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So... 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.... ???

Guys, c’mon. We’re on the same team here right? Let’s tone it down and be cordial.

I hate to see this division in our community over small differences in opinion. We need to gird our loins as a community and not get bogged down by the particulars. We all want to see our freedoms preserved and many returned.
 
1st, i’ll say i dont want to incite any violence. only thing i want to incite is folks to follow the constitution; and those who have betrayed it to pay.

saying something like “fuck brcc” is one thing, ripping on a guy because he hasnt attacked anyone is completely another. how about we keep that in mind.....

also keep in mind, that you WILL answer for everything you do someday. and if you do something, you better know the significance of your action before you do it. i’m a peace loving man, but if i am attacked, i’ll fight to the death. i dont see me lashing out first.

i encourage everyone to think long and hard about that, and how it applies to you and those you love.
 
And how many commies have you smoked this morning cuck?
As many as you. Cuck.

Let me know when you're gonna do something. I'll help out.

Waiting...
I'm not the one talking cheap shit. Do something or shut the fuck up you yappy lil' bitch. You're like chihuahua, always barking, always threatening, never doing anything.
But you wait for others to go first and lead you, you chickenshit cunt. If you weren't a coward little bitch you'd be a self starter and leader.
This exchange is exactly why people who identify as them and they are winning.
 
This is exactly what the commies want. God job guys!

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If you resist, the media with demonize you and use you as an example of precisely why guns must be taken away from the people. Perfect storm.

I'm scared, because a gun saved my life, to lose this right or no longer be able to afford it. I really am.
 
Imagine if you will - the cash cow of 400 million firearms in our country - all taxed at $200 apiece.
That’s some real incentive for them to infringe all they can.
And all we would need to do is not one firearm owner complies with that, period. They will do the same thing they did in the States when they knew they weren't getting compliance. They will extend and extend and extend the deadline to comply, eventually they will give up. They might have the ball's to make an example of some of us here and there but if we stand firm against them with mass non compliance, that's all we have to do.

However, we have to do this United and not beating the shit out of each other on the Internet trying to one up who is the biggest keyboard badass. This is easy to do all we do is agree as fellow gun owners, as fellow Americans who don't want to see our country turn into a Communist 3rd world shithole we all agree to refuse compliance with unlawful taxes or turn ins, and to help and assist each other wherever we can in this.

Once again we don't have to shoot anyone, we can simply win by doing nothing. I mean that's easy enough.
 
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And all we would need to do is not one firearm owner complies with that, period. They will do the same thing they did in the States when they knew they weren't getting compliance. They will extend and extend and extend the deadline to comply, eventually they will give up. They might have the ball's to make an example of some of us here and there but if we stand firm against them with mass non compliance, that's all we have to do.

However, we have to do this United and not beating the shit out of each other on the Internet trying to one up who is the biggest keyboard badass. This is easy to do all we do is agree as fellow gun owners, as fellow Americans who don't want to see our country turn into a Communist 3rd world shithole we all agree to refuse compliance with unlawful taxes or turn ins, and to help and assist each other wherever we can in this.

Once again we don't have to shoot anyone, we can simply win by doing nothing. I mean that's easy enough.
Whether or not anyone is injured in this deal will depend entirely on how they try to go about enforcing this unconstitutional law if in fact it ever came to be.....

I don’t honestly believe this leftist agenda wet dream has a chance in hell of getting past SCOTUS.
 
as the OP, I would like to make this thread vanish, this is abhorrent.... anyone able to tell me if I can pull it down?
 
Like I said and was quoted. "talk is cheap" and here you are talking. Let me know when your'e going to do something. That's what I thought. You can't because you have something to lose. I know, I know, not yet. Right? They haven't pushed you enough or haven't broken any "laws" to allow you to do something.

Talk is cheap and all I see is bitches yapping their jaws.
As many as you. Cuck.

Let me know when you're gonna do something. I'll help out.

Waiting...

So you’re, what, claiming the high ground by calling people out for doing what you’re doing? Talking and....waiting?

Wtf, over.

Newsflash, grumpy, there’s lot’s of work to do before this ‘doing something’ that you’re waiting for were to ever happen. You are not helping, you are dividing, and that needs to stop. Take a deep breath, find something productive to do. Come up with an idea that is constructive, and work with that.

Not everything is going to get posted on the Hide, much less the interwebs.

