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No More Fortnite

I was never "on a timer" when I played video games growing up. My dad and I would play Nintendo, Sega and playstation together. Many nights were spent playing Madden, Greatest Heavy Weights, Gran Turismo, Twisted Metal and some basketball games. I played when I wanted and for however long. Which wasnt all day. Maybe an hour or 2 at most. Then id go outside. Play basketball, football, shoot guns, go for a hike. Do whatever. I turned out fine.

I mostly play Sniper Elite ll now days.
 
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How's my credibility if I make the inconvenient observation that many children are unplanned surprises, usually resulting in a sub-nominal household financial situations, and causing strain on their parent's relationship and level of care. Relationships that if you don't bring the state into beforehand the child is thusly considered a bastard. 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher. Those are arguably shit odds a kid would ever grow up in a stable two-parent home. I can't mathematically determine is a ~60% success rate (at best) for your decision to raise a human life form in a rudimentary traditionally healthy sense "shit odds" or "being noble", but I'm not a dad because I wear rubbers so fuck me anways, right.

What I do instead is have a career in industrialized agriculture, I work for an efficiency and productivity consultation company. I've kept a keen eye on the notion that overpopulation is contributing to the downfall of society and the lack of personal accountability among the masses for their resources in that regard will inevitably lead to a manifold of extreme and undue species-wide stress very soon. Its effects are already gaining momentum— there are how many billion lives on this planet right now? So if you alternately had kids as a concise plan, congratulations we're in this mess because of people like you. I can prove mathematically that you're working directly counter to the species' best interest if having children in either case, but I genuinely don't give a two-hour shit at Jolly Pirate Donuts about how you raise them. I don't even care that you're wrong to have kids, just don't tell me you are right. Then again, I work in the business that helps find new ways to feed people so fuck me, I'm practically my own devil. Around here there seems to be a great bunch of dads, I'm not singling anyone out saying if you do this AFHV bullshit or pull cute jokes that you're a bad parent. What I am saying is that mother nature doesn't want more children.

As much as you might love being a parent I love not having an 18 year long sentence to dedicating 110% of my time and energy to raising a primal version of myself with greater capacity for both stupidity and intelligence while simultaneously crawling myself to the grave one grey ball hair at a time and jerking it to fucking babysitter hardcore because it's the one secret thing I didn't put in the porn filter. Somewhere along the way in fatherhood, probably early on, I'd figure out that life is essentially a pointless pursuit of certainty that is ultimately unattainable and unfulfilling, existence is suffering, happiness is just less suffering, karma does not exist, we all die alone, and the only thing that is every truly real is my inability to validate my own perspective with corroboration from any other members of my own species— even a genetically mutated version of my own self that I raise. The time would pass slowly and I would always know my offspring will eventually learn the same lessons. It would be an uncomfortable emotion, I would resign a great deal of stress to it. The state or gov will eventually own them just like they own you and me through the industrialized agriculture, medical, and utility infrastructure that allowed us to think screwing our way to the top of the monetary reward system food chain at such a rate of collective tangible inefficiency in the first place is just the natural order working flawlessly. America doesn't need children, it needs men.

If you think it's the best time in history to play daddy daycare then you're mistaken, and don't be so quick to tout being a parent as the end all be all of the virtuous and insightful decisions. My decision and responsibility to not have children is what gives me credibility as a contrasting point of view to this society of the spectacle coward orgy we call modern America. If my parents had been a bunch of chucklefucks all the time like in this Jimmy Kimmel shit I'd be a goddamn joke of a man. You think your kid needs to learn this Jimmy Kimmel shit from you? Really? I know you don't think any kid is set to sail through life never having to deal with shit like this, or when they do that it ends up in a shootout because you didn't annoy the fuck out of them enough at home. So why is this enriching instead of arbitrary patronizing, because your own intentions which a child (or any other human for that matter) would be willfully ignorant to due to the aforementioned dynamic of what I will call "fuckery"? I think you're playing over their heads with this one, that just my opinion. Fuck me right. I am ignorant to some things I admit that. I never understood a parent's ability to justify their impulse to inspire or encourage dependency for insight from the parents in the child, until I realize the parents see their kids as a reiteration and extension of themselves and their behaviour and thoughts reflect on them by default. Thus it is a "natural" perversion to justify manipulation and falsely engineered situations to instil and evoke trained responses, and potentially maladaptations, which lend their parents greater control over them while simultaneously "enriching" their understanding of foundational logic. Sickening, but natural. I don't see it working long term, I see it eventually eroding a great deal of credibility and confidence. They will pull away from that bullshit themselves I'm guessing, but again fuck me cause I'm not a dad, your kids aren't mine, and I'm losing my drunk after this diatribe.

