Parker Hale M82 Clone

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New old member here. I have been away from the Hide for about 10 years, and feel it's time to get back to some precision projects now that the kids are gone! I always wanted a Parker-Hale M82, but, they are un-obtanium, and when one pops up, they are super expensive. So, I have planned to build a "clone" for some time, so here goes. I found Old West Scrounger had M81 "cadet" stocks available. The profile is the same as the M82, but they are single shot, and use a different accessory rail. I bought a couple to play with. Pro's, they have the internal magazine outlined for in-letting and are beautiful Walnut stocks made by Parker Hale, with spacers and a recoil pad. Cons, as mentioned above, different accessory rail (Anschultz style versus the PH threaded rail), no internal magazine, and as they were single shot, large round recesses for excrussions. I plan to inlet the magazine well, and found a PH accessory rail for the Cadet stock, which will be , not quite right, but, is what it is. I started searching for a large ring commercial 98 action, and decided to use a Zestava action for the project. I found a good one in 30-06 on gunbroker, and pulled the trigger. A day later, three nos, in the white Santa Barbra actions came up for sale. Santa Barbra produced the commercial actions for PH. To much to resist, bought one. I also scrounged a set of PH 22 and 28 scope bases, and found two brand new RAHS3 scope rings in 1 inch. I plan to go with a 10 power fixed Bushnell 1 inch scope. The M82 used the RALS3, but the high rings will work with my scope. I sent the Santa Barbra action to my smith, who advised me it was actually a magnum action, and would need the bolt face welded up if I was going to run .308 through it. As I also had the Zastava action, I had him swap bolts, true the lugs and bolt face, and she will work fine for .308. This leaves me with the Zastava machined action, which now has a magnum bolt in it. Next build, .404 Jeffery Safari rifle... Last is the barrel. I had McGowan Precision build a 26 inch 1-12 twist on the M82/1200TX profile. Barrel arrived, and is a thing of beauty. Time to put all of this stuff together into a rifle.PH-1.jpg
 

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Good luck with that build, that is a challenging project to undertake, and glad you were able to gather up all those parts.
 

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So if I'm not mistaken is that left hand twist?

A friend has PH he got from his father and I mentioned LH twist. Both him and his dad were surprised at this.

"Well shit, it is LH!" Was the reaction I think.
 

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Where did you find the PH rings? I’m after a set of RCH4s but they seem rather than rocking horse s***!
Ebay stalking. They pop up now and then. I found the RAHS new in the box, had probably been sitting on a shelf somewhere since the 70's. I found a second set a couple weeks later. The box is actually a small work of art. No bubble packs, inked cardboard. "Another fine aid from Parker-Hale"!
I see there is a set of RCH4 rings for sale in England, 130 pounds!
 
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New old member here. I have been away from the Hide for about 10 years, and feel it's time to get back to some precision projects now that the kids are gone! I always wanted a Parker-Hale M82, but, they are un-obtanium, and when one pops up, they are super expensive. So, I have planned to build a "clone" for some time, so here goes. I found Old West Scrounger had M81 "cadet" stocks available. The profile is the same as the M82, but they are single shot, and use a different accessory rail. I bought a couple to play with. Pro's, they have the internal magazine outlined for in-letting and are beautiful Walnut stocks made by Parker Hale, with spacers and a recoil pad. Cons, as mentioned above, different accessory rail (Anschultz style versus the PH threaded rail), no internal magazine, and as they were single shot, large round recesses for excrussions. I plan to inlet the magazine well, and found a PH accessory rail for the Cadet stock, which will be , not quite right, but, is what it is. I started searching for a large ring commercial 98 action, and decided to use a Zestava action for the project. I found a good one in 30-06 on gunbroker, and pulled the trigger. A day later, three nos, in the white Santa Barbra actions came up for sale. Santa Barbra produced the commercial actions for PH. To much to resist, bought one. I also scrounged a set of PH 22 and 28 scope bases, and found two brand new RAHS3 scope rings in 1 inch. I plan to go with a 10 power fixed Bushnell 1 inch scope. The M82 used the RALS3, but the high rings will work with my scope. I sent the Santa Barbra action to my smith, who advised me it was actually a magnum action, and would need the bolt face welded up if I was going to run .308 through it. As I also had the Zastava action, I had him swap bolts, true the lugs and bolt face, and she will work fine for .308. This leaves me with the Zastava machined action, which now has a magnum bolt in it. Next build, .404 Jeffery Safari rifle... Last is the barrel. I had McGowan Precision build a 26 inch 1-12 twist on the M82/1200TX profile. Barrel arrived, and is a thing of beauty. Time to put all of this stuff together into a rifle.View attachment 7387563
I wanted to start my own thread on this but you beat me to it😁F22942EE-DBE3-4367-BF95-92F163FCFC9F.jpegA3512C07-90C1-4DA8-BC85-7D862FF59A95.jpeg
I did like you did and started with the M81 cadet stock. My action is a ...can’t remember right now... I’m at the beer tasting room, M98 of some kind with the crest ground off. Cork Soakers! I got it cheap, but the barrel is a Parker Hale. You might see the profile in the barrel in the sunshine shot.

Anyhow, it looks mid-fifties to mid seventies. The scope is a Unertl 4X Hawk. Not used for military that I know of but it looks that way. It looks all snipery, but in truth it’s an “across the decades” idea of a useful sniper rifle of days gone by, but past WWII.
 
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Which action do you think is higher quality Zastava vs SB? @merrildog @sandwarrior
The Zastava is machined, where the SB is cast, so the strength goes to the Zastava. Apparently in the lower pressure rounds, the SB is just dandy, but most builders won't use them in magnum cartridges. The SB is a pretty little thing, and I'm fine with using it on the .308, and switching out the Zastava bolt so I wouldn't have to modify the larger magnum SB bolt face. From what I have read, the Zastava actions are brutal, which is why I'm using it for next years .404 Jeffery project.
 
