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    Im Bi-curious..........thinking of adding a red dot sight to my iron sight inventory.

    Just bought this....I want to set it up for training, occasional CC use.

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    RDS ready and I understand it will have the ability to mount Sig, Leupold and Trijicon products.

    Ive considered Sigs offerings.

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    The upside...

    1. I can get a 10 percent discount
    2. Appears dot brightness is adjustable
    3. Batteries change topside
    4. They appear to back the product with replacement on any issue
    5. Looks like its trenched to co-witness with suppressor sights

    The downside

    1. Lots of people find they need a replacement.

    Leupold

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    The upside.....
    1. LEO Discount
    2. Parts made in USA
    3. Good CS
    4. Topside battery changes

    Downside....
    1. Perhaps I will need their CS at some point.
    2. If I want to adjust dot brightness its an extra $100 for the NV model

    Trijicon RMR


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    Upside

    1. Creme de la Creme
    2. Made in USA
    3. Brick shithouse
    4. Color options that more closely match my slide and appealing to my inner ghey.

    Downside

    1. Cost
    2. You have to remove the fucking thing to change the battery - sure you dont change them often but that is fucking retarded.

    Next I like the idea of Co-witness sights.

    How important is it?

    How possible is it?

    Looks like the housing on the Delta Point will prevent it. The Sig option has a cut to facilitate it. RMR housing looks so low that a suppressor rear will sight over it.

    Considering Sigs options....

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    and judging by this picture appears they offer the X-sight version....

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    Nice looking pistol by the way....sort of what I have in mind minus the threaded barrel.

    The X-Sights and these Trijicons

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    Appeal to me for the flared base on the front sight.

    Im going to shoot the gun for the first time in about an hour.

    I may like it so much in its present configuration that this doesnt matter.

    Maybe Ill RDS my M-18 instead.

    Any experience out there you can help me make my mind up.

    Decisions here will decide my holster options.
     
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    I went with the Trijicon, watched the shit out of Sage Dymanics RDS videos, and was off to the races!
    Ended up attending his class, now looking to RDS all the things.
    I am in my 50s and was noticing my front sight wasn't front sighting as good as it used to, and wanted to ease into the RDS transition. SO happy I took the plunge!
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    I'm sure some guys will sneer at this, but I have been really happy with the Bushnell RXS-250 on my Glock 19, and I also have one on a 9mm SBR. The window is large and forgiving, dot brightness is great, it's NV compatible, and you don't have to remove the damn thing to swap a battery. Battery life has not been an issue at all for CCW and semi-frequent range trips. The Forward Controls plate for the DPP works great with mine on the G19, but obviously that's not a help on your SIG.
     

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    I went with SwampFox. New to the game but very good reviews thus far and mine has been GTG as well. Bottom battery but that's how they keep them more compact, if that's important to you. My reasons for choosing was that it's a metal housing and glass lens. I went with always on/auto brightness and has been perfect for me.

     
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    Next I like the idea of Co-witness sights.

    How important is it?

    How possible is it?

    Looks like the housing on the Delta Point will prevent it.

    For the Delta Point Pro, this is the solution for co-witnessing:

     

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    Here's one that will probably co-witness with the OEM sights:
    Supposed to be the same mounting pattern as the Leupold. It's always-on and you will have to remove it to change the battery.
     

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    Never gets old!
    I have a vortex venom on a g40, Its held up well. I pulled the factory irons off and haven’t gotten around to getting some dawson irons for it.
     

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    Following as well. Just got the same pistol, shoots fantastic. Have a RMS on G20 (hog hunting) and DPP on G19. Not sure I want to rds this AXG but could see moving one of those rds’s to it and giving the G19 to my son - the Sig makes me not care too much about the Glock lol.
     
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    I went with the Holosun 507K for my HK P2000. The HK P2000 slide can’t be cut for optics due to some asinine lightweighting cut placement, so I needed to make a decision for an adapter to engineer and stick with it.

    Decision factors:
    • Not made of plastic
    • Slide width or less
    • Since the adapter needs to use the rear slide cutout, I wanted to pick something with a rear notch
    • Short height to allow proper-height front sight (custom suppressor height, unfortunately) to fit into my holsters
    • Strong preference for circle-dot reticle
    This decision was made before the RMRc came out, and so far it works great, including after dropping it a few times. In hindsight I would have bought a different pistol in the first place (fuck you California) that could have slide cuts made (or buy a pre-cut slide) but I fell in love with the trigger 🤷‍♂️
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    I'm sure some guys will sneer at this, but I have been really happy with the Bushnell RXS-250 on my Glock 19, and I also have one on a 9mm SBR. The window is large and forgiving, dot brightness is great, it's NV compatible, and you don't have to remove the damn thing to swap a battery. Battery life has not been an issue at all for CCW and semi-frequent range trips. The Forward Controls plate for the DPP works great with mine on the G19, but obviously that's not a help on your SIG.


