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Statistics don't lie.

Unwanted children are a burden on the parents, the schools, the state and the corrections system.

Most of the kids are fucked before they have a chance at a decent life.

Single mothers raising children is the cause of alot of today's issues we are dealing with.

Until every orphan no matter how fucked up they are (many are abandoned or given to state due to physical or mental issues, not to mention the mother being a crack head/heroin/meth drunk and the kid being fucked up from birth from that) has a loving family who is willing to adopt and care (IE pay the full cost) then how can you deem its society's responsibility? I do not want to pay for it and would not burden another American taxpayer to do it either.

Ruin a young woman's life because she made a mistake? Not only ruin her life but ruin the kids life and create generations of welfare recipients that is a never ending cycle because no one is there to teach them how to be a human.

Humans are wired to fuck. Its our most strong instinctual drive and you can't change that. We have the technology to change DNA, selectively breed and do a ton of crazy shit no one could have dreamed of a 100 years ago.

Legal abortions are one the greatest things to happen to this nation and have probably slowed the slide into socialism by killing off a future socialists before they have a chance to fuck it up. Its in EVERYONES best interest that people who do not want kids, are allowed to abort them in some reasonable time which honestly i have no idea what that is, the courts and congress can decide.
“Humans are wired to fuck.”
More like Humans are wired to kill hence why we have abortions.
I know if I f__k and get pregnant therefore I can kill.
 
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Will the same fences and barriers be erected around the Court as for Congress? Will states' National Guards be brought in to maintain order? Will Admiral Levine take the lead on this important women's issue?
 
the story is never over till the socialist snowflakes are running through the streets crying that they now have to pay for there own birth control wonder if it really will be overturned .
 
Roberts changed his vote on Obamacare after the drafts were written.
You are correct I remember that. I believe Roberts views himself as some sort of savior of the republic & votes to keep the peace by putting his finger in the air so to speak and following
constitutional law is secondary.

In general I worry more about Gorsuch not knowing which hat he decides to put on each day. Will it be the conservative hat, the libertarian hat, or the liberal hat?
 
Statistics don't lie.

Unwanted children are a burden on the parents, the schools, the state and the corrections system.

Most of the kids are fucked before they have a chance at a decent life.

Single mothers raising children is the cause of alot of today's issues we are dealing with.

Until every orphan no matter how fucked up they are (many are abandoned or given to state due to physical or mental issues, not to mention the mother being a crack head/heroin/meth drunk and the kid being fucked up from birth from that) has a loving family who is willing to adopt and care (IE pay the full cost) then how can you deem its society's responsibility? I do not want to pay for it and would not burden another American taxpayer to do it either.

Ruin a young woman's life because she made a mistake? Not only ruin her life but ruin the kids life and create generations of welfare recipients that is a never ending cycle because no one is there to teach them how to be a human.

Humans are wired to fuck. Its our most strong instinctual drive and you can't change that. We have the technology to change DNA, selectively breed and do a ton of crazy shit no one could have dreamed of a 100 years ago.

Legal abortions are one the greatest things to happen to this nation and have probably slowed the slide into socialism by killing off a future socialists before they have a chance to fuck it up. Its in EVERYONES best interest that people who do not want kids, are allowed to abort them in some reasonable time which honestly i have no idea what that is, the courts and congress can decide.

You should have been aborted
 
This has nothing to do with a SCOTUS case. This is George Floyd 2.0

Social media has given the masses something new to be outraged over and BLM will be queued up to start destroying any and everything. Liberal cities will start burning before the weekend arrives.

6 new justices will be installed after the midterms.

Rule of law is dead. No one is coming for you. You're on your own, amigo.
 
Its congress's fault. They never addressed the issue on a federal level...

This is by design. There is an entire industry built up around fundraising off Roe--on both the left and the right.

As a legislator once told me on another hot topic: "but if we when, then how would we fundraise?"
 
