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How about if the Police Officer, man or woman, that did bad did the paying, not their Union, the Asshole that fucked up, he or she pays.
Shit would change fast I think.
The Good LEOs would still be good because they don't do shit like that to start with. but, the Worms would squirm.

I firmly believe that until ALL LE agencies police their own ranks from within and weed out the people within their ranks that don't belong on the job, this kind of shit will continue.

By not doing that in the past, we have what we have, an ASS for every seat, good or bad, carry on. Lower your standards to fill those slots in the Academy and those seats in the Patrol vehicles and Higher Ups are happy as they filled their hiring quota.

How is that working out for them? Not good in my opinion.
I’ve been saying this for years, make them carry their own insurance, the more stupid shit they pull the more their insurance costs until eventually they can’t afford to be cops,
 

And just so you all know, she didn't actually steal anything, only supposedly attempted:

Key wording:
"The store recovered the items before Garner was on her way and suffered no loss."
 
You think maybe the no mask thing was the real issue?
The only people wallmart prosecutes is employees.

Wanted to make an example of the anti masker so sheeple would comply?
 
You think maybe the no mask thing was the real issue?
The only people wallmart prosecutes is employees.

Wanted to make an example of the anti masker so sheeple would comply?

That would explain why the store supposedly called the police after they already knew they had all their stuff back and the woman had left.
Once again the vile Covidian zealots want to punish all who won't bow the knee to worship at the covid altar.
 
You think maybe the no mask thing was the real issue?
The only people wallmart prosecutes is employees.

Wanted to make an example of the anti masker so sheeple would comply?
This was my thought as well.

My criminal defense attorney friends took a bath last year due to covid. One of them was pulling north of $50k per year defending shoplifters from bass pro alone. They just stopped prosecuting and instead have been taking pictures and issuing store bans. DUI's are way down too as local traffic cops have been ordered not to stop drivers for minor infractions.

I watched a guy steel a 60" flat screen TV from walmart, walk back inside and steal another one without getting arrested.

What the hell?
 
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The store ban thing I believe is used for trespass which le will roll on.
Theft is not a concern of the police much these days.

It's a tactic used by many evidently.
The multitude of cameras in wallmart are actually used to keep an eye on employees for productivity and compliance in the guise of " loss prevention" the managers run people by remote controll from the office like a video game.

A customer not complying with thier mask policy must be banned permanently to use as an example and she got away before that information was obtained.

I doubt theft ever was involved at all but a refusal to mask up at the register was not going to get popo out so they improvised.

Disrespect for a chain store, very serious charges so use of force was to be expected.
 
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The store ban thing I believe is used for trespass which le will roll on.
Theft is not a concern of the police much these days.

It's a tactic used by many evidently.
The multitude of cameras in wallmart are actually used to keep an eye on employees for productivity and compliance in the guise of " loss prevention" the managers run people by remote controll from the office like a video game.

A customer not complying with thier mask policy must be banned permanently to use as an example and she got away before that information was obtained.

I doubt theft ever was involved at all but a refusal to mask up at the register was not going to get popo out so they improvised.

Disrespect for a chain store, very serious charges so use of force was to be expected.
Gather at church and you are under arrest.
Have a gathering at your home and you are under arrest.
Close your store or we fine you a $1000 daily.
Close your store or you are under arrest.
Tell your customers they cant come in without a mask or you can be fined/arrested.
But private property.......

Since when does this gov’t give a fuck about private property.
 
That will teach her.

Hell she came close to verbal assult a couple of times there.

I imagine Wally World can't wait to prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law and what with the precived threat to wallmart shoppers and added battering of the boys in blue, wow.

I feel much safer going to the store to buy ammo now.

A dislocated shoulder can be reset by pulling on it and each time seems to hurt a little less.

She can walk it off.
Walmart never prosecutes. they just ask the person to not come back. unless its really bad. im sure the walmart employees probably knew of her and that she was a person with issues. These type of folks just seem to find their way to walmart no matter where they are.
 
You sir are correct.

I worked at wallmart for about 10 months while I had a problem with my regular job.

They told me to stop chasing thieves out of the store. Lol

That place is a riot, daily.

Thats how I know this scenario is bull shit.

The leo initially only wanted her information and would have let her go.

Poor thing was either a very well rehearsed actor or a for real dementia patient.

Intentional thieving or stupidity, I can't say for sure but she did not look like much of a threat to the leo's to me.

I just got through dealing with 2 leo's while armed and didn't get broken even though one of them was a sjw piece of shit.

Literally minutes ago.

They as usual are not doing shit about the situation.
 
