Somebody is trying to pay Wagner to go help the Palestinians..
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Sure, but Iran is also sponsored by Russia, and China.
Thats a good way to get into a Nuclear war, not a incident , or conflict. That’s world ending events if the wrong people lose their cool.
That would also go against Israeli interest, and surely would go against our own. Especially with Lebanon point missles right at Israel’s north flank. Fighting a multi front war seems like a shit deal…
What if China wanted the U.S. very occupied so Taiwan was opened up. So many possibilities.
He doesn't know the physics - it's just an exercise in sci-fi rhetoric.
The most probable deployment of "EMP" tech on the battlefield would be to knock out radio comms gear and maybe some consumer-grade electronics. This would have the interesting effect of disrupting the operations of a mid-tech adversary (think Ukraine) which is dependent upon unhardened technology like DJI drones and radio comms to coordinate the actions of poorly-trained troops.
An advanced well-trained opponent (Israel) would have robust electronics gear (something like an Aimpoint or JLTV is harder to knock out than most people comprehend), and the loss of communications can be tolerated by well-trained troops who understand the commanders' intentions. (And as we move towards unmanned and autonomous systems, the same applies - unsophisticated systems need real-time control via RF, where as more sophisticated systems will be "fire and forget" like cruise missiles have been for decades.)
On the flip side, a poorly-trained and -equipped adversary won't be affected because there is nothing to disrupt - a swam of jihadists with AKs will be largely unaware than anything is happening.
The emissions would tend to be in the RF bands because you're not getting to get low-frequency E3-like effects from portable devices. RF can generally be directed and so I would expect that this would be aimed at the enemy, as not doing so is inefficient and potentially disruptive to friendly forces.
China also wants the US out of the Middle East and Africa, because they need the natural resources (and maybe the population).
That's one possibility. The other is that it gets swept free of the population and reverts back to something like a natural area for a few generations.
So the more I hear the “intelligence failure” drum being beaten… the more I am starting to dismiss it.
For one, it required a giant conspiracy across multiple bureaucracies… which everyone seems to think are infiltrated by Israel anyway. For another, it’s all 20-20 hindsight. It does not add up that “everyone” was out to get Israel.
The second and main reason is that it does not give credit to Hamas. Which is also a sophisticated, organized, motivated force. Not much different from the intelligent and creative 911 attackers. Evil, yes… dumb… no. Both highly-planned, organized and sophisticated attacks.
Also, Hamas is not a ragtag bunch of goat herders. Hamas is an elected government and a state actor. Here they acted like a state. Albeit a small one, launching a surprise attack across a border, with all the expertise of a state. Did they have help? Certainly. State actors have Allies and those who use them as proxies. Did they have good planning skills? Apparently yes. We’re they creative in their methods? Yes and to the point of probably causing a lot more damage than they ever dreamed of (like Bin Laden).
But shrugging this off as an intelligence failure or conspiracy, IMHO, reduces Hamas to a rabble that got lucky. And reinforces the narrative that is now being spun that “oh… Hamas is just terrorists and the poor people in Gaza are paying the price.” Israel bad. Bullshit. This is a psy-op message also being used by Hamas and the left to rein in Israel and shore up Hamas. Again.
Hamas is a state actor. Gaza is a state. A nation in all but large territory. With an elected government duly recognized… by the people and by many nations and NGO’s. As such, they acted like a nation state. And should be held accountable as a nation state. Hamas was not “fish swimming in the population” (to butcher Mao). It was the democratically-elected government of the people of Gaza and it acted like a rogue nation state in launching a vicious surprise cross-border attack. With all the creativity and planning that a nation can muster.
I will argue that it was not a conspiracy of the West or a deliberate “open the doors” by Israel any more than Pearl Harbor was. Remember, we simply didn’t think that the pointy-head Japs (who could not see well With their slanty eyes) could pull off a surprise attack. We under-estimated them and paid dearly for a year. Arguably for almost 4 years.
Never underestimate your enemy. Never look for an excuse to denigrate their skills and capabilities. If you do, you will lose again and again. Blaming conspiracy and intelligence both lowers our resolve AND gives Hamas an excuse to hide behind — which was probably pre-planned by their “information” Wing. (Message: It was just a few bad apples… as folks here like to say. Don’t attack us, we are all innocent.)
