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Second Civil War Poll

I don't want to sound like I'm advocating or hoping for it but it is a lot of steps from where we are are at before we get to what most of us would consider a civil war. I have not seen any state that truly looks ready to succeed nor any military unit that would be prepared to join with and fight to the death for a Leftist State that left America. I do have to wonder if that is why the political left keeps demanding that the military take gays, transvestites, and and other weirdos. Even if they got enough of them, it still would not help because they are never going to be a combat effective unit.

What I expect are more riots and chaos. They believe that they can make America ungovernable and force the changes they want.
 
I'm in but only if we also get to shoot any 'journalists' that decide to show up.

If we had a 2nd civil war (we wont; I explained this in another thread earlier), the 'journalists' will be the ones culpable for it.

The only escalation I see is the liberals realizing that whining and bitching about things while staying in the inner city or places like Berkely are useless. They will eventually try to take it outside into the suburbs and more rural places across the country where the reaction won't be the same and the people there are already sick of your bullshit and have no problem shooting you in the fucking face if it came down to it. Their logistical lines will be nonexistent and they will go home with a bloody nose. This will simply show us that we need a 2nd Amendment from things other than corrupt politicians; we need it against crazy fucking liberals who have now shown they want to engage in actual violence.

Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit.
 
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The German makes an excellent point. The corollary is that if we ever need to get riots tamped down real quick all we would need to do is hold the "pot stirring" Journalists and politicians accountable and the pot will come off boil fast.
 
Anyway, the left would have to decide on a flag. They would never get past that. I'm all for taking a few stars off our flag.
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Here is one that is not being used anymore. It is where all the original leftists came from with their KKK and their lynchings. Why not admit who they are and get back to their roots.
 
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Here is one that is not being used anymore. It is where all the original leftists came from with their KKK and their lynchings. Why not admit who they are and get back to their roots.

I think you stumbled into something there. That would actually be the flag for the Fairfax Underground Militia. Sort of like Texas "Come and Get It" but without the email address. Don't change a thing. It's perfect.
 
If the swamp/deep state impeaches Trump or worse there will be a war, a brutal war.
I think everyone will realize that no one wants a President Mike Pence and they will grit their teeth and let the President have his 4 years. It is a good play to keep Trump as President because he is more than willing to work with both sides. Unlike Mike Pence who is very much a hard-liner.
 
It certainly feels like it but remember what started the last one. It wasn't slaves, it wasn't states rights, it wasn't any of the other bullshit they throw around. It happened for one reason and one reason only:

Lincoln wasn't on the ballot in the slave states.

That's a constitutional crisis.

There isn't an imminent one like that right now, but the scene is set for something like that to occur.
 
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I am in China right now...

The left wants to adopt socialism ideals.

Shit, I have to be in a private VPN to post on Facebook (not that I am a fan of it) and post this message.

I think people who are proposing ultra left values should be walking next to me — let them smell the trash, poverty’s and truely unequivocal imbalances in wealth and social status..
 
I think everyone will realize that no one wants a President Mike Pence and they will grit their teeth and let the President have his 4 years. It is a good play to keep Trump as President because he is more than willing to work with both sides. Unlike Mike Pence who is very much a hard-liner.
If your predicting President Trump will lose a bid for reelection, you're mistaken.
 
The Civil War already started. Right now it's a soft insurgency. The limo burned on inaug day, the shooting of the Rep ball game, ANTIFA's various little encounters and all the threats and harassment against Republicans. The War is on...but conservatives have not decided to fight back yet. Libs want to bring the Govt. crashing down so they can come in and save the day with free stuff and gun confiscation. BTW they are losing. The closer they get to defeat the more dangerous it will become.

This ain't your great grandads civil war.
 
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The simple fact that "civil war" is part of the mainstream curriculum of discussion is the poignant fact in itself. 20 years ago, such speech would have been labeled as "sedition".

My, how things have changed. "Interesting" to say the least..... and that ISN'T a compliment.

Sedition goes back more than a couple of decades. There in the real history books are our sedition laws of the past.
 
This ain't your great grandads civil war.

Bingo and that is why I don't use that phrase to describe what may happen.

The left is relentlessly moving to a more sharply polarized position. Even the leaders are smart enough to see the rise in left side extremism and it's complete lack of civility. However, the mistake the left leadership is making is not dealing with the extremism. It won't be possible to put on the brakes soon enough and the "violent" left will make an error of disastrous proportions.

The public sees it...Trump needs to continue with pounding it into John Q Public's head. If I were him, I would do everything possible to make the left believe that their world is truly coming to an end.....Tweet

"There will be no open borders
There will be no ACA
There will be a reversal of Roe vs. Wade
There will always be a 2A
I will change the fabric of the court
Whatever it takes I will do to MAGA"

Push them until they believe that the only way will be through violence. it won't last long...and we can begin rebuilding our Republic over again.
 