This just looks like an attempt to pressure the court to tone down/alter the opinon by leaking an incomplete draft. If this is real the court is going to be looking real hard for the source of that leak.
Likely done by a leftie, who, if discovered, will be held up as a hero by the left. Another form of civil disobedience against 'hatred'. Apparently the FBI is called in to ferret out the weasel. Count on them to get to the 'truth' as approved by the swamp.
 
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Will the same fences and barriers be erected around the Court as for Congress? Will states' National Guards be brought in to maintain order? Will Admiral Levine take the lead on this important women's issue?
I expect the lefties to storm the Supreme Court over this, and it will be deemed a 'mostly peaceful demonstration', nothing to see, nothing to worry about, right msm?
 
I don't want to be contributing to funding the murder of babies. All these excuses to sanctify murder is bs. Everyone knows its absolutely wrong, just as putting the decision in federal hands is wrong. The states have all authority not specifically granted to the feds, and I truly hope this absolute insanity of murdering babies gets stopped. Our country has gone down hill since this barbaric insanity "became legal" (as if any government has the authority to allow murder).

That said, I don't trust the yellow bellied "Justices" to actually do what is constitutional and right.... accept Claremce Thomas. He and A.S. (God rest his soul) have been the only real constitutionally aligned Justices for some time, though Alito is pretty solid most of the time.
 

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Statistics don't lie.

Unwanted children are a burden on the parents, the schools, the state and the corrections system.

Most of the kids are fucked before they have a chance at a decent life.

Single mothers raising children is the cause of alot of today's issues we are dealing with.

Until every orphan no matter how fucked up they are (many are abandoned or given to state due to physical or mental issues, not to mention the mother being a crack head/heroin/meth drunk and the kid being fucked up from birth from that) has a loving family who is willing to adopt and care (IE pay the full cost) then how can you deem its society's responsibility? I do not want to pay for it and would not burden another American taxpayer to do it either.

Ruin a young woman's life because she made a mistake? Not only ruin her life but ruin the kids life and create generations of welfare recipients that is a never ending cycle because no one is there to teach them how to be a human.

Humans are wired to fuck. Its our most strong instinctual drive and you can't change that. We have the technology to change DNA, selectively breed and do a ton of crazy shit no one could have dreamed of a 100 years ago.

Legal abortions are one the greatest things to happen to this nation and have probably slowed the slide into socialism by killing off a future socialists before they have a chance to fuck it up. Its in EVERYONES best interest that people who do not want kids, are allowed to abort them in some reasonable time which honestly i have no idea what that is, the courts and congress can decide.
Stop paying women to raise bastard kids in fatherless homes and the rates will decrease.
If I put an ad in the local paper saying I'll pay $1,000/month for someone to mow my yard, my phone would blow up with people wanting the job.
Likewise, when government advertises it will pay people for making poor life choices, people will volunteer.
Instead of killing a baby to avoid the consequences of randomly sleeping around, women could avail themselves of the numerous methods of birth control that doesn't include murder.
Better still, they could get counseling for their daddy issues instead of slinging coochie like a t-shirt launcher at a ball game in a sad attempt to get the male attention they missed as a child.
 
Stop paying women to raise bastard kids in fatherless homes and the rates will decrease.
If I put an ad in the local paper saying I'll pay $1,000/month for someone to mow my yard, my phone would blow up with people wanting the job.
Likewise, when government advertises it will pay people for making poor life choices, people will volunteer.
Instead of killing a baby to avoid the consequences of randomly sleeping around, women could avail themselves of the numerous methods of birth control that doesn't include murder.
Better still, they could get counseling for their daddy issues instead of slinging coochie like a t-shirt launcher at a ball game in a sad attempt to get the male attention they missed as a child.
Not to mention our society would improve dramatically and illegal immigration would drop considerably, if we didn't provide huge incentive to raise kids in fatherless homes. Of course we'd actually have less dem voters that way too, so ..... this notion that abortion equals less dem voters just doesn't hold water with the reality of the last 40 years.
 