Meatspace, baby!
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as the OP, I would like to make this thread vanish, this is abhorrent.... anyone able to tell me if I can pull it down?
You can delete it. I'm curious what part of this thread is abhorrent and has touched you in the wrong place?
 
true believers should be working together, not calling each other out...
Maybe this thread is needed for folks to consider other stuff and get on the same page.

Not many groups I've been in from family, friends, to even soldiers all are on the same page without some discussion.

Humans. Kooky creatures.
 
Guys, c’mon. We’re on the same team here right? Let’s tone it down and be cordial.

I hate to see this division in our community over small differences in opinion. We need to gird our loins as a community and not get bogged down by the particulars. We all want to see our freedoms preserved and many returned.


This right here... This year has been dildos. There is major foul play in the political system. We are not just facing a tide of anti-gun bullshit but treasonous usurpers intending to completely dismantle the foundations of this country that generations of Patriots have fought and died to preserve.

What we need is levelheaded and rational thinking and not give in to pure heat. Emotional responses do not get results. Communication, record-keeping, and keeping a sharp eye on shit that is going on in the political and gun related topic fronts is how we stay in the game and possibly get ahead of the game.

We stand together, or we fall separately.

Like Creed Fisher says, it ain't Union vs. Confederate anymore. It is RED WHITE AND BLUE versus communist shitstains.
 
Imagine if you will - the cash cow of 400 million firearms in our country - all taxed at $200 apiece.
That’s some real incentive for them to infringe all they can.

That's $80 billion - seems like a lot of money! But the federal deficit was something like $3.1 trillion in fiscal year 2020. So that would pay for only 2.5% of the past year's deficit. So maybe it's not so much money. (Plus, they won't try to add every firearm to the NFA registry, and even if they did, they probably wouldn't get more than perhaps 25% compliance.)
 
Maybe this thread is needed for folks to consider other stuff and get on the same page.

Not many groups I've been in from family, friends, to even soldiers all are on the same page without some discussion.

Humans. Kooky creatures.


I know how it is, man... Staying logged online and getting constantly bombarded by a deluge of negative shit coming from the MSM and elsewhere can really take a toll on the nerves. I've been through that. I think we all have been. The Internet can bend and warp the perception of reality for most people very quickly. I remember when I drove trucks overnight and long distance. Even with the windows down and plenty of fresh air ensured, along with reasonable amount of rest before the trip, the prolonged stretches of highway at night still fucked with my head a little bit. Made me see shit that wasn't there on the road. It did not really bother me but I can see how it can fuck with somebody who is not expecting this and that is why there is a high number of single vehicle accidents involving trucks on any given night anywhere. Something might flash before you, you think it is a piece of debris in the road but it really was just your mind trying to adjust to the monotony of the highway... But you swerve or slam the brakes too hard, forgetting for a second that you are hauling liquid cargo in a tanker and BOOM, shit gets really interesting from then on.

I STRONGLY recommend logging off for just a little bit when you are starting to feel frazzled. Take a walk, clean a gun, prepare some food with a family member, something, to reset and refresh your senses. Doing a long haul on the Internet is no different than doing a long haul in a truck on a dark stretch of interstate for hours. A bit of a break here and there is needed so we can refocus on why we are here and what we are doing here in the first place.
 
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That's $80 billion - seems like a lot of money! But the federal deficit was something like $3.1 trillion in fiscal year 2020. So that would pay for only 2.5% of the past year's deficit. So maybe it's not so much money. (Plus, they won't try to add every firearm to the NFA registry, and even if they did, they probably wouldn't get more than perhaps 25% compliance.)

The firearms are just one part of the equation.. Remember, each magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds will also have to be registered and stamped to remain legal.. Thats $80 billion in firearms and probably 100 times that in magazines, and thats probably still a low estimation.
 
The firearms are just one part of the equation.. Remember, each magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds will also have to be registered and stamped to remain legal.. Thats $80 billion in firearms and probably 100 times that in magazines, and thats probably still a low estimation.

As I understand it, they want a $200 stamp for EACH mag you own that holds more than 10 rounds. I know folks who would go bankrupt paying $200 for every mag.
 
Who's really going to pay it? Fuck em. They tried it in Jersey and got like zero compliance.

I'm sure some purple haired bitch ran their shit to the local state police barracks somewhere but as a whole... it flopped.

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I don't believe they will need law enforcement to accomplish their goal. They will use economic tools to make you submit. They will use their laws to make it impossible for you to hold out very long. Go outside your house (to go to work or the grocery store) and they arrest you at that point.

Imagine, all of us being Red Flagged by friends and neighbors. All of us have friends, family or neighbors that know you have firearms. Remember the police can Red Flag you if they get information from someone who has direct knowledge.