    No sneering. Bushnell lately seems to be the girl people want to dance with for price/performance on some of their stuff.

    I looked at those three basically for their bolt pattern.

    There may be others I should consider.

    Many like the Holosun option. I start to get breathing issues though when I think chinesium.

    Kind of want to avoid anything that takes an adapter plate after watching a classmates RDS go flying off his gun while using one a couple weeks ago.
     

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    No sneering. Bushnell lately seems to be the girl people want to dance with for price/performance on some of their stuff.

    I looked at those three basically for their bolt pattern.

    There may be others I should consider.

    Many like the Holosun option. I start to get breathing issues though when I think chinesium.

    Kind of want to avoid anything that takes an adapter plate after watching a classmates RDS go flying off his gun while using one a couple weeks ago.
    Yeah, avoid the adapter plate if you can. Mine is beefy AF and doesn’t use screws as shear pins, but most are junk.

    Here’s the origin details of pretty much every handgun red dot sold in the US: https://sageratsafaris.com/micro-red-dot-sights-for-handguns/
     

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    For the Delta Point Pro, this is the solution for co-witnessing:



    Guessing that mount on the covered dovetail at the back of the Delta Point?

    It would allow me to try to windage adjust out my inability to press the trigger straight back and overcome my pushing shots left :)

    Does it have a registered FSP?
     

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    Never gets old!
    I have a vortex venom on a g40, Its held up well. I pulled the factory irons off and haven’t gotten around to getting some dawson irons for it.

    My 52-2 came with an earlier version on a grip mount....

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    I never tried this pistol with the Aimpoint because that level of accuracy would disrupt the time space continuum due to the stacking of 148 grn HBWC causing the lead pile to create an uncontrolled chain reaction resulting in the destruction of earth as we know it.

    Its almost criminal the former owner sold it in this destructive possession form whereby someone without my brains may have mated the 52 and the Aimpoint innocently enough and than unwittingly brought about the world destruction AOC continually preaches.
     

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    That's what I have on the back of my P320 M17 pattern pistol I posted a picture on the other day.

    You pop out the plastic cover in the back of the DPP and it slides into the dovetail grove.

    You actually have adjustable elevation setting using the attachment screw that holds it in place.
    Then the windage is right there, on the side, it has distinct clicks and a marker indicator for where it is at.

    You do need to make sure you have a high profile front sight for it all to work properly together.
     
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    My 52-2 came with an earlier version on a grip mount....

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    I never tried this pistol with the Aimpoint because that level of accuracy would disrupt the time space continuum due to the stacking of 148 grn HBWC causing the lead pile to create an uncontrolled chain reaction resulting in the destruction of earth as we know it.

    Its almost criminal the former owner sold it in this destructive possession form whereby someone without my brains may have mated the 52 and the Aimpoint innocently enough and than unwittingly brought about the world destruction AOC continually preaches.
    Love the golden age laser/sight tech stuff.
     
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    Be aware the Trij mounting holes are threaded 6-40, and screws are included in the RMR kit.

    Assumed to be truth based on one article I read.


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    I went with an RMR on my Scorpion. Basically cane down to reviews/durability and size. I wanted something I could CC.


    I wanted to dislike it. I tried to find faults in it.

    After a short familiarization, I was immediately in love.

    Months later, it's on my hip every day and we are still in love. I loved the Scorpion before the RMR...after the RMR, I feel much faster and accurate.
     

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    i have not had any issues with the older romeo1 on my sigs, but i have not dropped them (yet).
    i do prefer black out rear sights, so i like the xray3 suppressor sights, jmo.
     
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    No sneering. Bushnell lately seems to be the girl people want to dance with for price/performance on some of their stuff.

    I looked at those three basically for their bolt pattern.

    There may be others I should consider.

    Many like the Holosun option. I start to get breathing issues though when I think chinesium.

    Kind of want to avoid anything that takes an adapter plate after watching a classmates RDS go flying off his gun while using one a couple weeks ago.