Not to mention our society would improve dramatically and illegal immigration would drop considerably, if we didn't provide huge incentive to raise kids in fatherless homes. Of course we'd actually have less dem voters that way too, so ..... this notion that abortion equals less dem voters just doesn't hold water with the reality of the last 40 years.
Everything the left offers is based on avoiding personal responsibility and/or getting free stuff.
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, government housing, welfare, food stamps, abortion, and gun control are the holy grails of the left and all fit the description above.
Return to personal responsibility and consequences and the left goes away.
 
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Everything the left offers is based on avoiding personal responsibility and/or getting free stuff.
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, government housing, welfare, food stamps, abortion, and gun control are the hily grails of the left and all fit the description above.
Return to personal responsibility and consequences and the left goes away.
Well said and absolutely right.
 
as said before in previous posts, the amount of abortions will not change some women will just have to drive farther as many states already have laws

best case is that they can use this as Case Law to bring back some power from the fed to the states

...actually no....the best case is i dont have to hear this stupid question at every debate ever again
 
It ain’t about abortion.

It‘s about who gets to decide about abortion.




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Simple solution.

Ask the living being about to be aborted.

"Do you want to be sucked up a hose, kid?
 
Statistics don't lie.

Unwanted children are a burden on the parents, the schools, the state and the corrections system.

Most of the kids are fucked before they have a chance at a decent life.

Single mothers raising children is the cause of alot of today's issues we are dealing with.

Until every orphan no matter how fucked up they are (many are abandoned or given to state due to physical or mental issues, not to mention the mother being a crack head/heroin/meth drunk and the kid being fucked up from birth from that) has a loving family who is willing to adopt and care (IE pay the full cost) then how can you deem its society's responsibility? I do not want to pay for it and would not burden another American taxpayer to do it either.

Ruin a young woman's life because she made a mistake? Not only ruin her life but ruin the kids life and create generations of welfare recipients that is a never ending cycle because no one is there to teach them how to be a human.

Humans are wired to fuck. Its our most strong instinctual drive and you can't change that. We have the technology to change DNA, selectively breed and do a ton of crazy shit no one could have dreamed of a 100 years ago.

Legal abortions are one the greatest things to happen to this nation and have probably slowed the slide into socialism by killing off a future socialists before they have a chance to fuck it up. Its in EVERYONES best interest that people who do not want kids, are allowed to abort them in some reasonable time which honestly i have no idea what that is, the courts and congress can decide.
Your words are evil and full of lies. You would choose to take make people not accountable for their actions and what a horrible bitter view you have on humanity and life. The problem is not unwanted children. The problem is people who refuse to be a parent, after they've helped create a new life. Choosing to get pregnant, while single is a challenge that can be overcome, without murdering the unborn. A child has NEVER ruined a parent's life by being born. The problem is a Godless society and destruction of the traditional Christian family. The statement that legal abortions are a great thing is purely demonic.
 
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This was always a states issue. The federal gov has zero authority in this area. Go read Casey and tell me that it isn't obvious that the judges didn't know the legal foundation for Roe didn't exist.

As others have said it'll be kicked back to the states and not a whole lot will likely change immediately. It will allow for more change over time on a state by state basis which is how it always should have been.
 
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Probably an unpopular opinion around here but I’m all for abortions. Keeps the fuckers off the dole. I’m not talking about sucking out kids a couple days before they’re due, but I went to the clinic with my high school girlfriend for a morning after pill more than once. The people who shouldn’t be having kids are cranking out the most. The ones who should have kids aren’t getting abortions. Less ticks sucking off the government and voting left is always a good thing in my book. The big issue is I too believe that this will be the catalyst that biden uses to pack the court, then we’re all even more fucked than we are now. And we’re already pretty fucked.
You're just like the folks you're criticizing. You refuse to be accountable and keep your dick in your pants. You'd rather do a the morning after pill than use a condom? Your attitude is part of the problem.
 
I hope it passes and they take it further to ban abortions, totally. Abortions are the epitome of selfishness and evil. It's the same, as the Biblical writings of child sacrifice at the alter of molok, only this is sacrificing the unborn at the alter of the self. It's evil and demonic in origin and a horrible stain on our nation that we would allow it. It is murder of the unborn.
 
