Our local has new thermal

NV and thermal has been around in LE for a long time. Very long. The latest and greatest is thermal cameras on drones. Which work very well for finding people. Good or bad

However what LE uses as far as that is nothing the average Joe can’t buy either. Good ones are expensive though
 
Before everyone gets their knickers in a wad... we had thermals c. 2005...

They are amazing for SAR and, as someone pointed out above, kids lost in the woods. The fire guys use them in smoke-filled buildings because they find people before they die.

Not sure about other states, but we were strictly prohibited from using them for any kind of 'searches' without a warrant. In other words, you think there's a grow operation or something like that? Well, you can't just go around with a thermal looking for one without a warrant. Period, end of story. It's not spy gear in the hands of L.E. As much as folks want to see giant conspiracy's in some of this, the technology is limited in its employment by due process.

Could it be abused? Sure. Right up until a judge rules anything inadmissible, the States attorney reams your chief's ass and the chief skins you alive.

It's funny how many folks are freaking out about local police having thermals... when their phone, Alexa and cars... are reporting their every word and movement to big tech (aka the modern NKVD) which happily is sharing your data with big government. And doing so with impunity because you signed away your privacy when you got that smart phone or bought a new car (you know the fine print when you sign the New Car Purchase Agreement says The GPS System can track you and you are ok with that and with GM using the data any way we want, right? You read all that fine print at the car dealer? Before signing?) Big Tech is far more dangerous than any local judicial system and everyone is volunteering to be spied on because GPS maps and Voice-activate restaurant reservations through OnStar are really fun and convenient. Your computer is even storing your driving habits for download... you didn't know.

Thermals... that's a joke. Your phone is listening to you even when you think it's off. Your car is tracking your movements. Every word you post anywhere is being stored somewhere. Every call you make is being scanned for keywords and may be stored. Maybe just for 'market research...' Maybe to be used against you when Zuck and the Rasputin guy (and all their leftist vice-presidents) running Google and Apple and Verizon get their way and put in ChiCom social scores. Then, along with woke banks, can decide to lock your bank account because they don't like the meme you posted or the fact that you donated $50 to a Canadian trucker.

Thermals... ah ha hahha ha haa.... .

Sirhr
 
And the police protect the companies and evil bastards you speak of. If men were to right these wrongs or any number of other government made problems that could be easily remedied by good men, they would be attacked by LEO city, county, state. It’s deemed “illegal” by the police state to do what is right and needed and once a call out is made, the everyday police man will do what they are paid to do, i.e., protect the agenda handed down by the worst in society. One of the most ironic things in the world to me is a police officer bitching about how things are considering the violence they are legal to commit is the only thing giving government its power. To solidify my point, do you think that the covid farce could have been pulled off without violent threats of the police nationwide? Not a chance.

What would you or anyone else in your department do if you pulled over a truck and the driver had a warrant issued by whomever for attacking big tech in one way or another using your example? Would you or a coworker give him a high five and a police escort to safety or would you draw your weapon and initiate an arrest? You don’t need to answer this part as it’s obvious.

A warrant issued for attacking big tech?

Dispatch: 5440 subject has a federal warrant for attacking big tech.

5440: Copy I have one in custody.

Dispatch: Don't forget to change the batteries in you thermal after shift.
 
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Before everyone gets their knickers in a wad... we had thermals c. 2005...

They are amazing for SAR and, as someone pointed out above, kids lost in the woods. The fire guys use them in smoke-filled buildings because they find people before they die.

Not sure about other states, but we were strictly prohibited from using them for any kind of 'searches' without a warrant. In other words, you think there's a grow operation or something like that? Well, you can't just go around with a thermal looking for one without a warrant.

Well...

Louisville Police Find Christmas Lights
 
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banned? interesting. and informative if true. on a similar note to above things,it was going around after the rodney king riots that the police had no statutory obligation to intervene in the comision of a crime that they were observing. anyone know if that idea has substance? considering the riots on the left coast recently,seems that there is some truth there. maybe depends on local laws and jurisdiction?
 
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the police have zero obligation to protect you. and truthfully, how can they? no one can be everywhere at once; it is simply impossible. which is why i have never understood why the masses are willing to hand off the responsibility for their own lives and safety over to someone else.

same same for accident scenes. i've seen people make the 911 call, then proceed to stand there with their thumb in their ass....waiting for someone else to dive in and take action. hell, i've been on scene and even when the police and first responders show up, the police stand around watching. i suggested to the one cop about maybe thinking about directing traffic, which he responded "oh yeah". then the second cop, the EMTs were calling in a helicopter, and he's just standing there after i suggested the other direct traffic. i suggest to him that he might want to set up a landing zone for the incoming bird. "oh, good idea". then i had to chase my equipment down from the fucking ill-equipped EMTs that tried to keep it.

why the fuck you would want to hand off these responsibilities to someone else, is beyond me. some are excellent, a whole lot are not.
 
daaaang which one of you butthurt snowflakes went and got @wade2big banned? I rather enjoyed his musings.
There's things we can and can't say on a public server that is not ours.
I think those things are what most of us feel and know to be true.
Save those for the tavern, that's how they did it the first time.
 
