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Rifle Scopes QD Mounts on bolt guns?

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Hi everyone,

I've been watching 'Magpul Dynamics- The Art of the Precision Rifle'

One thing that did catch my eye was the Larue QD mounts;

QD mounts seem quite useful, but I gather few people run them on bolt guns. I'm guessing partly due to most of them being setup height wise for AR platforms.

I did find a set that has a height more suitable to bolt guns;

http://www.opticsplanet.net/gg-g-accucam-quick-detach-base-w-integral-30mm-rings-for-bolt-guns.html

Any experiences on running QD mounts on bolt guns?

another little thing, he used a little clip to mark on the picatinny rail where to set the scope, anyone seen these for sale anywhere?
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

I think a lot of shooters don't use them because they aren't needed for their applications.

If you need to quickly switch between optics then they can be great tools. If you don't have a reason to take an optic on and off of a rifle than there is no need.

Everything has to do with your application with the rifle. I would also like to see more testing done on them. As far as retaining a zero when constantly being removed and re-mounted. I can't image them being as solid as properly mounted rings. I could be wrong though.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

I suspect sometimes people don't always push them hard forward into the rail when re-seating them, and have some POI shift
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I suspect sometimes people don't always push them hard forward into the rail when re-seating them, and have some POI shift
</div></div>

This would make sense. I didn't think there would be that much room for movement though.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
QD mounts seem quite useful, but I gather few people run them on bolt guns. I'm guessing partly due to most of them being setup height wise for AR platforms.</div></div>

Most of us run standard rings because you don't need QD Rings on a bolt gun. Mount the optic and leave it alone.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any experiences on running QD mounts on bolt guns?</div></div>

Yep.

http://8541tactical.com/ADM_RECON_review.php

ADM QD Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYN3NT3UGBo&hd=1

We have a LaRue and BOBRO mount to test as well.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
another little thing, he used a little clip to mark on the picatinny rail where to set the scope, anyone seen these for sale anywhere? </div></div>

Here: http://www.laruetactical.com/rail-covers

However, silver sharpie is what I use.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: slivoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually Larue does make a low QD mount, but only in 30mm
http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-ultra-low-mount-rings-qd

However, I have found no one makes a low 34mm or larger diameter QD mount. If you do, please post here. </div></div>

ADM 34-sl is very low for a QD mount. I tried one of these thinking it would work on my 40x and LMT, but on my lmt it was too low to fit any rear buis. I would recommend it for a bolt rifle.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi everyone,

I've been watching 'Magpul Dynamics- The Art of the Precision Rifle'

One thing that did catch my eye was the Larue QD mounts;

QD mounts seem quite useful, but I gather few people run them on bolt guns. I'm guessing partly due to most of them being setup height wise for AR platforms.

I did find a set that has a height more suitable to bolt guns;

http://www.opticsplanet.net/gg-g-accucam-quick-detach-base-w-integral-30mm-rings-for-bolt-guns.html

Any experiences on running QD mounts on bolt guns?

another little thing, he used a little clip to mark on the picatinny rail where to set the scope, anyone seen these for sale anywhere? </div></div>

I have the GG&G on mine and it locks down very tight and its built like a cinder block. I first ordered the exact one you have listed then returned it for the one with a higher ring height, 1.440 to be exact. I have a NF 5.5-22x56 in it and it all sits on top of an AICS 2.0. I chose the higher mount because I just couldn't get comfortable with the lower one for a few reasons. 1) AICS cheek piece is already high compared to some other guns, 2) I wear glasses so I was having a problem looking through the scope and not staring at the upper rim of my glasses, 3) Plain old large head just didnt allow me to get comfortable even with the cheek pad all the way down and adjusted as far away from my cheek as possible. I thought I was going to be swapping it between my bolt .308 and my AR-15 but I realized quickly what a pain in the ass it was to have to re-zero every time so I bought a Vortex PST 4-12x50 for my AR. I like it a lot and it really is easy to take on and off.
I compared the GG&G, LaRue, American Defense because they were all in the same price range. I know there are others but spending way over $200 was a bit ridiculous to me. You wont be disappointed with it but you also can't go wrong with the individual rings either.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
QD mounts seem quite useful, but I gather few people run them on bolt guns. I'm guessing partly due to most of them being setup height wise for AR platforms.</div></div>