Cue the guillotine for Cheyenne the Heartless Bachelor.

It splits the 10s and then doubles down ...

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Specifically speaking, I don't have a dog in this hunt. Generally speaking, we're all invested in this, having had kids or not.

When we had our first child/daughter, I was as wet behind the ears as anyone could be. I knew nothing, but I did have the committment to do the best parenting job that I could. There really isn't any formal education available to a first time parent, so, as a result, I was pretty ignorant about many things.

What I gained from becoming and being a parent was experience, not so much education. By definition, only a parent can gain that experience, a single childless person cannot. If someone were to ask my advice relative to parenting now, my answers would draw on my experience, not knowledge.

Our kids are grown adults and out of the house. I sometimes cringe when I see new or younger parents that seem to have the "I know it all" attitude. No, no you do not. There will be things that will happen in your life, relative to your children that you cannot anticipate and you will be completely unprepared for. I know people that have decided to not have children and a great deal of their reasoning has to do with their self admitted lack of knowledge and experience. I not only don't have a problem with that, I think they have brought some good insight into the decision. Conversely, they may be the type of people that have low self confidence and are intimidated with the possibility of "failure". I tell them that they will fail, guaranteed. Adjust for it, learn from it and move on.
 
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Such self loathing and distain for everything that doesn't fit into somebody's little idea of "the perfect order".
You kind of sound like you took a page from the Earth Worshiper's Carbon God worship hymnal.
Let me guess next chapter goes on about how we should all kill ourselves off for the good of the "Goddess planet?"

Having and raising children is one of the most important and most rewarding things you can do in life.
Yes, it takes a lot of time, effort and sacrifice to properly raise the next generation & help them grow into decent intelligent people.
Very little else you do will be as important in the long run as that.
Children are not little adults, their minds are fundamentally different from an adult because they are growing, learning & becoming who they will be. They need structure, support and boundaries to grow strong and sturdy so they have a good firm base to then be able to make their own decisions and observations as an adult.

I actually don't see where we disagree in your last paragraph.

As far as killing yourselves off for the goddess carbon planet or whatever, I have no formal stance. Personally, I see existence and non-existence as an incompatible comparison. I wouldn't adamantly buy stock in it, but fuck me I'm not a father. I suppose the phenomena of animate and conscious cell structures that perpetuate themselves in one form or another is not inherently precious, and that perception of value is mostly superficial due to a chemical reaction brought on by evolutionary imperatives relative only to that organism.

That ties in with how I don't care how you raise your kids. I just made an initial observation of the OP. This is not the PTA meeting, and I'm not treading on anyone's paternal dignity intentionally. If people want to qualify themselves for butthurt by default based on what I've said they are free to do so, but I don't hold these things over anyone's head in the slightest. I'm cool with everyone, if you don't like the shit I say then I'm sorry.

There are a few peripheral things I feel like I should point out as good coffee talk before I pass out. Jimmy Kimmel is just a heterosexual Chris Katan. If your child is over 5 feet tall then they are grown enough to be deadlifting and doing suicide sprints instead of playing damn video games. Sparkle will never be a gender so Veer stop trying to make it happen.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
 
How's my credibility if I make the inconvenient observation that many children are unplanned surprises, usually resulting in a sub-nominal household financial situations, and causing strain on their parent's relationship and level of care. Relationships that if you don't bring the state into beforehand the child is thusly considered a bastard. 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher. Those are arguably shit odds a kid would ever grow up in a stable two-parent home. I can't mathematically determine is a ~60% success rate (at best) for your decision to raise a human life form in a rudimentary traditionally healthy sense "shit odds" or "being noble", but I'm not a dad because I wear rubbers so fuck me anways, right.

What I do instead is have a career in industrialized agriculture, I work for an efficiency and productivity consultation company. I've kept a keen eye on the notion that overpopulation is contributing to the downfall of society and the lack of personal accountability among the masses for their resources in that regard will inevitably lead to a manifold of extreme and undue species-wide stress very soon. Its effects are already gaining momentum— there are how many billion lives on this planet right now? So if you alternately had kids as a concise plan, congratulations we're in this mess because of people like you. I can prove mathematically that you're working directly counter to the species' best interest if having children in either case, but I genuinely don't give a two-hour shit at Jolly Pirate Donuts about how you raise them. I don't even care that you're wrong to have kids, just don't tell me you are right. Then again, I work in the business that helps find new ways to feed people so fuck me, I'm practically my own devil. Around here there seems to be a great bunch of dads, I'm not singling anyone out saying if you do this AFHV bullshit or pull cute jokes that you're a bad parent. What I am saying is that mother nature doesn't want more children.