The government know that they can't stack up at your doorstep, because they won't have to.

this right here ☝

just like turning in Neighbors for thanksgiving
 
Serious Question...Who would enforce something like this? I know plenty of folks in LE and in the Military and have had this discussion with them. They have all basically said there is no way on god's green earth they would arrest, fine, or otherwise lift a single finger to "punish" any former law abiding gun owner.
It would be a federal offense and not for the locals. Certainly the military do not have a right to arrest.
 
Imagine if you will - the cash cow of 400 million firearms in our country - all taxed at $200 apiece.
That’s some real incentive for them to infringe all they can.
Well yeah how else will they be able to pay reparations to the slaves kin
 
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I find it illegal as this has always been, but as in 1986 NFA machine gun registration, 1994 Assault weapons ban...and coming to you in the near future 2021 assault weapons NFA list. To eliminate the “financial burden” they will give you a 90 day period to register and not pay the $200 tax. Same they did in ‘86 to register all those machine guns that we own or drool about. It’s the same easy af process as owning a suppressor, wait is long. None of the past marched, rioted or stormed the White House. While you’ll have a few that refuse to register their firearms, they basically just turned them into the equivalent of junk, cocaine and contraband. Can’t use at your gun range, can’t go hunting, it’ll be the same as that illegal machine gun you have or the homemade silencer you have in your sock drawer...worthless. Sure its unconstitutional but so has the whole NFA system yet we still buy, sell & deal with it everyday, why. cause we’re law abiding citizens. In the end the listed rifles will be transferable, of value and still in my possession. The non-listed, well it’s the same as a firearm with the serial scratched off.

but in the end, we’ll have to wait & see if Biden actually does anything in office or he continues his politician life and does nothing.
 
I find it illegal as this has always been, but as in 1986 NFA machine gun registration, 1994 Assault weapons ban...and coming to you in the near future 2021 assault weapons NFA list. To eliminate the “financial burden” they will give you a 90 day period to register and not pay the $200 tax. Same they did in ‘86 to register all those machine guns that we own or drool about. It’s the same easy af process as owning a suppressor, wait is long. None of the past marched, rioted or stormed the White House. While you’ll have a few that refuse to register their firearms, they basically just turned them into the equivalent of junk, cocaine and contraband. Can’t use at your gun range, can’t go hunting, it’ll be the same as that illegal machine gun you have or the homemade silencer you have in your sock drawer...worthless. Sure its unconstitutional but so has the whole NFA system yet we still buy, sell & deal with it everyday, why. cause we’re law abiding citizens. In the end the listed rifles will be transferable, of value and still in my possession. The non-listed, well it’s the same as a firearm with the serial scratched off.

but in the end, we’ll have to wait & see if Biden actually does anything in office or he continues his politician life and does nothing.

Yep. As I figured, it’s gone.
 
this right here ☝

just like turning in Neighbors for thanksgiving
I have a real concern about my neighbors. One in particular (ultra libtard); but, I was shocked at Thanksgiving when one neighbor (new) said she couldn't find ammo and that it's expensive (duhhh) and the other (a good guy) said...I'm sure................... Kinda pissed me off. So, that's always the dilemma - even if you are making buddies in your AO, there will be a rat fink amongst them.
 
Maybe, but I'd be more concerned about your wife. Those are always the ones to be worried about.

My wife is the most dangerous person I know.
Women are always more dangerous not because of what they can inflict, because of what they can inspire.

Why can a human baby cry at the top of its lungs and nothing comes to eat it? The answer is women, at one point or another some animal ate a baby and the women of the village told/inspired the men to kill every one of that animal they found. So, men are dangerous, but not women can inspire
 
Personally? I think most of the Anti Gun Rhetoric on the part of Democrat Politicians is a Way of getting votes...they want to appeal to the Million Mom's who really think that taking all the guns is gonna save a Life instead of addressing root causes of gun violence. Even if you can take the guns it won;t save anything it'll just open another can of worms that makes more violence.

But they want that vote so they stroke up the voter base with bullshit to get into office.

VooDoo
 
and if you think they wont move on it the second they can, you’re probably very young and definately are very wrong.

there is a meme out there....says something to the effect that if the government will shit on it’s citizens this bad when they are armed to the teeth....think how bad they’ll do it if you are unarmed.
 