This was a response to a cherry picked part of my post. The much larger picture is the helicopters, armored military vehicles, explosives, and everything else paid for by the taxpayer that they have to use against the citizenry once they finally get fed up with the corruption, theft, and murders compliments if the state and acts protected and only made possible by their police.
Please, stop....Oh, wait!!!
 
We live in a paradise and have the best cops on the planet pretty much. Not really joking there.

The issue is the people standing right behind the cops. Like Binger.

We live in a nation stupid enough to let lawyers write laws...and then the same lawyers defend us from the laws they wrote, prosecute us against the laws they wrote. and judge the process of the laws they wrote.

The state should pay all costs of all legal processes, to include substantial restitution if you are found not guilty.

If a law is found unconstitutional, all persons who wrote it, voted for it, and signed it lose their offices immediately.
 
Before everyone gets their knickers in a wad... we had thermals c. 2005...

They are amazing for SAR and, as someone pointed out above, kids lost in the woods. The fire guys use them in smoke-filled buildings because they find people before they die.

Not sure about other states, but we were strictly prohibited from using them for any kind of 'searches' without a warrant. In other words, you think there's a grow operation or something like that? Well, you can't just go around with a thermal looking for one without a warrant. Period, end of story. It's not spy gear in the hands of L.E. As much as folks want to see giant conspiracy's in some of this, the technology is limited in its employment by due process.

Could it be abused? Sure. Right up until a judge rules anything inadmissible, the States attorney reams your chief's ass and the chief skins you alive.

It's funny how many folks are freaking out about local police having thermals... when their phone, Alexa and cars... are reporting their every word and movement to big tech (aka the modern NKVD) which happily is sharing your data with big government. And doing so with impunity because you signed away your privacy when you got that smart phone or bought a new car (you know the fine print when you sign the New Car Purchase Agreement says The GPS System can track you and you are ok with that and with GM using the data any way we want, right? You read all that fine print at the car dealer? Before signing?) Big Tech is far more dangerous than any local judicial system and everyone is volunteering to be spied on because GPS maps and Voice-activate restaurant reservations through OnStar are really fun and convenient. Your computer is even storing your driving habits for download... you didn't know.

Thermals... that's a joke. Your phone is listening to you even when you think it's off. Your car is tracking your movements. Every word you post anywhere is being stored somewhere. Every call you make is being scanned for keywords and may be stored. Maybe just for 'market research...' Maybe to be used against you when Zuck and the Rasputin guy (and all their leftist vice-presidents) running Google and Apple and Verizon get their way and put in ChiCom social scores. Then, along with woke banks, can decide to lock your bank account because they don't like the meme you posted or the fact that you donated $50 to a Canadian trucker.

Thermals... ah ha hahha ha haa.... .

Sirhr
They were using them here as early as 1999 to catch kids running from keg parties at the lakes.
 
As it turned out they were getting extra funding for making it look like there was a severe youth alcohol problem by rabbidly going after parties where there would be underage kids, then once they found one that was drinking, they would give every kid an MIP whether they were drinking or not, and claim it was because they had access. It was a like like the COVID scam, where as most of these youth "problem drinkers," weren't even drinking. The police knew it, DA knew it, and the judge knew it.
 
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I knew a kid who got an MIP for being at party for all the seniors. Didn't drink, wasn't drinking, and lost a very good scholarship for getting an MIP. His story was the same as everyones. You would go to court, tell the DA and judge you weren't drinking. They would tell you it didn't matter, you had access. 24 hours of public service and 24 hours and "alcohol classes." It spawned a whole other useless industry. Or that unless industry spawned the problem, I guess is more likely.

The second time it was 48/48, third time it was 72/72.
 
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Why did le spend so much time and effort on these youts?

Soft targets to run up the score?
There were more serious issues somewhere else in town I'll bet.

Check them for drugs, make sure the cars stay parked and move on.

Worse crimes committed on a daily basis on Capital grounds and the White House and no one does a damn thing.
 
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Why did le spend so much time and effort on these youts?

Soft targets to run up the score?
There were more serious issues somewhere else in town I'll bet.

Check them for drugs, make sure the cars stay parked and move on.

Worse crimes committed on a daily basis on Capital grounds and the White House and no one does a damn thing.
 
So if you spend all night processing soft targets you are unlikely to get injured by bad guys or clintoncide by important criminals.

Got it.

Looks like the youts provided a valuable service.