As much as you might love being a parent I love not having an 18 year long sentence to dedicating 110% of my time and energy to raising a primal version of myself with greater capacity for both stupidity and intelligence while simultaneously crawling myself to the grave one grey ball hair at a time and jerking it to fucking babysitter hardcore because it's the one secret thing I didn't put in the porn filter. Somewhere along the way in fatherhood, probably early on, I'd figure out that life is essentially a pointless pursuit of certainty that is ultimately unattainable and unfulfilling, existence is suffering, happiness is just less suffering, karma does not exist, we all die alone, and the only thing that is every truly real is my inability to validate my own perspective with corroboration from any other members of my own species— even a genetically mutated version of my own self that I raise. The time would pass slowly and I would always know my offspring will eventually learn the same lessons. It would be an uncomfortable emotion, I would resign a great deal of stress to it. The state or gov will eventually own them just like they own you and me through the industrialized agriculture, medical, and utility infrastructure that allowed us to think screwing our way to the top of the monetary reward system food chain at such a rate of collective tangible inefficiency in the first place is just the natural order working flawlessly. America doesn't need children, it needs men.

If you think it's the best time in history to play daddy daycare then you're mistaken, and don't be so quick to tout being a parent as the end all be all of the virtuous and insightful decisions. My decision and responsibility to not have children is what gives me credibility as a contrasting point of view to this society of the spectacle coward orgy we call modern America. If my parents had been a bunch of chucklefucks all the time like in this Jimmy Kimmel shit I'd be a goddamn joke of a man. You think your kid needs to learn this Jimmy Kimmel shit from you? Really? I know you don't think any kid is set to sail through life never having to deal with shit like this, or when they do that it ends up in a shootout because you didn't annoy the fuck out of them enough at home. So why is this enriching instead of arbitrary patronizing, because your own intentions which a child (or any other human for that matter) would be willfully ignorant to due to the aforementioned dynamic of what I will call "fuckery"? I think you're playing over their heads with this one, that just my opinion. Fuck me right. I am ignorant to some things I admit that. I never understood a parent's ability to justify their impulse to inspire or encourage dependency for insight from the parents in the child, until I realize the parents see their kids as a reiteration and extension of themselves and their behaviour and thoughts reflect on them by default. Thus it is a "natural" perversion to justify manipulation and falsely engineered situations to instil and evoke trained responses, and potentially maladaptations, which lend their parents greater control over them while simultaneously "enriching" their understanding of foundational logic. Sickening, but natural. I don't see it working long term, I see it eventually eroding a great deal of credibility and confidence. They will pull away from that bullshit themselves I'm guessing, but again fuck me cause I'm not a dad, your kids aren't mine, and I'm losing my drunk after this diatribe.

Cue the guillotine for Cheyenne the Heartless Bachelor.

I think you should seek mental health support. I mean that seriously.
 
Yea, or just introduce you to postmodern philosophy concepts gleaned from higher education. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I will admit I'm flying the feint batshit flag. Nothing I have said is wrong though, what else is only my opinion.

Let me try clarifying again, without the sensational don't tread on me red pilling. My personal reaction to people having children is blank indifference, my formal reaction is that the lack of personal accountability in regard to breeding and rearing offspring among the masses is leading us to impending generations of soft men dealing with hard times. My emotional reaction to children themselves is to protect them. Thus people antagonizing their children seems like something I would not be partial to, as I have stated. You'd still get Christmas cards from me, I don't think it's child abuse or anything, if it were I would actually care. However, there are peripheral facts about how we are no longer pioneering the species or subduing the wilderness to flourish. We should be mitigating our impending downfall due to overpopulation relative to resource utilization resulting in a species-wide butterfly effect of a resounding lack of cultural responsibility and societal health. That some people expect reverence for being physically capable of making a baby and then having the compassion to not raise it into human trash is indicative of this. Hence why I brought it up and thus why I won't give out "congratulations your fuck stick works stickers". I don't know how to further clarify my formal stance on that emergent matter. I offer no solutions to these perceived problems. If you would alternately like me to talk to you as if you were children yourselves I can sugar coat it in the next three hours before I go to the psycho who doesn't by default want to see pictures of your kids store for more salt.
 