    If you can direct mount a Delta Point Pro on the SIG, then the 250 should do the same thing.
     

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    I have a Sig Romeo 1 Pro on mine (in FDE with the black bash guard) and it has been a tank! Down side? Took it and my Trijicon equiped Nighthawks to Oklahoma on a cold foggy day. Pulled the sig out and if fogged like a mother! The Trijicon? Clear as a bell! Better coating for sure! But I do like the big window on the Sig so I guess I would get a Trijicon SRO if I did it again...
     
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    Just left the range........

    Sig must register their sights as "covering" holds and Im more used to holding a "lollipop".

    100 rds, only fail was one failure to lock back and thats like a regular thing with sig and high thumb holds. Remember it fondly from when I had a 226.

    First 17 rd mag.....distance about 13 yards. Top left was as I scavenged this target at the 100 yard rifle range.......yes I pick up your hardly used expensive targets and I own them with my guns.

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    First 50 rds

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    50 rds on a 50 foot pistol bull. Much tougher for me as Im near sighted and in order to see the FSP i shoot au naturel and the bull is "somewhere down there". With Sigs sight setup I also have to cover my intended impact point.

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    Porn...

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    You bastards Sig....you couldnt put the new style magazines with the individual capacity holes in your "Custom Shop" offering.....

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    I like it. I will benefit having an RDS on it with my eyes. I think it shoots pretty well now. It can only be made better....

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    Be aware the Trij mounting holes are threaded 6-40, and screws are included in the RMR kit.

    Assumed to be truth based on one article I read.


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    Sig now has a base plate....more like a weather protection plate for the RMR gasket......I think it comes with screws.

    The RMR is the RDS I want for its reputation/quality but that requirement it be removed for battery changes.?

    What is the RTZ after batery replacement?


    Another $30 if I go RMR.
     

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    Sig now has a base plate....more like a weather protection plate for the RMR gasket......I think it comes with screws.

    The RMR is the RDS I want for its reputation/quality but that requirement it be removed for battery changes.?

    What is the RTZ after batery replacement?

    RTZ depends on mounting solution, I'd assume. I have an older G17 that had the slide cut and RMR installed, and it's a TIGHT fit. I have done battery swaps on that setup with no change in zero before and after.
     

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    I went with an RMR on my Scorpion. Basically cane down to reviews/durability and size. I wanted something I could CC.


    I wanted to dislike it. I tried to find faults in it.

    After a short familiarization, I was immediately in love.

    Months later, it's on my hip every day and we are still in love. I loved the Scorpion before the RMR...after the RMR, I feel much faster and accurate.


    Is it true you got this tattoo on your chest?

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    RTZ depends on mounting solution, I'd assume. I have an older G17 that had the slide cut and RMR installed, and it's a TIGHT fit. I have done battery swaps on that setup with no change in zero before and after.
    Yep.

    If custom fit, counter sunk screws, fastidious with screw torque, why would it be off?

    IIRC the RMR leaves a small gap at the front of the 320 cut.

    I wonder if that lack of full support was the cause of recoil forces that lead to mount screws being upgraded.
     

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    Yep.

    If custom fit, counter sunk screws, fastidious with screw torque, why would it be off?

    IIRC the RMR leaves a small gap at the front of the 320 cut.

    I wonder if that lack of full support was the cause of recoil forces that lead to mount screws being upgraded.

    I'd guess that's the exact reason. The extra support is why I went to the FCD plate with my 250 on my G19. The 250 is a tough little sucker, but I want any extra stability I can add to a mounting system that's getting exposed to a bunch of Gs thousands of times over.
     

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    Can't go wrong with the RMR. Battery removal is so few and far between and The RTZ is pretty good from all accounts I have heard and seen. I see it kind of like a scope on a rifle, if you take the rings off of the receiver, then remount them in the same place with the same torque, things (zero) rarely shift. Just make sure you mount it well and consistently.

    If you are concerned about re-zeroing, then it means you just don't go to the range enough... it (confirming zero or referring) is easy enough to do. Once you look through it with nods on, it will be totally worth the possibility of an extra trip to the range every year or so... maybe even at night.
     
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    yeah, most sigs have "combat" sights where you put the dot on the spot you want to hit, not under it.
    you won't have to worry about that with the rds.
     

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    I have a lot of pistols with RDS, here are a few notes.
    First, it takes a bit getting used to the higher sight picture. I like most when you can have standard height sights co-wittness to the RDS.

