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You mean Schmidt and Bender (S&B) right? If you found a 3-27x for $2800 in a reticle that you can live with then you need to hop on that deal right now!
M7Xis can be had for significantly less than that right now; look around/shop a bit. No experience with the S&B so not saying the Steiner is the better scope, but I found the price/performance ratio to meet my needs quite well, X2.Can get them for around the same price (sub is used but mint condition). Around 2800. Leaning toward the Steiner, but the sub seems to be a great price?
M7Xis can be had for significantly less than that right now; look around/shop a bit. No experience with the S&B so not saying the Steiner is the better scope, but I found the price/performance ratio to meet my needs quite well, X2.
Due to mfg MAP Pricing policy we cannot quote prices open forums. Please give me a call, 516-217-1000, to discuss this.What are you getting them for now?
Dsg has)had em for 2399 last weekWhat are you getting them for now?
In the European market Steiner became the first supplier on high end riflescopes. They won all important European contracts. e.g. German Special Force KSK, German Army, French SF and Army, Poland Army, Belgium Police... That shows their strong commitment to top quality and ruggedness.I love anything S&B, and have been a fan of Steiner MX series for years. What I would say is that that Steiner has hit a homerun with the new M7Xi, and they are selling better than S&B in Europe.
I have not used the S&B 3-27x, and we sell very few. On S&B, mostly 5-25x and the new 1-8x. You can never go wrong with S&B, but I would choose the Steiner in this comparison. New scope, widely accepted, lots of good reticles.
We carry the M7Xi in MSR2 in CW, and get some of the others when we need them and customers ask.
Let me know if I can help.
In the European market Steiner became the first supplier on high end riflescopes. They won all important European contracts. e.g. German Special Force KSK, German Army, French SF and Army, Poland Army, Belgium Police... That shows their strong commitment to top quality and ruggedness.
The sub has p4f reticle. I can live with that I guess but msr2 is better for prs no? Also read the prs blog scope test where the 3-27 didn't fare so well.
Have also read this. I do wonder however if 9x mag range makes optical compromizes neccesary....He had the optic set up incorrectly for the test. He should have taken it down. Not sure why that’s still floating around.
The SCR originally made it's debut in the Steiner T5Xi but then trickled down to the Burris XTR II series, it will be interesting if the SCR2 trickles "up" to the Steiners. Burris is having issues getting the SCR2 to market, my guess is we'll see it in the XTR III before we see it with any other scopes. Also, I would not expect the M7Xi to beat out the ZP5 optically so I wouldn't base a purchase on that, but on other features...Any chance of these getting the SCR or SCR2? I really liked the scope I looked behind and the price is lower than expected (several hundred lower than my Minox) I just like the SCR a bit more than the MSR2.
He had the optic set up incorrectly for the test. He should have taken it down. Not sure why that’s still floating around.
Not challenging, but do you have the source for this info? I'd be interested in the details
Was that the reason they thought it only went up to 21X or something like that?
It is very difficult to tell the difference when in good light with many scopes, its when the light is poor that you begin to notice the differences. If you get an opportunity to compare the two in low light I'd be curious your thoughts.I looked through the M7xi next to my ZP5 at a match. For any type of practical shooting I couldn’t tell the difference. Maybe I could have had I taken the time to go back and forth in detail. You’re right about the features. The turrets on the Steiner were nicer and I liked how it was more compact.
Just to be clear I wasn't inferring the M7Xi is disappointing or not impressive.The M7Xi does not disappoint under any light condition that I’ve had it in so far. Brightest of days to heavily overcast, twilight or dusk, it is quite impressive.