It certainly feels like it but remember what started the last one. It wasn't slaves, it wasn't states rights, it wasn't any of the other bullshit they throw around. It happened for one reason and one reason only:

Lincoln wasn't on the ballot in the slave states.

That's a constitutional crisis.

There isn't an imminent one like that right now, but the scene is set for something like that to occur.
thats funny....because lincoln stated he always thought the war was over Taxes


the reason lincoln wasnt on the ballots isnt because of some seedy voter rigging.......its because voting in elections was a different process than today.

Some key differences between modern elections and the those of the mid-nineteenth century are that at the time, there was no secret ballot anywhere in the United States, that candidates were responsible for printing and distributing their own ballots (a service that was typically done by supportive newspaper publishers) and that in order to distribute valid ballots for a presidential election in a state, candidates needed citizens eligible to vote in that state who would pledge to vote for the candidate in the Electoral College. This meant that even if a voter had access to a ballot for Lincoln, casting one in favor of him in a strongly pro-slavery county would incur (at minimum) social ostracization (of course, casting a vote for Breckinridge in a strongly abolitionist county ran a voter the same risk). In ten southern slave states, no citizen would publicly pledge to vote for Abraham Lincoln. In most of Virginia, no publisher would print ballots for Lincoln's pledged electors.[18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1860
 
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I think everyone will realize that no one wants a President Mike Pence

I wouldn't mind 8 years of President Pence after another 6 years of President Trump.

Pence looks like the kind of guy that would not be afraid to put the boots directly to all the communists and SJW type in a quiet efficient manner, no tweets, no rambling speeches, just communists learning to fly as the sun comes up over a nice calm ocean.
 
For all the Antifa guys with their .223 AR-15 type rifles but haven't stocked up on ammo... perhaps they come across a bunch of cases of "found" ammo nicely boxed up in factory boxes perfectly marked... but somehow the projectiles look suspiciously like .300 Blackout.....

Then see how far they get in a firefight....
 
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For all the Antifa guys with their .223 AR-15 type rifles but haven't stocked up on ammo... perhaps they come across a bunch of cases of "found" ammo nicely boxed up in factory boxes perfectly marked... but somehow the projectiles look suspiciously like .300 Blackout.....

Then see how far they get in a firefight....

Nice idea
 
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He who cannot draw on three thousand years is living hand to mouth.
—Goethe

The four most expensive words in the English language are “This time it’s different”. The Incident at Petrich, The War of Jenkins’ Ear, and dozens of other examples indicate the ease with which people can be drawn into conflict. People do not learn. The throng of humanity will not be dissuaded by a past, much less a present, that they are not aware of.

The philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel endorsed trials by combat, as the “terrible,” but “necessary” purgative that “saves the state from social petrification and stagnation”. Many on here view a looming civil war as just that. I have zero doubt that antifa, et al have precisely the same sentiment. While I am thankful that such a conflict would be a lopsided riot, I reel at the very thought of it.

Rather than being bounded by history the masses are unbound by idiocy. No matter how often told, the story begins with a call to arms and ends with a solemn procession of postmortems. My prediction is that history will repeat itself. However large or small the eventual casualty list is anyone's guess.
 
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Rebilion against kings is the only choice and a foregone conclusion at some point. There will be an especially tyrannical king under whom it is better to die than live in total oppression. Our Republic was an attempt to (among other things) create a system that could slowly change without violence. The left wants radical change, and they demand it now. They WILL resort to violence because not only are they completely ignorant of our history and the history of their own ideology, but they are completely ignorant of ANY history (a prerequisite for being a socialist/communist).

Happy Independance Day!
 
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Note that these places produce, for the most part, nothing. Movies, lawsuits, stock markets, tourism.

Note, too, that the Japanese could not hold on to an archipelago that produced nothing... for even 3 years. Islands are easily isolated, reduced and conquered. Especially when they have large, unsupplied and under-armed defenders. For all the vaunted strength of the Japanese Army, they were conscripts fighting to glorious death. But they were badly supplied, badly trained, badly led (for the most part their officers were miserable tyrants) and their only asset was a willingness to die for the emperor.

Marines, soldiers and sailors... and in reality, not that many of them... supplied with food, fuel, manufactured goods, arms, etc. from the 'producing' parts of America (which once upon a time included this archepelago were able to turn an island foe into ashes in 3 years.

I wonder if snowflakes are so motivated...

Well, just a thought for Independence Day.

Cheers,

Sirhr