    Not many RDS you can do that with, only one I have is a glock MOS with a shield in the special low mount.

    Next best is co-wittness with suppressor height sights. Note that some suppressor height sights are stupid tall. I have several Glocks with slides cut, that have the older deltapoint. NOT the Deltapoint Pro, the base on that is very thick. RMR and Vortex work for these.

    Beware of the thick bases, you wind up with no co-wittness or stupid high sights.

    Deltapoint Pro- nice for a RDS only, but not co-wittness. You probably cant find a front sight high enough to work with the rear add on sight they offer, I think it is for an AR setup with raised base.
     

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    Awesome info and help.

    My heart, if not my wallet, is beating for

    1. RMR
    2. Trijicon P320 Suppressor height sites
    3. Possibly the Sig Sauer P320 XRay-3 Day/Night suppressor height sights. I know they make them as evidenced in the picture above but they dont show on the sig Website.
     

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    Awesome info and help.

    My heart, if not my wallet, is beating for

    1. RMR
    2. Trijicon P320 Suppressor height sites
    3. Possibly the Sig Sauer P320 XRay-3 Day/Night suppressor height sights. I know they make them as evidenced in the picture above but they dont show on the sig Website.
    they didn't used to maybe, but here is a link. out of stock pretty much everywhere right now, but you can backorder.


    these were bought 25 years apart, but i added the rx slide afterwards, which came with the same.
    i run the same normal height sights on my p229 as well.

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    they didn't used to maybe, but here is a link. out of stock pretty much everywhere right now, but you can backorder.


    these were bought 25 years apart, but i added the rx slide afterwards, which came with the same.
    i run the same normal height sights on my p229 as well.

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    More than just a news source right here......:)
     

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    they didn't used to maybe, but here is a link. out of stock pretty much everywhere right now, but you can backorder.


    these were bought 25 years apart, but i added the rx slide afterwards, which came with the same.
    i run the same normal height sights on my p229 as well.

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    Sig XRay3 vs Trijicon

    Sig Front Height 9.5mm/.374"

    Trijicon Front Height .914mm/.36"

    Sig Rear Height 10.59mm/.417"

    Trijicon Rear Height 8.96mm/.353"

    Do experienced users see a preference for one over the other.

    Gut instinct tells me taller is better assuming it doesnt impede the view of the glass too much.

    Am I overthinking the "co-witness" ability.

    On my rifle if I line up my irons the dot will sit on top of my rifle FSP.

    I never use it that way though, I might if I was bearing down for a tough shot.

    I want irons that are useful more so for backup if the RDS goes down. Something that if need be I can clear the shattered glass and continue to shoot.

    Edit - Screwed up the heights of the Trijicon "blades" originally. It now shows the useful measurement not overall height. So the Sig product went from being shorter to taller. I sent a question to Sig to clarify the measurement is "useful height" not overall height as they dont specify or show a schematic....
     
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    Sig XRay3 vs Trijicon

    Sig Front Height 9.5mm/.374"

    Trijicon Front Height .914mm/.36"

    Sig Rear Height 10.59mm/.417"

    Trijicon Rear Height 8.96mm/.353"

    Do experienced users see a preference for one over the other.

    Gut instinct tells me taller is better assuming it doesnt impede the view of the glass too much.

    Am I overthinking the "co-witness" ability.

    On my rifle if I line up my irons the dot will sit on top of my rifle FSP.

    I never use it that way though, I might if I was bearing down for a tough shot.

    I want irons that are useful more so for backup if the RDS goes down. Something that if need be I can clear the shattered glass and continue to shoot.

    Edit - Screwed up the heights of the Trijicon "blades" originally. It now shows the useful measurement not overall height. So the Sig product went from being shorter to taller. I sent a question to Sig to clarify the measurement is "useful height" not overall height as they dont specify or show a schematic....
    well i am no expert, with only 2 years behind the rds, but i do a lot of dry fire (laser targets). i've had rds or rmr on rifles and shotguns for a long time, and for me the best part is both eyes open and focusing on the target instead of the front sight. especially with old eyes.

    since you mention the combat sight picture of the irons, i will say for myself, when i preset the rds i have the dot above the sights, while if i am using the irons, the dot in just behind the front sight (still combat picture). so not on purpose, i have a tiny tilt. not sure if that is normal. but i have no issues reverting to the irons in drills.

    one tip i would give if you have not tried rds on a pistol is do not look for the dot.
    i see people wiggling the pistol trying to bring the dot into the picture.
    present the pistol just like you are used to with iron sights and the dot will be there.
     

