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I think we all realize that there are going to be individuals that shouldn't be on the job that slip through the cracks ...

The more alarming issue is when it seems like this type of behavior is celebrated by the other officers or as a department or at the very least not punished

It's a little scary that we've gotten to the point where it's a controversial issue to say it's wrong to laugh about abusing an old woman with psychological issues as long as it's a certain organization doing the abuse

I honestly sometimes think people really do think and know this is wrong but want to get their virtue signaling points or are legitimately scared of the repercussions of any negative comments with their careers if they call it out for what it is
 
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    I think we all realize that there are going to be individuals that shouldn't be on the job that slip through the cracks ...

    The more alarming issue is when it seems like this type of behavior is celebrated by the other officers or as a department or at the very least not punished

    It's a little scary that we've gotten to the point where it's a controversial issue to say it's wrong to laugh about abusing an old woman with psychological issues as long as it's a certain organization doing the abuse

    I honestly sometimes think people really do think and know this is wrong but want to get their virtue signaling points or are legitimately scared of the repercussions of any negative comments with their careers
    this lady was injured. i have seen people defend the shooting of daniel shaver. i agree, this can turn police supporters into skeptics or worse.

    why? because just like the police see the worst from perps, they also see the worst from other officers.
    if they are unwilling to condemn, and even go out of their way to defend questionable conduct...this is untenable.
    i am not using this lady as an example, but kelly thomas for example.
     

    mcameron

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    so why isn't every antifa dickwad walking around in a sling? too tough?
    Ask the Police chiefs...

    If I had my way they'd all be face down in a ditch with a bullet in their head.

    But then I'm sure the bleeding hearts on here would be bitching about that too
     

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    Ask the Police chiefs...

    If I had my way they'd all be face down in a ditch with a bullet in their head.

    But then I'm sure the bleeding hearts on here would be bitching about that too
    I don’t want that. We are the enemies right now. Not them. That power needs to lie with the people. Not the state. The police are the state.

    I would rather the police make an announcement that they will not protect rioters any longer and let the public handle their own neighborhoods. People don’t take care of business out fear of their own prosecution.
     

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    I don’t want that. We are the enemies right now. Not them. That power needs to lie with the people. Not the state. The police are the state.

    I would rather the police make an announcement that they will not protect rioters any longer and let the public handle their own neighborhoods. People don’t take care of business out fear of their own prosecution.
    one old couple tried with their guns and got arrested.
    the unarmed ones that tried got killed or the shit kicked out of them.
     

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    one old couple tried with their guns and got arrested.
    the unarmed ones that tried got killed or the shit kicked out of them.
    Perfect examples. This is a tool decades in the making to grow the police state that has started to really show in 2020. Make it criminal to defend life and property or at the very least financially devastating while at the same time growing police forces into small armies to “handle the bad guys” all the while convincing people it’s what is needed to solve the crime epidemic the government itself created. These same crime fighters in 2020 were used to devastate the economy by postering against men trying to make a living while they never missed one paycheck themselves.
     
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    Just realizing this now?....slow on the uptake eh?

    And she was detained easily...hard to struggle with a dislocated arm....looked pretty effective.


    Again....stop committing crimes and resisting arrest if you don't want to get roughed up...
    Although I don't agree with the amount of force used , just for arguments sake let's say your right as far as the arrest goes .

    Are you going to defend the mocking , laughing, and celebrating after she was booked ??
    WOW , an officer has to celebrate over how he was able to take down a 73 yr old woman holding some flowers in her hand and needed back up to help him accomplish it.

    Are you seriously going to defend that ?

    This video is a perfect example of what shitbags will be left sitting in a patrol car once the left has run off all the good officers !

    Let the games begin !
     
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    Ask the Police chiefs...

    If I had my way they'd all be face down in a ditch with a bullet in their head.

    But then I'm sure the bleeding hearts on here would be bitching about that too
    you probably know that the only people that can deal with the bad police are other police.
    what are you waiting for?

    /by you i mean collectively, the "good" police.
     

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    Here's one of our own "finest" in action.

    6'-5" / 230lb. Travis Co. deputy tases a 72 yr. old grandmother for 'not cooperating' and following his commands.

    But the officer did go home safe that.

    BTW, thats the same stretch of highway I was stopped and when I told the loser I had a handgun in the cab he asked if it was loaded. When I told him yes he said it needed to be unloaded and the 'clip' kept in a separate area of the vehicle.