So back in the day 25 years ago the police solved problems by taking people to jail. If you were a crook, fucked up, or crazy you went to jail. Now the public expects more of officers and wants us to solve problems through diversion and crisis intervention. The problem is you don’t know if you are dealing with a crook, a crazy person, or a meth head. It takes a little common sense and savvy to be a cop these days. I’m not saying it’s right it is just the way it is.

What happened to that lady wasn’t right. If those cops couldn’t tell that something wasn’t right with her they have no business being cops. There was plenty of time to talk to this lady and there was no way she could have been a legitimate threat to the officers. They could have just talked to the lady to get her to comply. Or if they were worried about her safety they could have stuffed her into the car without putting her into handcuffs.

Just so you dickheads know I would always treat you with respect before I kicked your old asses and took you to jail for stealing from Walmart.
I’m gonna go on record here and say his last paragraph was probably tongue in cheek, because I’ve had more than one run in with the police from where his handle says he’s from, and hands down, some of the best cops out there, and I ain’t defending any cop, just saying Prescott cops will let the drunk cowboys fight and no one gets tased, choked, shot etc, don’t even go to jail, they respect you and if you’ll show just a little back, you go back in the bar and continue on the evening.
 
Yes the way it should be.

Ruined forever by some modern day pussies.
 
I’m gonna go on record here and say his last paragraph was probably tongue in cheek,
Now you people even expect cops to be comedians. (This is another attempt at humor.)

Seriously those guys fucked up, that whole situation could have been handled better. You guys that support the officers, that is appreciated but believe me, they could have used better judgement and discretion. They are definitely going to get some heat for what happened.

I have always handled myself in a manner where I wouldn’t be embarrassed to see someone I arrested while I was out in public with my family. I think a lot of officers wouldn’t have problems if they thought that way.
 
So back in the day 25 years ago the police solved problems by taking people to jail. If you were a crook, fucked up, or crazy you went to jail. Now the public expects more of officers and wants us to solve problems through diversion and crisis intervention. The problem is you don’t know if you are dealing with a crook, a crazy person, or a meth head. It takes a little common sense and savvy to be a cop these days. I’m not saying it’s right it is just the way it is.

What happened to that lady wasn’t right. If those cops couldn’t tell that something wasn’t right with her they have no business being cops. There was plenty of time to talk to this lady and there was no way she could have been a legitimate threat to the officers. They could have just talked to the lady to get her to comply. Or if they were worried about her safety they could have stuffed her into the car without putting her into handcuffs.

Just so you dickheads know I would always treat you with respect before I kicked your old asses and took you to jail for stealing from Walmart.
You wouldn't get me stealing from Walmart. i would have stolen your cruiser, have an epic night of partying including marrying a stripper/ escort and then cut a deal with the cops the following morning to let them taser me in a classroom full of kids. pretty fair exchange i would say.
one of the last funny movies i remember before all this bullshit PC shit wrecked comedies.
 
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It takes a special kind of degenerate and lowlife to physically hurt a 73 year old unarmed lady, and have the temerity to laugh about it.
If the cop wanted to exercise his ego trip and pick a fight, he should grow a pair of balls, find the nearest military recruitment station, join the military, pick up real arms and go fight for your country instead of picking fights with unarmed grannies... his entire department and family should be ashamed of his actions.
 
I live about 105 miles ENE from Loveland, and NO, I am not going to tell you how many hours drive it is for you Shitheads that give directions that way, but that is a different rant.

The local News channels out of Denver have been playing the videos of this incident over and over, but edited, and there is quite the uprage going on up in the Loveland area now. It really cranked up after the video of the Cops involved laughing and fist bumping while watching their own tapes and showing Granny handcuffed to a bench in a cell hurting to say the least and pictures of her injuries have shown up as well. It is not easy to watch.
There is a SGT involved that checks it out and seems to be GTG with it all. That tends to tell me that there are problems deep in that Agency.
The proper mindset required to do that job is not in place there, as far as I am concerned, with how that SGT. reacted.

@Texasflyer had quite a few posts early on in this thread defending LE and I think he is one of them and walking the Thin Blue Line and standing up for anyone with a Badge, right, wrong or whatever. They have a Badge and never fuck up, or if they do, they will not admit it. A big problem to me.
Texasflyer did later on admit that he had not watched the videos and said , maybe he made a mistake but I do believe that was nothing other than sarcasm and ridicule and he was doing nothing other than what I believe that down in Texas that is called "Spoutin" or someyhing like that.

To me, Anyone, that can defend how that whole bin of shit went down, video editted or full time, has a very basic problem and is the root of a lot of evil.
Foul Mike
 
She has dementia. My mom died with that. They dont know what theyre doing half the time. Mom would get up in the middle of the night, leave the nursing home, and go walking around...until they put in alarms on the doors. Even if she was 'guilty' there's no reason t treat a 73 year old woman like that.
How are the cops to know that when they roll up?

