Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

[Namekagon]

And you sound like someone that is talking tough stuff but we all know you aren't going to anything but sit on your computer? What does that make you exactly? A politician?

How about I am just not afraid of the world like some of y'all. Whatever game someone is playing, they are winning with how paranoid and afraid you and a few others here sound.

Reagan said it best when he said (paraphrasing) “is nothing worth dying for? And if not, when did that change?”

We are absolutely not there yet. Especially considering that the sane people are in power. But even if not, we are not there yet.

But we ARE closer than we were yesterday, and anyone who denies that lies to themselves. Plan accordingly.

 

[mosin46]

If you were a medic you should be aware of a little thing called “Decorticate Posturing” sure looks like it even though it’s not the textbook injury to cause it.

i've seen a bunch of decorticate and decerebrate posturing in the ER and ICU it doesn't happen immediately after a hit like this. it takes time to develope on the way to brain death. times vary. as i recall the vid,his Rt arm moved up. never heard of posturing being unilateral and only involving the upper extremities. possible i guess,but....what hankpac said is the likely explanation. doesn't matter,he was dead when he hit the ground and posturing doesn't happen when the whole system has been shut down which is likely from what looks like a carotid hit.
he didn't suffer which means very little except to family maybe. his way of working was a bit unique. FTF respectful take downs of idiots and their ideas. his loss will be felt.
what is your knowledge,education or experience with acute or emergent neurosurgical injury and care? my bet it is doesn't come close to experience in the A Shau in '68. again,doesn't matter the guy was murdered for his beliefs.

 

[akmike47]

i've seen a bunch of decorticate and decerebrate posturing in the ER and ICU it doesn't happen immediately after a hit like this. it takes time to develope on the way to brain death. times vary. as i recall the vid,his Rt arm moved up. never heard of posturing being unilateral and only involving the upper extremities. possible i guess,but....what hankpac said is the likely explanation. doesn't matter,he was dead when he hit the ground.
he didn't suffer which means very little except to family maybe. his way of working was a bit unique. FTF respectful take downs of idiots and their ideas. his loss will be felt.

I’ve also seen people killed and injured as well as seeing the limbs draw up with injuries. One arm drawing up would be more of a fencing response.

Feast your eyes on both arms drawing up

Like I said may not be exactly text book but it’s the closest thing I can think of and I rarely saw textbook stuff in the workplace

 

[mtrmn]

Sounded like a rifle to me.

Sonic crack of the bullet, from a suppressed rifle

 

[Terry Cross]

Why are we not filling the streets......we all know what this means. But yet none will openly admit it.

Doc

First off, your grammar sucks.
I'm sending you a box of Question Marks along with other punctuation and a How To video.


Secondly, that is the stupidest shit somebody could say right now.
You know, like it's almost scripted. . . . . .

Filling the streets and doing what exactly?
You calling for everybody to mindlessly pile on is exactly the kind of bullshit I don't want to worry with if things get tough.

An emotional knee jerk reaction is what they are trying to cultivate and here is your dumb ass willing to oblige them.

 

[WTF-2-EDC]

 

[theLBC]

 

[Darryle]

So why is our side not doxxing these people and taking care of business at this point.

Doc

Probably because we operate with rational thought, process and level headedness, maybe we need to take the gloves off and go tit for tat

We also know, the Pit is a fine example, 1 boy is a boy, 2 boys are 1/2 a boy and 3 boys is no boy at all.

They cheer this when in groups of their peers, but wouldn't act like this in public on their own out of fear.


God Speed and God bless his family, he'll be missed and hard to replace

 

[LuckyLuke80]

So much extreme feelings flying around from both “sides” of the political spectrum. I can’t stand the things that extreme liberals say, but the 1st amendment is there for the discourse of ideas. Talk of shooting people that verbally disagree with us is exactly how extremists want this to go. If we do as they do we are no better and we push this whole mess right off the edge and into a civil war. If we devolve into a shooting war neither side “wins”. The nation as a whole loses and we become China or Russia or whoever easily takes us over.

 

[theLBC]

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

Poso needs to be in a highly secured location. IMMED

 

[Darryle]

Notice the scrub is being attempted

 

[Maggot]

Be careful.



One mistake easily made is painting with too broad a brush.

Where do you draw the line with the Left?
There is no clear delineation.
I know a few left of center people that I have large differences of opinion with but they are reasonable in that they despise and denounce the stupid shit extreme people on their side of center are cheering on.

If we are not wise enough to exercise discretion with any effort, we have no moral ground to stand and win upon.




The second mistake easily made is under-estimating your potential opponent.