This was always a states issue. The federal gov has zero authority in this area. Go read Casey and tell me that it isn't obvious that the judges didn't know the legal foundation for Roe didn't exist.

As others have said it'll be kicked back to the states and not a whole lot will likely change immediately. It will allow for more change over time on a state by state basis which is how it always should have been.
Exactly.
 
This was always a states issue. The federal gov has zero authority in this area. Go read Casey and tell me that it isn't obvious that the judges didn't know the legal foundation for Roe didn't exist.

As others have said it'll be kicked back to the states and not a whole lot will likely change immediately. It will allow for more change over time on a state by state basis which is how it always should have been.

100% casey showed how the ruling was contrived to be BS, it was a wondering path trying to get to a end point rather than a straight path of logic

not saying right or wrong but the process in which the case was argued, so i dont want to start debating the morality of abortion

this is ALL about the states rights not babies

it just so happens to be abortion as the topic because its so polarizing


the US is based on states rights, if the fed can control what the states can do .....eliminate all the state lines as your location of choice has nothing to do with rights and style of living and everything to do with topography

im actually interested how the party of "science" will deal with this once past the noise of "baby killers etc", the next steps are the ones the get real muddy

the spin will be old white men / bible thumpers / fly-over country etc

but thats just the spin not the underlying congressional, constitutional ramifications

possibly getting congress to pass legislation and not bills, this can be very far reaching over the next 20-30 years


most likely this is the most important piece of legislation we will see in our lifetimes
 
The mere fact of having a choice to whether or not to kill your baby is evil in itself. This should never have been a method of birth control that it has become.

Society has demeaned itself by making this acceptable, even a "right", and has opened the door to making all sorts of "stuff" acceptable as well.

If life doesn't matter then what does?

Welcome to America, the land of the freak.
 
All of them that "need" an abortion out of convenience, should also be given a hysterectomy. No, not tie the tubes, that can be reversed, make it a one stop solution.
 
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100% casey showed how the ruling was contrived to be BS, it was a wondering path trying to get to a end point rather than a straight path of logic

not saying right or wrong but the process in which the case was argued, so i dont want to start debating the morality of abortion

this is ALL about the states rights not babies

it just so happens to be abortion as the topic because its so polarizing


the US is based on states rights, if the fed can control what the states can do .....eliminate all the state lines as your location of choice has nothing to do with rights and style of living and everything to do with topography

im actually interested how the party of "science" will deal with this once past the noise of "baby killers etc", the next steps are the ones the get real muddy

the spin will be old white men / bible thumpers / fly-over country etc

but thats just the spin not the underlying congressional, constitutional ramifications

possibly getting congress to pass legislation and not bills, this can be very far reaching over the next 20-30 years


most likely this is the most important piece of legislation we will see in our lifetimes

I agree very much on the point that you never here an abortion supporting politician try and argue that the states have no power to make their own laws. That is essentially the legal ramification of Roe.

The constitution is and the founders where clear that any powers not given specifically to the fed are reserved for the states. Roe basically tossed that baby out with the bath water, pun intended.

I object to abortion both morally and religiously which are effectively the same thing which is another debate entirely but that isn't why Roe should be overturned.

If Roe is overturned, and I think its still a big if it will be very interesting to see what the Left does in response. Threaten to pack the court, that's ganna get Conservatives out to vote in record numbers I imagine. Try to pass legislation on the federal level, I think will likely have the same effect.
 
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This should not be a federal issue. States right IMO. Federal laws on abortion are outside the scope of what the federal government should be concerned with.

It’s obvious there is a great divide on people’s feeling of what is right and when life begins. Allowing different areas (states)to decide on a path forward gives both sides what they want, regardless of where you fall on the issue.

I support individual states freedom to make decisions on this matter and many many others.
 
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Maybe they should have been aborted? This really challenges my stance on it...

Crazy far leftist aborting kids means no brainwashed kid, but it’s also killing a baby, shit.
This would certainly influence my stance...