You do realize that cops have heard people lie about everything when they're about to be jammed up? So even if the woman said "I have dementia" how much do you think the cops would have believed.

How do we know the video shows everything?
 
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So I am going to take a WAG and say that you can't tell Pedo Joe is mentally handicapped?
How are the cops to know that when they roll up?

You do realize that cops have heard people lie about everything when they're about to be jammed up? So even if the woman said "I have dementia" how much do you think the cops would have believed.

How do we know the video shows everything?
De-escalation!!
 
I live about 105 miles ENE from Loveland, and NO, I am not going to tell you how many hours drive it is for you Shitheads that give directions that way, but that is a different rant.

The local News channels out of Denver have been playing the videos of this incident over and over, but edited, and there is quite the uprage going on up in the Loveland area now. It really cranked up after the video of the Cops involved laughing and fist bumping while watching their own tapes and showing Granny handcuffed to a bench in a cell hurting to say the least and pictures of her injuries have shown up as well. It is not easy to watch.
There is a SGT involved that checks it out and seems to be GTG with it all. That tends to tell me that there are problems deep in that Agency.
The proper mindset required to do that job is not in place there, as far as I am concerned, with how that SGT. reacted.

@Texasflyer had quite a few posts early on in this thread defending LE and I think he is one of them and walking the Thin Blue Line and standing up for anyone with a Badge, right, wrong or whatever. They have a Badge and never fuck up, or if they do, they will not admit it. A big problem to me.
Texasflyer did later on admit that he had not watched the videos and said , maybe he made a mistake but I do believe that was nothing other than sarcasm and ridicule and he was doing nothing other than what I believe that down in Texas that is called "Spoutin" or someyhing like that.

To me, Anyone, that can defend how that whole bin of shit went down, video editted or full time, has a very basic problem and is the root of a lot of evil.
Foul Mike
No, i really did do further research and openly changed my position. Being wrong happens, but being a man means owning your mistakes, even at the cost of pride or ridicule. I watched the arrest part and made my misguided stand. Its 14 mins of screaming and yelling... i just didnt wanna go thru that. After seeing all the reactions i decided there was more to it and i needed to educate myself. Yeah, i shoulda just kept my mouth shut until i was properly informed. Will i take the side of an officer of the law over a criminal? Every single day.
 
Where is the vidio from wallmart?

Or was that Epsteined?
 
Where is the vidio from wallmart?

Or was that Epsteined?

I have no proof so this is just simply a possibility.
But it would not surprise me if the video from walmart was "corrupted" or otherwise erased, because it might possibly show that the old woman went to pay and the cashier was a Covidian and refused to check her out because she wasn't wearing the mask of submission to the covid religion and so she took the items away after some yes you will, no I won't discussion and then the old woman left empty handed but that wasn't good enough for the Covidian Zealots who wanted to punish all heretics and so they placed a false police call saying she was stealing as a way to swat her and the police rolled up and put the boots to her with gusto and enjoyed every minute of it.

Again the above is purely speculation, but might explain why you might never see the walmart video...

I wonder if her family's lawyer is ballsy enough to go after walmart for filing a false police report and causing the whole thing?

The police department themselves may want to start going after whoever called in the false report to try to shift the blame / liability as well.
 
No, i really did do further research and openly changed my position. Being wrong happens, but being a man means owning your mistakes, even at the cost of pride or ridicule. I watched the arrest part and made my misguided stand. Its 14 mins of screaming and yelling... i just didnt wanna go thru that. After seeing all the reactions i decided there was more to it and i needed to educate myself. Yeah, i shoulda just kept my mouth shut until i was properly informed. Will i take the side of an officer of the law over a criminal? Every single day.
Annnnnd

You keep proving me correct about you.

Keep on doubling down on that there stupid.

It's pretty amusing to say the least. Like listening to AOC blather on about adult things with a child's viewpoint.

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@W54/XM-388 wins the internet today.

Pretty much verbatim of what went down.

Like I said they did not get information to ban her for her blastfamy and got pissy.

And originally leo only wanted her id to give to wallmart.

Lies, mistakes and more that went on will bite them in the ass.

My arm was ripped out of the socket by a big mean mf in a fight (he lost) and didn't look like that.
But I was not that old or frail at the time. Maybe since there was an Army medic veteran there to pop it back in pdq it faired better.

Still hurts every time it pops out now with little effort.
 
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Awesome, but unfortunately they will just move onto the next department........ I hope she sues them into bankruptcy......
I just happened to come across the article and remembered this thread so thought I'd share. Wasn't saying that they got what they deserved or anything. I believe it mentioned they weren't sure if they were even fired or if they just resigned. I imagine it's easier to hop onto another department if the latter occurred.
 
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