Hamas is a nation by any definition. They acted like one. They used their tax and aid money to pay for guns, not butter. They need to be treated as one. And their evil can’t be sloughed off as “it was a conspiracy.” No, it was a policy. Of the government. To become an armed, genocidal state.
When Gaza looks like Tokyo March ‘45 the world will get a reminder of what happens to governments that start wars. And the people who put them there and cheered their leaders.
Stop giving air cover to Hamas with tinfoil
Hat BS. Look close and realize that just because the enemy shits in a hole doesn’t make them less intelligent and creative and motivated. In other words, more dangerous than imaginable.
Didn’t we learn anything over the past 20+ years?
Sirhr
For one, it required a giant conspiracy across multiple bureaucracies… which everyone seems to think are infiltrated by Israel anyway. For another, it’s all 20-20 hindsight. It does not add up that “everyone” was out to get Israel.
The second and main reason is that it does not give credit to Hamas. Which is also a sophisticated, organized, motivated force. Not much different from the intelligent and creative 911 attackers. Evil, yes… dumb… no. Both highly-planned, organized and sophisticated attacks.
Also, Hamas is not a ragtag bunch of goat herders. Hamas is an elected government and a state actor. Here they acted like a state. Albeit a small one, launching a surprise attack across a border, with all the expertise of a state. Did they have help? Certainly. State actors have Allies and those who use them as proxies. Did they have good planning skills? Apparently yes. We’re they creative in their methods? Yes and to the point of probably causing a lot more damage than they ever dreamed of (like Bin Laden).
But shrugging this off as an intelligence failure or conspiracy, IMHO, reduces Hamas to a rabble that got lucky. And reinforces the narrative that is now being spun that “oh… Hamas is just terrorists and the poor people in Gaza are paying the price.” Israel bad. Bullshit. This is a psy-op message also being used by Hamas and the left to rein in Israel and shore up Hamas. Again.
Hamas is a state actor. Gaza is a state. A nation in all but large territory. With an elected government duly recognized… by the people and by many nations and NGO’s. As such, they acted like a nation state. And should be held accountable as a nation state. Hamas was not “fish swimming in the population” (to butcher Mao). It was the democratically-elected government of the people of Gaza and it acted like a rogue nation state in launching a vicious surprise cross-border attack. With all the creativity and planning that a nation can muster.
I will argue that it was not a conspiracy of the West or a deliberate “open the doors” by Israel any more than Pearl Harbor was. Remember, we simply didn’t think that the pointy-head Japs (who could not see well With their slanty eyes) could pull off a surprise attack. We under-estimated them and paid dearly for a year. Arguably for almost 4 years.
Never underestimate your enemy. Never look for an excuse to denigrate their skills and capabilities. If you do, you will lose again and again. Blaming conspiracy and intelligence both lowers our resolve AND gives Hamas an excuse to hide behind — which was probably pre-planned by their “information” Wing. (Message: It was just a few bad apples… as folks here like to say. Don’t attack us, we are all innocent.)
Hamas is a nation by any definition. They acted like one. They used their tax and aid money to pay for guns, not butter. They need to be treated as one. And their evil can’t be sloughed off as “it was a conspiracy.” No, it was a policy. Of the government. To become an armed, genocidal state.
When Gaza looks like Tokyo March ‘45 the world will get a reminder of what happens to governments that start wars. And the people who put them there and cheered their leaders.
Stop giving air cover to Hamas with tinfoil
Hat BS. Look close and realize that just because the enemy shits in a hole doesn’t make them less intelligent and creative and motivated. In other words, more dangerous than imaginable.
Didn’t we learn anything over the past 20+ years?
Sirhr
Something a bit less serious but maybe still to the Point
Wondering how the founders of Harvard view their creation today?
Wondering how the founders of Harvard view their creation today?
US Confirms 2nd Carrier Group En Route To “Deter Hostile Actions Against Israel”
Update (2100ET): The Pentagon has ordered a second carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean Sea, according to two US officials, as Israel prepares to expand its Gaza operations. The first …
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The borders they think God owes them are a bit broader than the ones currently recognized.