Are some of them mentally deficient? Yep. So are a ton of idiots that are right wing/conservative.
It is possible to be very intelligent AND evil.
Going in with a cocky and arrogant attitude is a mortal sin that you may or may not survive.


I'm not saying you are right or wrong. I am encouraging everyone to avoid making decisions and opinions based on emotion.

Rage, hate and passion are just a few things that can be manipulated to our undoing if we are not guarded.
That is an important statement when we stop and realize that every avenue of information is being tweaked to manipulate those very emotions.



Be careful.

What would Charlie say? Forgive.

A bit beyond me at the moment.

 

[ironman56]

Haven't read all 7 pages yet ,so someone might have already asked. What's the over under of the shooter being Trans?

 

[P-Squared]

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Welcome to the pit you whiny bitch

Careful @akmike47, giving-a-fuck is like a gateway drug to empathy. From there it's a short distance to retardation. For goodness sake 'NEVER GO FULL RETARD'. The best way to do that is don't give that first fuck, just say no.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

I’ve also seen people killed and injured as well as seeing the limbs draw up with injuries. One arm drawing up would be more of a fencing response.

Feast your eyes on both arms drawing up
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My dad’s favorite place to shoot deer was in the neck. Almost without fail the front legs come straight up and the body hits the deck in a heap.

 

[TahoeDust]

Red dot is approximately where they are filming from, question mark the possible location of shooter and approximately the distance they are claiming
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[DuneBoer]

I’ve also seen people killed and injured as well as seeing the limbs draw up with injuries. One arm drawing up would be more of a fencing response.

Feast your eyes on both arms drawing up
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[Buzzinga]

Wearing my MAGA hat, a lady at the grocery store just came up to me, said, “I like your hat, so sad about Charlie Kirk”.

She was unable to say those few words without tearing up.

The world feels different today.

 

[XP1K]

Suppressed or not, that sound was not a muzzle report. It was a sonic crack. The shooter was far away. The shooter aimed for the head and hit the neck. Bullets drop at long distances. This is a rifle forum afterall.

Several people I know commented that it sounded like a pistol. I immediately thought suppressed rifle. Maybe I need to watch the footage a little closer, but all I heard was a crack when it passed the camera.

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[armorpl8chikn]

Because they wouldn’t be much of an adversary? Said everyone ever in a long drawn out civil war. I remember when we were going to invade the ME and quickly overwhelm some sheep herders too

You aren't as intelligent as i gave you credit for. I am disapointed.

 

[Terry Cross]

What would Charlie say? Forgive.

No.
I don't think he would.

I also don't think he would be off the chain mowing down anybody that isn't wearing a MAGA hat.


Of course any of us including myself that think we could speak for him would be fools to make such assumptions.

 

[theLBC]

 

[lonegunman762x51]

CNN hosts are giddy. The current one on now is all smiles. Fucking democrats.

Looks like they caught a weirdo with an air rifle. Great catch.

 

[Snuby642]

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I think we have enough posturing going on, but thanks.

 

[Lawless]

Supposedly this is him

 

[Lawless]

 

[Maggot]

No.
I don't think he would.

I also don't think he would be off the chain mowing down anybody that isn't wearing a MAGA hat.


Of course any of us including myself that think we could speak for him would be fools to make such assumptions.

I think he would, Tery, because thats what Christ would say and he represented Christ. As I mentioned, I havet reached that stage yet, though I'm working on it.

Jesus told us that if we don’t forgive, then we are the ones who suffer spiritual torment (see Matthew 18:21-35).

But this isnt a time to argue. Be well, sir, and RIP Charlie.

 

[Jethro3898]

I’m usually not a person who reacts to news like this, but this one is hitting a little hard. Just so unnecessary. I am just leveled for his wife and 2 small kids. So senseless.

I knew who Kirk was, but never really paid much attention to him until VERY recently. Over the last 2 or 3 months I got hooked into listening to his podcast and came to realize how special of a guy he was. Not a “bomb thrower”. Very thoughtful in his arguments and patient with those who were in the side opposite of him. Not meaning to say anything untoward, but I cannot believe that of all people to target, someone targeted him. What I experienced from his podcast and the video clips I saw was unbelievable levels of grace and compassion….never wavering in what he felt was truth……always trying to turn the discussion back to Christ and the teachings of the Bible.

I’m thinking back on a recent podcast I listened to. Unless I am totally losing it, I swear he made a comment about not being afraid to die for what he was doing. It breaks my heart that he ultimately did. I can’t see the end of this, but I pray that somehow, something good comes from this.

 

[Makinchips208]

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Air rifle?