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How's my credibility if I make the inconvenient observation that many children are unplanned surprises, usually resulting in a sub-nominal household financial situations, and causing strain on their parent's relationship and level of care. Relationships that if you don't bring the state into beforehand the child is thusly considered a bastard. 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher. Those are arguably shit odds a kid would ever grow up in a stable two-parent home. I can't mathematically determine is a ~60% success rate (at best) for your decision to raise a human life form in a rudimentary traditionally healthy sense "shit odds" or "being noble", but I'm not a dad because I wear rubbers so fuck me anways, right.

What I do instead is have a career in industrialized agriculture, I work for an efficiency and productivity consultation company. I've kept a keen eye on the notion that overpopulation is contributing to the downfall of society and the lack of personal accountability among the masses for their resources in that regard will inevitably lead to a manifold of extreme and undue species-wide stress very soon. Its effects are already gaining momentum— there are how many billion lives on this planet right now? So if you alternately had kids as a concise plan, congratulations we're in this mess because of people like you. I can prove mathematically that you're working directly counter to the species' best interest if having children in either case, but I genuinely don't give a two-hour shit at Jolly Pirate Donuts about how you raise them. I don't even care that you're wrong to have kids, just don't tell me you are right. Then again, I work in the business that helps find new ways to feed people so fuck me, I'm practically my own devil. Around here there seems to be a great bunch of dads, I'm not singling anyone out saying if you do this AFHV bullshit or pull cute jokes that you're a bad parent. What I am saying is that mother nature doesn't want more children.

As much as you might love being a parent I love not having an 18 year long sentence to dedicating 110% of my time and energy to raising a primal version of myself with greater capacity for both stupidity and intelligence while simultaneously crawling myself to the grave one grey ball hair at a time and jerking it to fucking babysitter hardcore because it's the one secret thing I didn't put in the porn filter. Somewhere along the way in fatherhood, probably early on, I'd figure out that life is essentially a pointless pursuit of certainty that is ultimately unattainable and unfulfilling, existence is suffering, happiness is just less suffering, karma does not exist, we all die alone, and the only thing that is every truly real is my inability to validate my own perspective with corroboration from any other members of my own species— even a genetically mutated version of my own self that I raise. The time would pass slowly and I would always know my offspring will eventually learn the same lessons. It would be an uncomfortable emotion, I would resign a great deal of stress to it. The state or gov will eventually own them just like they own you and me through the industrialized agriculture, medical, and utility infrastructure that allowed us to think screwing our way to the top of the monetary reward system food chain at such a rate of collective tangible inefficiency in the first place is just the natural order working flawlessly. America doesn't need children, it needs men.

If you think it's the best time in history to play daddy daycare then you're mistaken, and don't be so quick to tout being a parent as the end all be all of the virtuous and insightful decisions. My decision and responsibility to not have children is what gives me credibility as a contrasting point of view to this society of the spectacle coward orgy we call modern America. If my parents had been a bunch of chucklefucks all the time like in this Jimmy Kimmel shit I'd be a goddamn joke of a man. You think your kid needs to learn this Jimmy Kimmel shit from you? Really? I know you don't think any kid is set to sail through life never having to deal with shit like this, or when they do that it ends up in a shootout because you didn't annoy the fuck out of them enough at home. So why is this enriching instead of arbitrary patronizing, because your own intentions which a child (or any other human for that matter) would be willfully ignorant to due to the aforementioned dynamic of what I will call "fuckery"? I think you're playing over their heads with this one, that just my opinion. Fuck me right. I am ignorant to some things I admit that. I never understood a parent's ability to justify their impulse to inspire or encourage dependency for insight from the parents in the child, until I realize the parents see their kids as a reiteration and extension of themselves and their behaviour and thoughts reflect on them by default. Thus it is a "natural" perversion to justify manipulation and falsely engineered situations to instil and evoke trained responses, and potentially maladaptations, which lend their parents greater control over them while simultaneously "enriching" their understanding of foundational logic. Sickening, but natural. I don't see it working long term, I see it eventually eroding a great deal of credibility and confidence. They will pull away from that bullshit themselves I'm guessing, but again fuck me cause I'm not a dad, your kids aren't mine, and I'm losing my drunk after this diatribe.