     
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    I got no problem with any LEO that doesn't violate the constitution.....Fuck this I was just enforcing the law bullshit.....Just because something was written into a law (usually by a self serving crooked ass politician) Doesn't make it right!
     
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    Although I don't agree with the amount of force used , just for arguments sake let's say your right as far as the arrest goes .

    Are you going to defend the mocking , laughing, and celebrating after she was booked ??
    WOW , an officer has to celebrate over how he was able to take down a 73 yr old woman holding some flowers in her hand and needed back up to help him accomplish it.

    Are you seriously going to defend that ?

    This video is a perfect example of what shitbags will be left sitting in a patrol car once the left has run off all the good officers !

    Let the games begin !
    Is this coming from the same generation that preaches "sticks and stones yada yada"?

    And the same generation that laughs at millennials for freaking out over using the wrong pronouns?

    We're now going to get all bent out of shape over mocking?

    Should they have?...no
    And I going to cry about it?...also no
     

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    oh, wayt, maybe we are overlooking something.

    maybe those officers already got the "training" and were just punishing another evil white racist. sort of a penance for being white themselves.

    if you deny it, you're racist. :p
     

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    oh, wayt, maybe we are overlooking something.

    maybe those officers already got the "training" and were just punishing another evil white racist. sort of a penance for being white themselves.

    if you deny it, you're racist. :p
    Damn LBC, you're wound up tonight. Monday night drinking? :D
     

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    Is this coming from the same generation that preaches "sticks and stones yada yada"?

    And the same generation that laughs at millennials for freaking out over using the wrong pronouns?

    We're now going to get all bent out of shape over mocking?

    Should they have?...no
    And I going to cry about it?...also no
    Your right , nothing to see here.

    So if you find yourself in that situation then you have no problem with receiving the same treatment ,correct ?

    But that would never happen to you , right ?

    Do you consider yourself a patriot ?
    Are you a White Christian male ?

    If the answer is no then you don't have to worry.
    If the answer to either one is yes , then its only a matter of time before they come to arrest you !
    Should they ....... no , but if they do I won't cry about it !
     

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    Ask the Police chiefs...

    If I had my way they'd all be face down in a ditch with a bullet in their head.

    But then I'm sure the bleeding hearts on here would be bitching about that too
    You would never be able to test out for a job in law enforcement.

    Here's one of our own "finest" in action.

    6'-5" / 230lb. Travis Co. deputy tases a 72 yr. old grandmother for 'not cooperating' and following his commands.

    But the officer did go home safe that.

    BTW, thats the same stretch of highway I was stopped and when I told the loser I had a handgun in the cab he asked if it was loaded. When I told him yes he said it needed to be unloaded and the 'clip' kept in a separate area of the vehicle.

    That dude got bested by an old woman with grit.
     

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    You would never be able to test out for a job in law enforcement.
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    Hi,

    So last week it was pretty much "Well if he hadn't resisted she would not have shot him"; so doesn't matter if she mistakenly grabbed the wrong gun because it was suspects fault for not complying.

    This week has it changed to "Some people must comply, some do not have to"??

    Sincerely,
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    so the police need to have a full medical history before dealing with someone? how many crack heads have some form of mental illness? should we handle them with kid gloves too?

    frankly she was fighting and got a dislocated arm....i didnt see anything unusually brutal about how the officer restrained her......that seemed to be mostly her doing.

    every old person who tries to steal shit claims to have dementia ......and if shes that bad, she needs to be an a facility, not roaming highway overpasses.



    im sick of every time someone breaks the law and gets hurt, its the officers fault......no....its your own damn fault.

    Not since PrincessPickleBunny has anyone graced these forums with such a fervent desire to suck cop cock. I bet you slurp away at blue popsicles just thinking about it all. You're the epitome of the braying unthinking dullard heralding the marching thugs not realizing you're celebrating your own loss of liberty and the accountability of the authorities. Stupid, even fucking stupid, bestows upon you the unearned compliment of at least being sentient. Used diapers have greater perception, wit and character than you.

    The Pit has the gravitational pull of a super mega black hole when it comes to attracting the opinions of utter cunts, but with you, I think, we need a new version of the General Theory as you're quite special.
     