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Just got an e-mail from a friend in the UK saying how much she is upset by this. Apparently, Charlie Kirk was a big thing in England, too. She reads Breitbart and watches Newsmax... because the BBC is Marxist trash.

He was not just an American icon... but an icon for people who love their countries everywhere. That's a pretty good legacy!

Sirhr

 

[XP1K]

Especially considering that the sane people are in power.

You sure about that ?

 

[kthomas]

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Hard to tell from the pic, but to me that looks like a springer/break-action air rifle. Like a Crossman Summit.

Edit - watched the video some more, I definitely think that's an air rifle.

 

[MK20]

I think he would, Tery, because thats what Christ would say and he represented Christ. As I mentioned, I havet reached that stage yet, though I'm working on it.

Jesus told us that if we don’t forgive, then we are the ones who suffer spiritual torment (see Matthew 18:21-35).

But this isnt a time to argue. Be well, sir, and RIP Charlie.

Jesus also got pissed off, took the time to make a weapon (a whip) and beat the evildoers until they fled from their livelihoods and left the temple.

Get the fuck out of here with your weak, pathetic, turn the other cheek, Boomer take on Christianity.

Go get your testosterone checked.

 

[leclairk]

Little did he know. Crazy

 

[mosin46]

Where is the heads rolling and massive investigations into Trump’s own attempted assassinations.

If that wasn’t enough, what ever will be!

don't look for much. is being investigated by ss and fbi? they set it up,so don't get too expectant.

 

[Ledzep]

Air rifle?

 

[Lawless]

Hard to tell from the pic, but to me that looks like a springer/break-action air rifle. Like a Crossman Summit.

Yeah I am reading that now. Not sure what is going on

 

[Alan Warner]

Just got an e-mail from a friend in the UK saying how much she is upset by this. Apparently, Charlie Kirk was a big thing in England, too. She reads Breitbart and watches Newsmax... because the BBC is Marxist trash.

He was not just an American icon... but an icon for people who love their countries everywhere. That's a pretty good legacy!

Sirhr

It's time to re unite the committees of correspondence. Post haste.

 

[Rthur]

Saying they caught him. Again.

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Let's have the name and a fucking pic.
No playing scrub the social media footprint bullshit again.

R

 

[Snuby642]

Pencil barrel hunting rifle that's threaded for a can.

Capable of shanking a 125 yd shot.

Plausible

 

[Terry Cross]

I think he would, Tery, because thats what Christ would say and he represented Christ. As I mentioned, I havet reached that stage yet, though I'm working on it.

Jesus told us that if we don’t forgive, then we are the ones who suffer spiritual torment (see Matthew 18:21-35).

But this isnt a time to argue. Be well, sir, and RIP Charlie.

You are not wrong.
Well put.

In fact you are probably exactly right about the way Charlie would handle things. He is much more of a solid human that I could ever be.

 

[alamo5000]

Suppressed or not, that sound was not a muzzle report. It was a sonic crack. The shooter was far away. The shooter aimed for the head and hit the neck. Bullets drop at long distances. This is a rifle forum afterall.

I would say if the shooter was up on a high building he didn't compensate for the downhill angle. Probably aimed for the heart and hit the neck.

 

[theLBC]

 

[alamo5000]

Google Earth with all the 3D buildings makes it clear that the end of the gray building with the tiered roof is probably the furthest vantage point for clear shot down. He was down in the bottom of the amphitheater and the shooter would have to be elevated. 400' plus or minus depending on which tier he was set up, and that doesn't take into account elevation, so take away distance for elevation change. Most likely the shooter isn't a pro at all, was aiming at his head, and actually hit low on his neck, so a 6"+ miss at 100+ yards, and low. You would think with the elevation difference it would have missed high, but the shooter sucked. If the shooter was inexperienced, but still aimed at his chest, it makes sense he would miss high not taking into account the elevation difference. Pure speculation, but to me the impact screams someone who can't shoot straight.

Down hill shots hit high. Aiming for the heart and hit the neck is probably more than likely.

 

[dustingaunder]

Is that a break action pellet gun?

 

[jmar]

What's with the air rifle yet an obvious crack of the sound barrier being broken is heard. Look how thin the barrel looks on that rifle. Not only that in the video you see his shirt and body jiggle from the impact, that is a round with a lot of energy. Hope they find the actual shooter today. Prayers out for his family and friends.

 

[Supersubes]

Air rifle?

Ya, looks like a break barrel spring air rifle.

 

[Peloton]

Morherfuckers

 

[LuckyLuke80]

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Looks identical to my pellet rifle, except the front sight shroud is broke on mine