in coolant" that would not be detected with the block test tool.
    With today's turbos and blowers (technically turbos and blowers both fall under the definition of "supercharger"). The block test rarely works as most failures occur under boost/load due to increased cylinder pressure which make the test hard to do while driving.
     
    I almost guarantee it is the transmission cooler. I had an 05, I bought it just after the new radiator fixed. But if you look on the Internet there is a way to bypass it and just use an external oil cooler. If you want to do it yourself this is probably the least expensive way.
     
    I almost guarantee it is the transmission cooler. I had an 05, I bought it just after the new radiator fixed. But if you look on the Internet there is a way to bypass it and just use an external oil cooler. If you want to do it yourself this is probably the least expensive way.
    Except he is getting coolant in the engine.