 
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Your words are evil and full of lies. How you would choose to take make people not accountable for their actions and what a horrible bitter view you have on humanity and life. The problem is not unwanted children. The problem is people who refuse to be a parent, after they've helped create a new life. Choosing to get pregnant, while single is a challenge that can be overcome, without murdering the unborn. A child has NEVER ruined a parent's life by being born. The problem is a Godless society and destruction of the traditional Christian family. The statement that legal abortions are a great thing is purely demonic.
Oh cry me a river. Some of you live in fantasy land.

Not everyone is fit to be a parent because they were never given the tools to be a productive adult themselves.

Its an endless cycle of poorly raised kids becoming shit adults who in turn pop out kids who have little chance of being productive adults.

What do you think happens when a 16 or 18 year old girl gets pregnant? There goes chance at college, there goes finding a partner who is not a broken piece of shit too. That kid will most likely be raised in a household that is not financially prepared to raise it.


Everyone of you who wants to outlaw abortion, How many orphans have you adopted? Its no different than Liberals who want welfare, but don't want to pay for it. Its easy to make a decision when other people have bear the burden. You talk about accountability but are you willing to be accountable and responsible for the morals you want others to abide by?


Which god(s) are you talking about? The Christian one? Jewish? Muslim? Hindu? Greek Gods? Norse gods? Santa?
 
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Stop paying women to raise bastard kids in fatherless homes and the rates will decrease.
If I put an ad in the local paper saying I'll pay $1,000/month for someone to mow my yard, my phone would blow up with people wanting the job.
Likewise, when government advertises it will pay people for making poor life choices, people will volunteer.
Instead of killing a baby to avoid the consequences of randomly sleeping around, women could avail themselves of the numerous methods of birth control that doesn't include murder.
Better still, they could get counseling for their daddy issues instead of slinging coochie like a t-shirt launcher at a ball game in a sad attempt to get the male attention they missed as a child.
Sure let me know when that happens.

Or we could live in the real world and talk about solutions that are feasible.
 
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Let me adjust my tinfoil hate prior to typing this.

What if this is a plan to get the left spooled up to start a major push for court packing, and none of it is true. What if there is no leak, and no brief, like it was said before, a leak has never happened before in the history of the supreme court. With the left's control of the media, and thus the narrative, any dissenting statements against the narrative can be eliminated. We all know that the left has been foaming at the mouth over the conservative majority of SCOTUS, and have floated the idea of court packing more than once. They could be using this and fuel for a fire to push actual court packing now.

Branden
 
This was always a states issue. The federal gov has zero authority in this area. Go read Casey and tell me that it isn't obvious that the judges didn't know the legal foundation for Roe didn't exist.

As others have said it'll be kicked back to the states and not a whole lot will likely change immediately. It will allow for more change over time on a state by state basis which is how it always should have been.
That's correct. This is why the left is always so worried about it being overturned. They know there was NEVER any legal basis for it to begin with. We DESPERATELY need States rights to be empowered as they were always supposed to be. It's the only chance we have at survival. If we are able to come back from this disaster we find ourselves in, it will be only by States Rightful power being restored over that of the Federal government.
 
Which god(s) are you talking about? The Christian one? Jewish? Muslim? Hindu? Greek Gods? Norse gods? Santa?
SMH. Santa is not a god. I mean, the literal translation is "Saint." So, more of a demigod. A female demigod...
 
Step 1- Roe v Wade
Step 2- GCA 1986
Step 3- GCA 1968
Step 4- GCA 1934
 
Oh cry me a river. Some of you live in fantasy land.

Not everyone is fit to be a parent because they were never given the tools to be a productive adult themselves.

Its an endless cycle of poorly raised kids becoming shit adults who in turn pop out kids who have little chance of being productive adults.

What do you think happens when a 16 or 18 year old girl gets pregnant? There goes chance at college, there goes finding a partner who is not a broken piece of shit too. That kid will most likely be raised in a household that is not financially prepared to raise it.


Everyone of you who wants to outlaw abortion, How many orphans have you adopted? Its no different than Liberals who want welfare, but don't want to pay for it. Its easy to make a decision when other people have bear the burden. You talk about accountability but are you willing to be accountable and responsible for the morals you want others to abide by?