Most of us run standard rings because you don't need QD Rings on a bolt gun. Mount the optic and leave it alone.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any experiences on running QD mounts on bolt guns?</div></div>

Yep.

http://8541tactical.com/ADM_RECON_review.php

ADM QD Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYN3NT3UGBo&hd=1

We have a LaRue and BOBRO mount to test as well.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thermionix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
another little thing, he used a little clip to mark on the picatinny rail where to set the scope, anyone seen these for sale anywhere? </div></div>

Here: http://www.laruetactical.com/rail-covers

However, silver sharpie is what I use. </div></div>
Thanks for that link LoneWolf. I never knew to load the mount when putting it back on.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: slivoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually Larue does make a low QD mount, but only in 30mm
http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-ultra-low-mount-rings-qd

However, I have found no one makes a low 34mm or larger diameter QD mount. If you do, please post here. </div></div>

ADM 34-sl is very low for a QD mount. I tried one of these thinking it would work on my 40x and LMT, but on my lmt it was too low to fit any rear buis. I would recommend it for a bolt rifle. </div></div>

I talked to ADM, their 34mm mount is still a little too high for a bolt action. I like my scopes almost touching the barrel.
 
Re: QD Mounts on bolt guns?

Depends on the rifle. AI AND AICS equipped rifles, XLR and many others require AR height mounts. Traditional stocked bolt guns with non adjustable combs are about the only reason you need to run an optic just off the barrel.
 
Digging this up again,

I've just ordered a new scope with a 50mm objective (30mm tube)

Rifle is a Tikka T3 varmint stainless with 20moa EGW rail, eventually will be riding in a Roedale RCSII (with AI panels)

Currently torn between;
GGG - http://www.gggaz.com/accucam-quick-detach-base-with-integral-30mm-rings-for-bolt-guns.html
Bobro - http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P48134.aspx
AD-DELTA - http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/365/

Waiting on scope to take some measurements on turrets etc, also really wish I had the stock to be able to judge appropriate height,
but I'm currently leaning toward the Bobro
 
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Irunning a ADM on a 260ai in a XLR stock. It does return to 0 for me and i only take it off when i clean it. Remember to push forward when remounting the scope, it makes a big differance.
 
I have Leupold QR Bases and Rings on my .375 H&H Mag...I also run two scopes for that rifle: a 1.5-6x24 when I'm thinking Brown Bear and a 3-9x40 when I'm planning Elk. Also, I may decide to ditch a scope (the rifle has good irons)...hence the QR mount. My Leupy set-up has a good return to zero capability.

FH
 
If a company other than Larue or ADM made low QD mounts, I'd be highly interested... a company like Bobro for example.

I'd love to remove the scopes on my bolt actions when putting the bolt action rifles in the safe.
 
I have zero use for QD mounts on a bolt gun. In spec pic rails, quality rings and 1/4 turn past finger tight get me better repeatabilty than any QD I've tried.
 
Is there a portable tool that allows for superior repeatability that one can use on mounts like Spuhr, Aadland, Seekins? Would love something like that.

How close is the repeatability?
 
sobrbiker883 said:
I have zero use for QD mounts on a bolt gun. In spec pic rails, quality rings and 1/4 turn past finger tight get me better repeatabilty than any QD I've tried.
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Same here. Precision rifles get properly torqued rings on them and they stay on there. No need or use for QD rings on my rifles.
 
The key benefit I see in QD mounts is the ability to have one high quality optic instead of two or more lesser quality optics. That said I only use QD on my AR's (15 and 10).
 
You can easily switch a scope between rifles with standard rings. I do it all the time with my Seekins rings and a torque wrench. Takes about 3 minutes and I know they won't move.
 
QD mounts on bolt guns amount to having the ability to quickly mount another scope. They are popular with folks going to Africa since it allows you to have a second optic ready and use the same rifle for plains and dangerous game. If you are going to hunt a lion in the evening and plains game during the day, you can shift the appropriate scopes on and off your rifle without the need to rezero.

Having a second optic ready to mount is also a good idea if you are traveling long distance. Since your scope is the weakest part of your rig, if you are in the bush and your scope breaks, without a back up you are out of the hunt.
 
Course it has to cost $105 for the basic kit. lol Well i suppose all the savings i'll get from buying non QD will be worth it. Ordering one. :p
 
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