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    You know we have to shut this down between 6AM and 7AM to sweep up the teeth and eyeballs and sanitize Hanoi Jane's face.
     

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    Yeah, these aren't our "finest" by a long fucking shot.

    It's not defensible. It's despicable and if you don't have a problem with that kind of behaviour, then just what was it about the nazis you had a problem with? I mean, really?

    Really would like to call this shitstain's mother and see what she thinks about her pride and joy.
     

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    So back in the day 25 years ago the police solved problems by taking people to jail. If you were a crook, fucked up, or crazy you went to jail. Now the public expects more of officers and wants us to solve problems through diversion and crisis intervention. The problem is you don’t know if you are dealing with a crook, a crazy person, or a meth head. It takes a little common sense and savvy to be a cop these days. I’m not saying it’s right it is just the way it is.

    What happened to that lady wasn’t right. If those cops couldn’t tell that something wasn’t right with her they have no business being cops. There was plenty of time to talk to this lady and there was no way she could have been a legitimate threat to the officers. They could have just talked to the lady to get her to comply. Or if they were worried about her safety they could have stuffed her into the car without putting her into handcuffs.

    Just so you dickheads know I would always treat you with respect before I kicked your old asses and took you to jail for stealing from Walmart.
     
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    No one asked you to "Solve Problems". We just want you to do a job and actually be professional about it. It ain't hard.
    So back in the day 25 years ago the police solved problems by taking people to jail. If you were a crook, fucked up, or crazy you went to jail. Now the public expects more of officers and wants us to solve problems through diversion and crisis intervention. The problem is you don’t know if you are dealing with a crook, a crazy person, or a meth head. It takes a little common sense and savvy to be a cop these days. I’m not saying it’s right it is just the way it is.

    What happened to that lady wasn’t right. If those cops couldn’t tell that something wasn’t right with her they have no business being cops. There was plenty of time to talk to this lady and there was no way she could have been a legitimate threat to the officers. They could have just talked to the lady to get her to comply. Or if they were worried about her safety they could have stuffed her into the car without putting her into handcuffs.

    Just so you dickheads know I would always treat you with respect before I kicked your old asses and took you to jail for stealing from Walmart.
     

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    my issue is them denying her medical treatment when they knew she was injured.

    arresting her, i have no issue with. my grandmother was a mean bitch who could outdrink anyone here....and she was about 90 pounds soaking wet. i havent a clue how she made it through life....grandpa (her ex husband) used to say, the only reason she lived so long was that God didnt want her, and the devil didnt dare. if she were arrested, i’da laughed. but chicken winged and then chained in a cell without medical treatment? NOW i have a problem.

    gotta hand it to the black community....they dont allow this shit. even if the person on the receiving end was out of line 100, they dont give a shit and have every PD in the nation scared to do their jobs. the ones that arent, they get made examples of.

    white people? meh, fuck ‘em. an eldery person with dementia.... injured her, then knowingly locked her in a cell denying medical attention; when they should have (at the very least) transported her to the hospital for medical attention.
     

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    I admit, i didnt watch the video... and i got curious and looked it up and this is pretty shitty. I didnt realise how shitty until i read more about it. My local cops arent like this, and i defend the good ones, outright cop hating is ignorant. But these two sound pretty shitty. And the loveland police in general seem like they need some work on how they treat people. The whole transfering her and not mentioning she was injured or crazy... that is just despicable. I retract my previous anything and am going to go stand in the corner for awhile.
    You just unequivocally proved how fucking stupid you truly are.

    You argued the merits for how many posts.......and didn't even bother learning anything about it first or even during the argument?

    Stupid motherfuckers like you are exactly WHY this country is fucked up today.

    You vote and breed and somewhere somehow, someone actually thinks you are smart and listens to your opinion.

    Jesus we need an asteroid.....
     

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    Govt, MSM, LE, Pro Sports, Big tech are all making their own bed......nothing immoral or unethical last!
     

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    I don’t want that. We are the enemies right now. Not them. That power needs to lie with the people. Not the state. The police are the state.

    I would rather the police make an announcement that they will not protect rioters any longer and let the public handle their own neighborhoods. People don’t take care of business out fear of their own prosecution.
    Yes.
    I am not scared of a robber or home invasion for example. I am scared of the...after. This current system does NOT like us defending ourselves.

    The cops get in the way today because of Dept politics. The cops , agent and sheriffs am friends with are pissed. Have been for years too. They can't do their job anymore.