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Everyone knows that outside of a revolution -- and even then it's a low probability chance of success -- we will not organize and win through violence. As encouraged in earlier posts, contact your congressman. If you have the financial means, fight the battle through the courts. The peaceful means are the only ones that lead to a future we actually want within ours or our children's lifetimes.
 
Everyone knows that outside of a revolution -- and even then it's a low probability chance of success -- we will not organize and win through violence. As encouraged in earlier posts, contact your congressman. If you have the financial means, fight the battle through the courts. The peaceful means are the only ones that lead to a future we actually want within ours or our children's lifetimes.
How much does George Soros pay all you liberal trolls that have shown up here in the last 8 months trying to convince us that freedom will never be worth the fight . Well then maybe it isn't for you gutless cowards. If you would rather be red than dead then you deserve it.
What you don't understand is socialism/ communism always leads to red AND dead !
 
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Everyone knows that outside of a revolution -- and even then it's a low probability chance of success -- we will not organize and win through violence. As encouraged in earlier posts, contact your congressman. If you have the financial means, fight the battle through the courts. The peaceful means are the only ones that lead to a future we actually want within ours or our children's lifetimes.
I appreciate your optimism. It makes me feel like we might even have a choice.
 
How much does George Soros pay all you liberal trolls that have shown up here in the last 8 months trying to convince us that freedom will never be worth the fight . Well maybe it isn't for you you gutless cowards. If you would rather be red than dead then you deserve it.
What you don't understand is socialism/ communism always leads to red AND dead !
Let's see, liberal.... troll... gutless... Coward...

In reality:
Registered republican. Active Duty primary branch still infantryman. Fought in 2 wars. Here posting shit about guns.

Give it a rest. Use your brain. Use the tools the forefathers already fought and died for. Or, go be Rambo and fight your pointless individual rebellion when there were better ways, or more likely get on a forum an crow about it while actually doing nothing. Good luck, hero.
 
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They buy and pay the politicians, judges, and bureaucrats. If you haven’t realized your vote no longer counts. Realistically It has not in quite sometime with the one exception they let the orange man slip through the firewall thinking he wouldn’t be taken seriously.
I don't know how it's going to play out in the courts. It's not looking great, but the real fight is just getting started. Only SCOTUS can close the door on the election results. I still trust the process, even though I agree that the inclusion of corporate finance has led to corruption in politics. I do still believe in the judicial branch. I'm happy that we have a strong conservative SCOTUS.

I am optimistic though that we will sort through the use and improper uses of technology in our election process. I also expect this will lead to appropriate transparency and reform in fraudulent voting districts for future elections. Mail-in voting is too ripe with opportunity for fraud. Electronic counting is too ripe for fraud. Only independent human counting validated by separate independent counters with no knowledge of the first count until the same result is achieved is acceptable.
 
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If they'll come after you for not wearing a mask or for trying to keep your business open, they'll come after you for not turning in your guns. I really hate to see this shit, as I have a good friend who's a local cop, and two family members who are LEO.







etc.

etc.

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Problem is "they" (the ones we want to "get away from" ) live right next door or are in our own families now....it's not like all the Red ones can go "over there" and the Blue Ones all go somewhere else. We are all mixed like grains of sand.

It's US divided amongst ourselves and we are going to get F'd this Way.....we must find a Way to unite and cooperate or "They" get their Way by simple division. Split US all up against each other and laugh while we fuck ourselves all the while fleecing US of our Rights, our Liberty, and our Wealth.

Which is what all this strife is about....we are being cut apart from each other and America's huge wealth and resources are being assimilated by a Global Oligarchy that owns and operates our Representation. We are being divided and liquidated.

VooDoo
 
If they'll come after you for not wearing a mask or for trying to keep your business open, they'll come after you for not turning in your guns. I really hate to see this shit, as I have a good friend who's a local cop, and two family members who are LEO.







etc.

etc.

etc.


I’ve seen a couple of these and it’s downright eye opening.
 
That last video really pisses me off. The first two, not as much. Private businesses mean you follow their rules, leave or trespass and get arrested...

Regarding the last one, I love police when they're doing their jobs. I hate police when they're abusing their authority.

This is private property. Do you suspect a crime has been committed? Conduct your investigation, make any arrests, and leave IMMEDIATELY. That shit makes me so mad. I don't care if you are a health inspector trying to enforce code, either. Go ahead and shut the business down if you can, but when I say get off of my property, you don't have a choice other than to leave or break the law that you're supposed to enforce. If you weren't a LEO, I'd escalate to violence if necessary and call the police. But you are a LEO, so what can I do that doesn't result in a worse outcome for all of the good guys?