Silencer Central, if true Phuck them!

[Edsel]

From someone that lives in a country where silencers are not regulated, silencers are still expensive. Like most things, you get what you pay for. The cheap one from the machine shop is usually not as quiet, light or short as the expensive import.

And yes, any competent machinest can turn these out, but it takes a while and what is your time worth by the hour? You can speed things up by using CNC, but then you also have to pay for the machine running costs and maintenance.

Lastly, it is not just a matter of throwing baffles in a tube and hope it works. Some designs work better than others. And the better designs are usually patented. Normally not good bussines sense ripping off a patent and getting caught.

Trust me, many of them here are.

You can tell if a design was submitted for a university or external specialty firm consultation.

 

[Ape_Factory]

An EOS additive manufacturing 3D printer used to make a lot of our favorite latest/greatest suppressors runs over $100K. The engineer that's trained to operate it, design the suppressor, do materials analysis probably makes close to that a year (but hopefully more). The materials that go into it cost...whatever. Then there's taxes, infrastructure, utilities, marketing, web hosting, health insurance, people cost in other words. Point being, suppressors worth having don't cost $20 to make. Like ever.

I know for a fact that a popular 3D printed suppressor costs a dealer about $890. It sells for a good bit over $1K list before the tax stamp. Best guess given manufacturer to dealer markups, puts the manufacturing cost of the suppressor at north of $400.

And honestly, if they take the tax stamp away, it's supply and demand. Prices will go up as there will be more demand at least in the short term under normal economic conditions. State governments will likely win with increased sales tax revenue.

 

[chevy_man]

Completely incorrect on so many levels, but you do you.

If those baffles are not lined up correctly, and especially if the end is out of parallel with the shoulder of the barrel your 1/2" rifle becomes not anywhere near that with the can on it, and your poi shift will be massive, possibly in the feet or more.

Low back pressure cans are definitely a thing for sure, and that ain't marketing.

Then you are also talking about materials that can get repeatedly heated up past 1,500+ degrees and still remain structurally sound under massive amounts of pressure while under extreme heat.

There is all types of technology and innovation in the suppressor space but of course you're more than welcome to ignore all of it.

The machine work still isn't special.

Tons of places work with the material, there's no secrets.

Any decent machinist should be able to put one together easily.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

It costs a ton of money to lease the land, hire staff, build the building, outfit the building and train the staff and yet McDonald's still sells $8 Happy Meals. The neighboring county has a population of 60K people and there are 6 of them along with multiple other fast food establishments.

 

[Mr.BR]

have no dog in this fight but have always believed that the companies that make suppressors are complicit in the NFA BS. in my limited knowledge,i see no reason that these are priced so high ie despite the gov rip off. there is no real open competition in the biz. if it was opened up like guns,ammo,scopes,mags competition would seem to be increased as a guy could have tried several,decided and posted what works best for him. when you have 4-500$s in something,dumping it when it is a POS is tough as is admitting it. look at scope numbers,prices and resulting wide open everywhere competition.

Exactly , without tax stamp costs , 300$ centerfire and 100$ rimfire suppresors would become quite common not to mention vendors offering them , massively cutting into SC market and overhead.

We have unregulated suppressors and so everyone can and does sell them there is no chance for such business model

 

[RUN8]

On top of that, you're trying to tell me that they spent over $50k to target a very specific subset of 'government money'.…and they did it independently of any and all of the thousands of other environmental interest groups? All of that to convince Uncle Sam to reallocate just our tax stamp money to some other issue?

How stupid do they think we are?

They think we’re pretty stupid.

I mean they convince tons of buyers every day that the Bannish suppressors are the bestest ever suppressor ever made by man. So they know people are pretty dumb.

 

[Green461]

If they get dropped off the NFA Amazon should have them for sale for $15. The whole time and material and engineering is BS.... they've been designed, functioning, and available for decades, they are not reinventing the wheel. And time and material...... You can buy a really nice TIG welded race muffler for a couple hundred bucks with 5 times the material and time invested made in USA, or the same thing from china for $40. The price of suppressors is a joke and only high because they got something special (NFA item) and its a niche market. Its a non-precision item with no moving parts. Remove from the NFA and its no longer special or niche. Price should fall out the bottom, that is why manufacturers side with the NFA. They probably make +500% profit right now, I'd imagine having to ramp up production 100% and cut costs to only 20% profit wouldnt really be appealing to anyone.
If they dont need a serial number and anyone can make them they will have to or fold.