Cue the guillotine for Cheyenne the Heartless Bachelor.


Too many words to read the whole thing but certain words jumped out at me and all I can say is the world is a great place, I am thankful for every day I wake up and have the good fortune to face what comes at me.

You need to listen to more "Dont worry, be happy".
 
Wife had insurance on it. $150 co pay came from his Christmas money. He hasnt gotten it back yet so he is without Xbox and without phone.

This is my phone...

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He should get this.

Damn, that's more high speed than I have! Even my mom calls it a burner!

Try Red Dead Redemption II on playstation. It's set in the old western days with revolvers, horses, big game hunts and a lot more. Badass game

I played the first one, got a ways in it and the PS3 died and got replaced with a PS4. Lost all the data on it and didn't wanna start over. I still have it I think. If the second one has as much grinding required or the gambling games I won't be impressed. But I've heard it's really good so I'll check it out before I make a decision. I'll need something on hand after I beat Dark Souls 3. That game gets harder (they're already known for being one of the hardest games) after you beat it and supposedly it changes enough to keep it interesting. We'll see.
 
Kimmel went to school with my 1 of my brother in laws in Saugerties, that being said these games have social importance to the kids. They also create extreme antisocial behavior on the other end of the spectrum. Then it's on to college and the antisocial kid joins other antisocials and they join ANTIFA.

The game is now THE social relationship as opposed to being "part" of a social relationship.

These kids are being fooled into believing sitting home alone screaming at a TV screen is a social relationship.
 
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I'm gonna say this in the nicest way possible. I know you're trying to be helpful but you truly don't know fuck all abut this. Your attempts at teaching parenting skills and psychology have us fathers laughing our asses off.

Please do carry on.

There's a brand new "state of the art" range that opened by my house last month and they have the same flooring. They call it a "safety feature" because it keeps people from tripping or stumbling over the fired brass. They say they don't have a problem with people who like to save their brass...but they have to get it before it goes through the flooring.
 
I think he is saying if I may... GET RID OF ALL TRAILER PARKS.....AND WHITE TRASH. Well plenty of people I know are just that and their socioeconomic situation is what it is due to lack of opportunities in rural America and jobs outsourcing to Asia. So they load up with a six pack of Genni and fuck. Overpopulation
 
I think he is saying if I may... GET RID OF ALL TRAILER PARKS.....AND WHITE TRASH. Well plenty of people I know are just that and their socioeconomic situation is what it is due to lack of opportunities in rural America and jobs outsourcing to Asia. So they load up with a six pack of Genni and fuck. Overpopulation

How about we just get rid of all the people here in the country illegally.
That would more than take care of any supposed "overpopulation" problem... which in itself is a lie especially when applied to rural America.... now if you were to mention that the world would be better off if various huge cities around the world were suddenly no more... well... that's another matter.
 
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Is anyone else concerned about kids frying their brains on violent video games then becoming interested in blasting up things with real guns?

Displined markmanship training is a positive thing. Learning position shooting, building a log book etc.

I am not so sure about undisciplined, mindless blasting.
 
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Is anyone else concerned about kids frying their brains on violent video games then becoming interested in blasting up things with real guns?

Displined markmanship training is a positive thing. Learning position shooting, building a log book etc.

I am not so sure about undisciplined, mindless blasting.

I think they need a component in the game code that prevents the kid from playing for a period of 48 hours should they break a weapons handling safety rule or conduct a bad shoot.

Col Dave Grossman notes that game play to a big extent is similar to mil training used to psychologically prepare soldiers to aim and fire at humanlike targets.

The military includes law of war in this training, kids get nothing.

He posits we are creating a society of amoral shooters.

Granted family/other factors can overcome it but for those that have issues and no support it may be toxic.
 
@Cheyenne Bodie: I have the perfect book for you.

Better To Have Never Been

A well written study about the harm and hopelessness of ever being brought into existence. Seems to fit your perspective.

Enjoy.

I don't think it's possible to bring a child into this world for the child's own sake and such it is not inherently noble, shameful, or burdensome for either the child or parent. It's not a legitimate argument, in my opinion, comparing existence with non-existence like that. I suppose that delves into my own beliefs regarding the completely inanimate, but in any case to be inanimate —or effectively not yet exist—, by definition precludes any will to choose in the slightest either way. I will say that folks that take care of disabled and/or adopted children should be congratulated, that's noble as fuck and it makes King Arthur look like Kaepernick in my opinion.