    Add in these fucking jbt types being filmed and now the system comes down on all of the cops, thereby reducing the amount of work they can really do.

    The agent I've known for years is leaving very soon. One of two sheriffs I know personally has already gotten out. Hell, he sells insurance now.

    They've seen the decline for years and they're pissed but tied at the hands by the leftist shitbag types who control policies, budgets and prosecution's.

    The leftists are pretty masterful really, they've managed to infiltrate all of the traditional institutions in America and work to weaken and destroy them.

    What I call traditional LE is one of the remaining institutions the left is scared of so .....now the heat is being turned up on them.
     

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    So back in the day 25 years ago the police solved problems by taking people to jail. If you were a crook, fucked up, or crazy you went to jail. Now the public expects more of officers and wants us to solve problems through diversion and crisis intervention. The problem is you don’t know if you are dealing with a crook, a crazy person, or a meth head. It takes a little common sense and savvy to be a cop these days. I’m not saying it’s right it is just the way it is.

    What happened to that lady wasn’t right. If those cops couldn’t tell that something wasn’t right with her they have no business being cops. There was plenty of time to talk to this lady and there was no way she could have been a legitimate threat to the officers. They could have just talked to the lady to get her to comply. Or if they were worried about her safety they could have stuffed her into the car without putting her into handcuffs.

    Just so you dickheads know I would always treat you with respect before I kicked your old asses and took you to jail for stealing from Walmart.
    I was allllllmost with you there. It was good stuff until that last paragraph.

    So ...eat a dick motherfucker instead.

    You ARE the problem.
     

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    You just unequivocally proved how fucking stupid you truly are.

    You argued the merits for how many posts.......and didn't even bother learning anything about it first or even during the argument?

    Stupid motherfuckers like you are exactly WHY this country is fucked up today.

    You vote and breed and somewhere somehow, someone actually thinks you are smart and listens to your opinion.

    Jesus we need an asteroid.....
    When does a foul mouthed asshole get to be the judge of everyone else? Silentwoods, you are a bitter dick. Probably cause you are what you eat. Im human, i err, but im honest. And honestly i think your the biggest peice of shit on this site.
     

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    When does a foul mouthed asshole get to be the judge of everyone else? Silentwoods, you are a bitter dick. Probably cause you are what you eat. Im human, i err, but im honest. And honestly i think your the biggest peice of shit on this site.
    Well, I am honestly happy you said that.

    I'd have to rethink a lot of things if you liked me.

    I hurt your feelings because you proved what I said for the world to see.

    It's not my fault dude, don't misplace your anger and frustration by being mad at me.

    Your lack of comprehension skills, understanding and a general negative iq score is not my fault.

    It's your fault, period.

    But hey, it's a free country right?

    For now.

    I'm out, so flame away salad slicer 👍
     

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    Well, I am honestly happy you said that.

    I'd have to rethink a lot of things if you liked me.

    I hurt your feelings because you proved what I said for the world to see.

    It's not my fault dude, don't misplace your anger and frustration by being mad at me.

    Your lack of comprehension skills, understanding and a general negative iq score is not my fault.

    It's your fault, period.

    But hey, it's a free country right?

    For now.

    I'm out, so flame away salad slicer 👍
    Im not mad at you lol. People who act like you are never superior at anything. Believe what ya want.
     

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    You just unequivocally proved how fucking stupid you truly are.

    You argued the merits for how many posts.......and didn't even bother learning anything about it first or even during the argument?

    Stupid motherfuckers like you are exactly WHY this country is fucked up today.

    You vote and breed and somewhere somehow, someone actually thinks you are smart and listens to your opinion.

    Jesus we need an asteroid.....
    Actually people who are easily manipulated have fucked up this country, way more than people who show restraint in condemning actions until they have the full story. Since this is a year old, was he already fired? How much of the story you read about that incident is true? If not, why? Did this lady cause problems, get combative, and get arrested all the time? Was she actually a tweaker, and didn't have dementia? Little lady with dementia does not have a care taker? Did she have something like Ehlers-Dalos syndrome, I work with a lady who can dislocate her shoulder walking down the street.