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    Maybe an unpopular opinion but I really dislike suppressor height or taller sights co-witnessed with a dot, especially an RMR. The tall sights generally take up a considerable amount of field of view through the glass and it makes shooting the dot more complex for you eyes instead of easier.
    I prefer a “low-witness” set of sights that are maybe 1/16” above the optic. Leaving maximal room in the optic for your eye to observe your target through, uncluttered; making it easy to superimpose the dot. Then if necessary, you can still get a usable sight picture via irons as a secondary. Letting your back ups be backups…not a “partial primary” and ruining half the benefit of shooting a dot.

    I have also seen pretty much every optic break, to include an RMR. Regardless of ratings and tests they can all break, so get the one that’s generally reputable but also very easy to shoot. Because a DPP or SRO is so much nicer to shoot than an RMR. That being said my issued pistol dot is an RMR and I don’t complain. Lol YMMV

    My preferred sight picture with a dot. Big, open window, sights just barely there but still usable if I had to. This is my CO gun, Vortex Venom with TTI fibers.
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    I’ve had no issues at all with my Sig Romeo on my P320. It’s my primary CCW firearm. Holds zero. Good battery life. I’ve abused this gun and it just keeps trucking along
     

    theLBC

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    meh, i suppose as somebody else said, some are really high.
    i don't find it to be an issue, but then i also don't have the latest greatest. mine looks like this.

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    264win

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    If you want made in US go with the Trijicon.
    If you want to spend less $$ go with holosun.
    I have and like both, and believe they are the best options in their perspective price ranges.
     
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    Trijicon RMR dual power fiber optic/tritium no batteries 9 MOA dot remember that’s at 100 yards I’ve running my first one for 6 years now for competition 12.9 MOA dot. My 2nd now is on a CZ P10 9moa for carry Moved from a SW M+P tough , reliable
     

    Mauser06

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    Wanted to mention...the return to zero "potential "

    I barely had to adjust my RMR. I fine tuned it. But it'd served it purpose need be.

    Battery life is 4 years. I plan to change mine once a year when I do my patrol rifle which I also leave on.

    Not a big deal for me. I will goto the range and verify zero. If it shifted..not a big deal.


    As far as suppressor height sights...I see both sides. If it fails you have no back up. But.. they are obnoxious in size and I could see them defeating the beauty of the red dot.

    I am also fear they'd snag on my shirt or leather.


    For curiosity sake, next time I'm shooting I will try shooting with no dot. I bet I'm still deadly out to 10yds. Just because muscle memory...I don't really use irons within 10yds..it'll probably print pretty well center of window.
     
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    I use Delta Point Pro's on these three and some RMR's on Glocks.
    Like a pair of shoes you need to try them on, wear them, decide what works for you.
    Virtually of the quality mfg's will provide a durable optic.

    When it comes to cost, nowadays a single 1000 round case of 9 mm costs more than the most expensive red dot!, kind of like buying a printer and finding out the cartridges will equal the printer cost after two changes.

    I use Safariland holsters almost exclusively if available.
    The GLS style works with optic mountings. IF you need RDS protection the Safariland RDS choices are solid kit.
    The Leupold adjustable height rear sight is a must for any co-witnessing ambitions, mostly lower 1/3 with tall Dawson front sights.
    The original factory sights on the X-VTAC were ridiculously low for a optic-ready slide; the beaver tails on all the modules way too prominent for quick holster indexing.

    This poor soul was born a X-VTAC with little to like about it.
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    SD Carpenter

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    I run the sig and dpp on my 320's. They are both good.

    The sig, like trijicon, is more convenient for ccw because it has the brightness buttons on the outside, versus pushing the 1 button on the Leupold multiple times.
     

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    I’ve run Trijicon, Leupold and Sig RDS on different pistols. Like them all for different reasons. Currently my EDC pistol is a Sig 320 with the Romeo sight. Love the combo. Somehow I ended up cracking the glass on the rds to the point that a small chunk actually fell out. By angling the pistol you could still see the red dot in what was left of the window. Called Sig CS and they told me that I could have hit it with a hammer and they would still warranty it. They emailed me a FedEx return label and a week and a half later I had a replacement sight in hand. Awesomeness! Honestly can’t remember why the glass cracked. I have been carrying my 320 for almost two years.