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I wanted to start my own thread on this but you beat me to it😁View attachment 7388071View attachment 7388072
I did like you did and started with the M81 cadet stock. My action is a ...can’t remember right now... I’m at the beer tasting room, M98 of some kind with the crest ground off. Cork Soakers! I got it cheap, but the barrel is a Parker Hale. You might see the profile in the barrel in the sunshine shot.

Anyhow, it looks mid-fifties to mid seventies. The scope is a Unertl 4X Hawk. Not used for military that I know of but it looks that way. It looks all snipery, but in truth it’s an “across the decades” idea of a useful sniper rifle of days gone by, but past WWII.
Feel free to jump in, I'm trial and erroring this thing!!
 

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Does your stock have the circle inletted where the bottom metal would overlap the rail?

I didn’t quite know what to do with that. I think I’ll dig the bedding out there and see if I can’t carve some half-disks to fill that.

And, get a template to inlet he bottom. I’ve gotta add filler. Different shape on one side of the bottom metal to the other. PITA inletting if your action is not a SB. All the stupid little corners and what not are different than the basic Ph inlet.
 

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Does your stock have the circle inletted where the bottom metal would overlap the rail?

I didn’t quite know what to do with that. I think I’ll dig the bedding out there and see if I can’t carve some half-disks to fill that.

And, get a template to inlet he bottom. I’ve gotta add filler. Different shape on one side of the bottom metal to the other. PITA inletting if your action is not a SB. All the stupid little corners and what not are different than the basic Ph inlet.
That was my second step. I got my action inletted, and sent the barrel and receiver off today to have the barrel installed. The big circles presented a little head scratching, but I decided to find a hole saw with the ID close to the escrution holes. I pulled the spacers off the but, as they are made of similar wood, and cut a couple plugs out of the middle. Mixed up some wood glue and left over sawdust, and glued them in. Filed and sanded them down, and now it is time to cut in the magazine. My action was not a drop in, unfortunately. I had to take out quite a bit of the stupid little corners to make way for bedding compound. The action set up pretty high in the stock, but looks better now.
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The Zastava is machined, where the SB is cast, so the strength goes to the Zastava. Apparently in the lower pressure rounds, the SB is just dandy, but most builders won't use them in magnum cartridges. The SB is a pretty little thing, and I'm fine with using it on the .308, and switching out the Zastava bolt so I wouldn't have to modify the larger magnum SB bolt face. From what I have read, the Zastava actions are brutal, which is why I'm using it for next years .404 Jeffery project.
You also building the .404 yourself? Any plans for Africa?
 

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I have an M82 stock and a Parker Hale hunting type rifle but that's as far as I've got. I REALLY want the iron sight set up and have the front but the rear is near impossible to find. I also can't seem to find the right scope bases for this rifle. I think it's just a Parker Hale 1200. I ordered some bases that were supposed to fit it but they don't.

You'd be jealous if you saw the stock I got from Old Western Scrounger. I'll post a pic later if I remember to.

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I have an M82 stock and a Parker Hale hunting type rifle but that's as far as I've got. I REALLY want the iron sight set up and have the front but the rear is near impossible to find. I also can't seem to find the right scope bases for this rifle. I think it's just a Parker Hale 1200. I ordered some bases that were supposed to fit it but they don't.

You'd be jealous if you saw the stock I got from Old Western Scrounger. I'll post a pic later if I remember to.

-Dan
Numerich has the #22 and #28 bases in stock. They are about 7 bucks apiece. Which rings did you get?
 

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That was my second step. I got my action inletted, and sent the barrel and receiver off today to have the barrel installed. The big circles presented a little head scratching, but I decided to find a hole saw with the ID close to the escrution holes. I pulled the spacers off the but, as they are made of similar wood, and cut a couple plugs out of the middle. Mixed up some wood glue and left over sawdust, and glued them in. Filed and sanded them down, and now it is time to cut in the magazine. My action was not a drop in, unfortunately. I had to take out quite a bit of the stupid little corners to make way for bedding compound. The action set up pretty high in the stock, but looks better now.
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Also, as what you can see, this birch stained to look like dark walnut. I suggest getting the darkest walnut (added: stain) you can, as a 'natural' that I didn't have on hand, left the stained wood very light.
 
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Magazine starting to sink into the stock. I drilled out the bulk of the material to be removed, then took it down close to my scribe marks with a router. The rest of the work is with files and chisels. Working at a snails pace, as I don't want to screw it up. Wood glue was a poor choice to secure my plugs. They popped out. Put them back with epoxy. ph-6.jpgph-5.jpg
 

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Magazine starting to sink into the stock. I drilled out the bulk of the material to be removed, then took it down close to my scribe marks with a router. The rest of the work is with files and chisels. Working at a snails pace, as I don't want to screw it up. Wood glue was a poor choice to secure my plugs. They popped out. Put them back with epoxy. View attachment 7391694View attachment 7391698
I love the hoof trimmer rasp! They come in "handy handy" when you gotta remove a big face like the side of a magazine box and you've still got an 8th" to go. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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I love the hoof trimmer rasp! They come in "handy handy" when you gotta remove a big face like the side of a magazine box and you've still got an 8th" to go. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
That is my go-to wood working tool! I have lots of metal working tools, wood working, not so much. Because I suck at it, measure twice, cut once, throw it away, cut again, swear....
 
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Found a decent color pic of an M82 in a book I have. Good luck with these builds, that conversion requires a lot of wood work...
 

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