    These questions and more should be going through your head when known sources of disinformation tell you whom to be mad at. If you haven't learned these people take the piece of a video they want and make up the rest of the story, you're not paying attention. All the details you "know" about the situation are what you have been spoon fed by known sources of disinformation. :unsure:

    If you are super worried about cops, watch your local cops, get involved with city council, run for mayor, and stop worrying about other peoples local cops. This is as fucking stupid as people who want to get online and argue with people in other states about teacher wages and school funding. If you drive 20 minutes from rural eastern colorado, to rural western Kansas, as a teacher the starting wage is 10k per year higher.

    @wade2big - IF you have the right people in local and state governments it can effectively neuter the Fed. I.E if the state supports it the Fed leaves it alone. Recreational amrijunana in CO would be my example.
     
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    Nobody posts the videos of cops saving people anymore. The minor amount of these incedents gets magnified and every good thing gets swept under the table. Bunch of police hate going on, which is whats wanted for defunding them. Im just not gonna play into that. I know my local police and i know if i ever got stopped they would treat me like a person instead of just some criminal. I watched her get arrested and it looked like any other arrest. Then when i read about how the booking and jailing screwed the pooch on getting her help is when i said yeah, it was a shitty deal. Do i think she should have been arrested? Yes. Do i think they got too rough with her? Maybe but old people are frail and like i said before, ive broken ribs on people saving their life before and nobody said i was the bad guy. Do i think she was mistreated once booked. Absolutely. In the end am i gonna lose sleep over a theif getting caught? Nope. If this was my grandma would i care? My grandma had dementia, and she stayed at home until she passed with me and my mother taking care of her with help from a home care nurse. She didnt go wandering around because we cared for her, it was not easy. But we live in a disposable society. How many people on this thread have put someone they love in a nursing home? Ever read up on the horrors of that?
     

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    this lady was injured. i have seen people defend the shooting of daniel shaver. i agree, this can turn police supporters into skeptics or worse.

    why? because just like the police see the worst from perps, they also see the worst from other officers.
    if they are unwilling to condemn, and even go out of their way to defend questionable conduct...this is untenable.
    i am not using this lady as an example, but kelly thomas for example.
    One of the ways to piss off a cop and cause him to pack their shit and leave a range is to call out a dirty fellow cop to him. Rarely will you hear him say, 'Yeah, that guy is a real piece of shit.'
     

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    I don't really see anyone changing their mind from this endless debate. Well, except for my friend @Texasflyer who I believe has def learned to look at the vid before commenting ;-) LOL

    More seriously, we are a fairly homogeneous group compared to the country overall, yet here are....divided....just like the rest of the country on almost any subject.

    Carry on.
     
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    When this all boils out, cools down and over with what do you think will go down?

    1.-We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.
    2.-Settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
    3.- 1 or 2 slugs get fired only to go to some other agency.
    4. Someone does some time in jail and a payout.
    5. A major overhaul of a fucked up Dept.
    6. Sensitivity training for all.
    7. Something else.
    What do you think will happen?
     

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    One of the ways to piss off a cop and cause him to pack their shit and leave a range is to call out a dirty fellow cop to him. Rarely will you hear him say, 'Yeah, that guy is a real piece of shit.'
    Da Tin Bue line and Muh Broverhood......🤒 The police are not policing themselves and they MUST hold themselves to a greater standard with the authority that has been entrusted to them by the general public.
     
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    TexPatriot

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    Da Tin Bue line and Muh Broverhood......🤒 The police are not policing themselves and they MUST hold themselves to a greater standard with the authority that has been entrusted to them by the general public.
    I'm not saying all cops are bad, not by a long shot. I've met some stand up good guys, salt of the earth that I'd instinctively help if I saw them in trouble.

    But those guys hands are tied and can not call out the bad apples and expect to have any kind of support in their dept. if they do.
     

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    How about if the Police Officer, man or woman, that did bad did the paying, not their Union, the Asshole that fucked up, he or she pays.
    Shit would change fast I think.
    The Good LEOs would still be good because they don't do shit like that to start with. but, the Worms would squirm.

    I firmly believe that until ALL LE agencies police their own ranks from within and weed out the people within their ranks that don't belong on the job, this kind of shit will continue.

    By not doing that in the past, we have what we have, an ASS for every seat, good or bad, carry on. Lower your standards to fill those slots in the Academy and those seats in the Patrol vehicles and Higher Ups are happy as they filled their hiring quota.

    How is that working out for them? Not good in my opinion.
     
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