Which god(s) are you talking about? The Christian one? Jewish? Muslim? Hindu? Greek Gods? Norse gods? Santa?
I am very well grounded in reality and I know who I am.
Fit/Unfit parent is NOT the issue. Parenting can be learned.
Properly/Poorly raised kids is NOT the issue. Parenting can be learned.
Finances are NOT the issue. Our taxes take very good care of those impoverished by choice, or by chance and there are still plethora opportunities to improve ones status in this country.
Murdering the unborn, thinking it benefits anyone IS the issue and it is evil.
There is only one God and it is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. His son was born a man and died on the cross, so we could be forgiven of our sins and His name is Jesus.
 
You're just like the folks you're criticizing. You refuse to be accountable and keep your dick in your pants. You'd rather do a the morning after pill than use a condom? Your attitude is part of the problem.

You must live a life of virtue that is a model all others should aspire to.

Here is a news flash. We live in a Secular society and not everyone believes in your deity or any at all. No one gives a fuck about your beliefs or morals other than you have the right to live by them. We don't.

The solution is to ignore 2 millions years of evolutionary programing which is one of our strongest instincts to fuck each other. The solution is just don't? Bolt Strategy cotton, lets see if it works out.
 
You must live a life of virtue that is a model all others should aspire to.

Here is a news flash. We live in a Secular society and not everyone believes in your deity or any at all. No one gives a fuck about your beliefs or morals other than you have the right to live by them. We don't.

The solution is to ignore 2 millions years of evolutionary programing which is one of our strongest instincts to fuck each other. The solution is just don't? Bolt Strategy cotton, lets see if it works out.
Lots of folks manage to screw without getting preggers. You argue that we should murder out of convenience. We should go ahead and take out the old folks too while we are at it. I mean, they don't produce anything, they cost a ton, they are a burden on society. All the ones who can't pay for themselves fully we need to go ahead and get rid of right? Because we have asserted ourselves as the ( which is the government mind you) chief decider of who should and should not live based on the guess of how they will turn out as an adult???? What a horrible outlook. No matter what God one believes in, I'm positive Government is NOT it.
 
Saying it's a state issue harkens back to the civil war when some (oddly enough frim the same party) said blacks didn't really count as people, and could be killed w/o repecussions.

Due process is a federal purview enshrined in the Constitution.

No jurisdiction offers the death penalty for incest, and only the UCMJ offers the death penalty for rape. That punishment hasn't been used since WWII, and likely wouldn't survive a modern constitutional challenge.

So we don't kill the people who actually commit those crimes, but we kill innocent third parties to the crime?
 
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Oh cry me a river. Some of you live in fantasy land.

Not everyone is fit to be a parent because they were never given the tools to be a productive adult themselves.

Its an endless cycle of poorly raised kids becoming shit adults who in turn pop out kids who have little chance of being productive adults.

What do you think happens when a 16 or 18 year old girl gets pregnant? There goes chance at college, there goes finding a partner who is not a broken piece of shit too. That kid will most likely be raised in a household that is not financially prepared to raise it.


Everyone of you who wants to outlaw abortion, How many orphans have you adopted? Its no different than Liberals who want welfare, but don't want to pay for it. Its easy to make a decision when other people have bear the burden. You talk about accountability but are you willing to be accountable and responsible for the morals you want others to abide by?


Which god(s) are you talking about? The Christian one? Jewish? Muslim? Hindu? Greek Gods? Norse gods? Santa?
Well, for starters, I have never killed a baby. So following your logic I am willing to be accountable and responsible for my actions. Others should be so for theirs. If you FA, you FO, literally. Don't want to be an abortionist (so much nicer than Baby Killer)? Wear protection, use birth control or self control. Making a mistake and killing a baby and thinking it is acceptable? Well. . .

A baby aborted (killed) never has the chance to be 16 or 18, or go to college or find a partner.

Ever seen a 6 month old fetus? It's complete. Everything is there, it just needs time to finish growing. Now "folks" are considering post delivery abortions? How far will this evil go?