It's like saying if I like apple pie then my favorite color is red, because some apples are red. It's not legitimate logic. Mathematically I would compare it to dividing by zero to say that life is ever hopeless, there is always more to learn. We are too ignorant to be hopeless. Sometimes we learn things that are disconcerting or enriching, hence why I'm trying to speculate upon this rumored and regal parental insight possibly existing within the folds of the human condition. Most of my stance and starting point on the matter comes from Buddhism of all places— existence is suffering, desire or thirst is its cause are two of the four noble truths.


How about we just get rid of all the people here in the country illegally.
That would more than take care of any supposed "overpopulation" problem... which in itself is a lie especially when applied to rural America.... now if you were to mention that the world would be better off if various huge cities around the world were suddenly no more... well... that's another matter.

No, I don't condone violence in any circumstance other than in response to violence. I don't even condone the government telling people they can't have kids or me paying taxes to incentivize people not having kids. I don't have any solutions to these problems other than widespread personal accountability, the repercussions of which may be a slight dying off of the more considerate and rational ancestral scions within our species. I'm not in charge of this shit and if I were there's practically nothing I could do.
 
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I think they need a component in the game code that prevents the kid from playing for a period of 48 hours should they break a weapons handling safety rule or conduct a bad shoot.

I think what might actually be even more interesting and useful is to make "dying" a bit longer of an event.
You know if they get "killed" in the game, they are out for half an hour or an hour at a minimum, even 10 minutes would be like an eternity to them, but it would make them stop and think. Or in team matches, no respawning till the match is over. You get killed, you stay dead till the next match.
 
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No, I don't condone violence in any circumstance other than in response to violence.

Judging from History, I don't think we have much to worry about, violence and dying always come around in big numbers eventually.
We are just in a little special place where for the past 70 or so years the western world hasn't had had as much dying as before and have had mostly peace and no plagues or other dying.

I'm pretty sure like it or not, eventually something will come along like it always does.

Now the rest of the world has had plenty of dying and violence going on that most don't understand fully. The amount of people that died due to Communists AFTER WWII is huge, let alone the constant wars in the sandbox and Africa for the past 70 years or so.
 
Judging from History, I don't think we have much to worry about, violence and dying always come around in big numbers eventually.
We are just in a little special place where for the past 70 or so years the western world hasn't had had as much dying as before and have had mostly peace and no plagues or other dying.

I'm pretty sure like it or not, eventually something will come along like it always does.

Now the rest of the world has had plenty of dying and violence going on that most don't understand fully. The amount of people that died due to Communists AFTER WWII is huge, let alone the constant wars in the sandbox and Africa for the past 70 years or so.

Yea, we as Americans have thankfully enjoyed a long period of overwhelming comfort compared to the frequency and severity of historical watershed moments in the same timeframe around the world.

The fact that folks here don't automatically give a keen look at anything that comes out of Jiminy Kimlet the patron saint of conscience for the late-night wanna-be real boy amazes me. I am sorry if I upset or rubbed anyone the wrong way with my opinion, seriously fuck me if I did.
 
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Is anyone else concerned about kids frying their brains on violent video games then becoming interested in blasting up things with real guns?

Displined markmanship training is a positive thing. Learning position shooting, building a log book etc.

I am not so sure about undisciplined, mindless blasting.

That's not a kid or violent video game issue at all. It's a parenting issue. A young kid will only do what the parents allows them to do. Which drives me nuts when I hear these stories from idiotic parents who complain that their kids play games all day and they don't know what to do. My oldest boy isn't all that much into video games, but does try to stay informed so he don't look like a fool at school. My youngest on the other hand loves to play GTA games. He doesn't even really progress the storyline, but rather just drives full speed on the sidewalks and sending crowds of people flying. I don't worry at all mainly because I don't raise stupid kids and also there's no actual evidence that violent video games make violent people. It's just harmless fun.

As far as mindless blasting goes, what's wrong with that? I love mindlessly blasting shit at close range with a 12 gauge. And what about the folks who go to Knob Creek, rent a machine gun, buy 6 paychecks worth of ammo only to shoot the ground at full auto and then go home and blog how they're now machine gun experts. It's not healthy to always be thinking. It's a great thing to every now and then clear your minds. Whether it be while fishing, hunting, shooting, listening to music, etc.
 
I'm trying to think of something that I'd like to add to this lengthy and rather deep thread but honestly I'd just be reiterating what has already been stated previously. Interesting to see everyone's views on this for sure.
 
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