Remington 700 vs rpr

[Snakeboyaz]

Hello everyone,
New guy here looking for opinions. Kids are older now and time & resources finally allow me to spend more time on hobbies and I’m wanting to start doing some long range shooting. Recently put together a Ruger American predator 223 as an inexpensive to shoot rifle so I can get lots of practice in but am also wanting something more suited for 500-1000yds or more. I’ve got 2 options I’m looking into.
Option 1
-upgrade a Remington 700 sendero 7mm that I already own and has maybe 100 rounds on it. Thinking of threading The barrel for a suppressor, something like that an MDT oryx chassis and possibly and new trigger.
Option 2
-buy a new ruger precision in 6.5creedmoor

I’m going to buy a suppressor irregardless and if I use the 7mm it’s getting a new scope so those costs don’t factor in either way. Do I put $600-1000 into the Remington or is it worth spending $1600-1800 on the Ruger?

 

[oldrifleman]

You said shooting 500-1000 yards. What will be your distance 75-85 % of the time? There are those who do a 1000 yards with a long heavy 223 even more figure 5-700 to be easy with a lighter weight 223 bullet. Do you reload or are you using factory ammo? For a 1000 assuming this is where the majority of your shooting will be I really don’t like either option. To do 1000 I would get an Origen action, pva Prefit TT trigger and the chassis of your choice. I know Josh at PVA will never believe it but I would see what barreled action he has it could be your best path. Calling @bohem
Factory 700 action barrel combinations will lead to frustration and eventually to spending more money with additional changes. The Ruger is a better platform but is also limiting. Many, many of us here have gone down these same paths and spent many time the initial starting cost to get a reliable platform.

 

[4g64loser]

Agree with old oldrifleman. Do not pizz money away on factory actions/guns. I wish I had all the money I spent on that crap.back. and its a lot of money. I've owned 9x 700s, all some level of custom. I REALLY wish that zermatt and ARC had existed when I started.

The frustration of constant fault chasing is maddening.

As to chambering, pick that based on use case. I'm a big proponent of having multiple bolts (or.bolt heads, in the case of zermatt and ARC) so you can have a trainer barrel, probably a 223, in the exact rifle you normally shoot in 6, 6.5, or 308. I can, and do, regularly bang steel at 1000yds with both 223 and 308 rifles. The 6 and 6.5 options make the wind calls easier, for sure, but one of my 308s shades a lot of 6.5 factory ammo for drop at 1000 (155 Palmas at 2930). Makes people do double takes when they see what I'm dialed to and a 308 case comes out of the action.

 

[FuhQ]

The 700 is good... I wouldn't own an RPR, personally...

However, there's another option that I'd definitely choose over both... If you were willing to spend up to $1,800 on an RPR, spend $2,100 on a truly comp-ready rifle that is far ahead of the RPR in both versatility and aftermarket parts availablity...AND it uses Origin prefit barrels, so you can find barrels for it from just about every major barrel manufacturer out there. And you can change the barrels at home yourself with minimal tools, and a YouTube video.

Brownells actually has one in stock! They're pretty scarce these days...

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[FremontCo45]

If you go the remington route MDT has screaming deals on thanksgiving for their blem chassis. I'd wait for that. I like my oryx chassis, but I love my acc elite! I also second the custom route. I'm shooting a Bregara b14, last year it had the factory 6.5 creed, now it has a 6 dasher barrel. I keep wanting an Impact 737r. My friends like their origins quite well, I'd go that route. The prices for older Remingtons isn't going down in factory condition. They're collector guns. As far as the RPR goes I had a gen 1 in 308. It was fun, first rifle I hit at 1000 yds. I would have prefered 6.5 but found the 308 first. For $1100 they were worth it. Now at $1600+ I'd recommend something else.

 

[Turkeytider]

Just out of curiosity, and because I don’t hand load, does anyone know of a factory load in .223 that would give one at least a chance at 1,000 yards ? I have the rifle/ barrel/ twist that I think would do it. Thanks.

 

[UKMan]

Absolutely love my Custom shop RPR in 6.5cm, it’s ridiculously accurate and have taken it out to a mile on multiple occasions. Ruger has also taken care of me in the past with other firearms in the warranty department with zero questions asked. You could also look at (alittle more expensive) the Seekins Havak HIT. They have a quick change barrel on them which looks super nice if you wanted to get the 6.5cm and then have a .223 barrel as well (but looking at more money). Seekins also has legendary customer service.

Food for thought, the RPR can take the same mags as most AR10 (in case you ever wanted to get one). I have a Seekins SP10 and can swap magazines back and forth between the two which at the end of the day isn’t a big cost savings but convenient.

 

[Big Phish]

Just out of curiosity, and because I don’t hand load, does anyone know of a factory load in .223 that would give one at least a chance at 1,000 yards ? I have the rifle/ barrel/ twist that I think would do it. Thanks.

Hornady 73gr vld but super hard to do if winds are in play. If you can read winds then go for it.

 

[4g64loser]

Just out of curiosity, and because I don’t hand load, does anyone know of a factory load in .223 that would give one at least a chance at 1,000 yards ? I have the rifle/ barrel/ twist that I think would do it. Thanks.

Do it all the time with berger 80.5gr loaded in shell shock cases. Black arc ammo loads em.

Was smashing 10in plates with a (highly customized) JP and a seekins gasgun that belong to my buddy. He uses that ammo in QP matches.

Since I handload (and prefer boltguns) I generally just load witchfingers using 77rdf or 80smk.

 

[supercorndogs]

223 sucks for 1k. If shooting 1k all the time is your goal, get something else. Match 223 ammo costs about the same as match ammo for other more capable long range cartridges. If you're reloading 223 can be marginally cheaper, but still sucks in the wind.

 

[Turkeytider]

223 sucks for 1k. If shooting 1k all the time is your goal, get something else. Match 223 ammo costs about the same as match ammo for other more capable long range cartridges. If you're reloading 223 can be marginally cheaper, but still sucks in the wind.

No, just wondering about .223 since I enjoy shooting them. Our club range only goes to 500. Have only shot to 1,000 with my Tikka in 6.5 CM.

 

[Turkeytider]

Hornady 73gr vld but super hard to do if winds are in play. If you can read winds then go for it.

LOL! It gets sporty at 500 yards in a breeze at our club range. Shooting at 3 and 4” gongs is plenty challenging with factory ammo under those circumstances.

 

[Markbsae]

I've shot R700's in .308 win and 22-250 for quite a few years now, all hand loads. Both are 26" heavy target barrels. I finally pulled the trigger on a RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor about 3 months ago and I'm surprised how effortlessly you can shoot the thing accurately. I have added a Vortex viper gen II 5-25x50 and a warne bipod and nothing else. The one thing I plan to change in the future is the trigger as I'm not a fan of that blade style safety so a Timney is on the list. I have shot a lot of Hornady Match 140's as well as 142 grain match kings with lapua brass and H4350 all with great results.