He has said that but it's absolutely not true. His son dying is absolutely horrible and no one should have to suffer that endless pain but he did not die in Iraq or as a result of any fighting. He died of brain cancer.
Watch this video. Start at the 30 minute mark. The whole video is very good, but start there as a counter to your argument, but there are other places that say what you are saying - Hamas has matured in their ability.
Egypt Mulls Allowing Refugees Entry As Over 600,000 Gazans Move South; FBI Warns Of Hamas Attacks On US Soil | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com 
What a surprise
Dude literaly wanted to show up to scoop up some $$$ going to Israel ,and was politely told to fuck off.
That is just mean
Dude literaly wanted to show up to scoop up some $$$ going to Israel ,and was politely told to fuck off.
That is just mean
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When you realize that Harvard liberals, Hamas/Islam, LGBT, etc. all have a vested interest in:
1. The God of Israel (as described in their Scriptures) NOT being the true God
2. Jesus NOT being God
…these otherwise completely incompatible relationships make sense. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is a pretty compelling thought when you’re concerned that the big enemy might be Diety.
It’s amazing how much becomes clear in our own domestic political alliances (and insane policies)when you start considering this motive.
Putin said that they are up there..Whatever happened to project thor?
These Air Force 'rods from God' could hit with the force of a nuclear weapon
The 107-country Outer Space Treaty signed in 1967 prohibits nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons from being placed or used from Earth's orbit. What they didn't count on was the U.S. Air Force's most simple weapon ever: a tungsten rod that cou…www.wearethemighty.com
Hand held, thermobaric bombs - 'used by Hamas' per IDF
skip to 1:11
www.breitbart.com
skip to 1:11
NBC Sanchez Shows Large Cache of Weapons Taken from Slain Hamas Fighters by IDF
Sunday on MSNBC's special coverage of the Israel-Hamas war, NBC News reporter Raf Sanchez gave a first look at a large cache of weapons taken from slain Hamas fighters by the Israel Defense Forces. | Clips
www.breitbart.com 
That did not look like an airstrike. Airstrike explosions have distinct characteristics. First, there would be an impact blast, from the kinetic energy of the hundred or thousand pound piece of ordnance striking at supersonic velocity. A solid cloud of debris and dust will mushroom out from ground level like a blooming flower, and then the detonation in the middle of that bloom. The resulting cloud viewed from a distance will resemble a giant caricature of 'cock and balls'. The base of the 'balls' being the impact strike and the rapidly ballooning 'cock' of the main ordnance detonation rising above that. There would also be a crater left in the ground afterward. No matter asphalt or concrete, an airstrike WILL crater the ground. The explosion shown here appears to be an explosive device hidden in a vehicle and probably detonated accidentally by militants trying to transport the device in a hurry. Everybody knows that Islamic terrorists are not the best technical geniuses when it comes to creating safety devices for their IEDs and accidents happen frequently.
Yeah, right-wing extremists are nothing to worry about.
(5) Fatal terrorist attacks by far-right-wing extremists include—
(A) the August 5, 2012, mass shooting at a Sikh gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, in which a White supremacist shot and killed 6 members of the gurdwara;
(B) the April 13, 2014, mass shooting at a Jewish community center and a Jewish assisted living facility in Overland Park, Kansas, in which a neo-Nazi shot and killed 3 civilians, including a 14-year-old teenager;
(C) the June 8, 2014, ambush in Las Vegas, Nevada, in which 2 supporters of the far-right-wing “patriot” movement shot and killed 2 police officers and a civilian;
(D) the June 17, 2015, mass shooting at the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, in which a White supremacist shot and killed 9 members of the church;
(E) the November 27, 2015, mass shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in which an anti-abortion extremist shot and killed a police officer and 2 civilians;
(F) the March 20, 2017, murder of an African-American man in New York City, allegedly committed by a White supremacist who reportedly traveled to New York “for the purpose of killing black men”;
(G) the May 26, 2017, attack in Portland, Oregon, in which a White supremacist allegedly murdered 2 men and injured a third after the men defended 2 young women whom the individual had targeted with anti-Muslim hate speech;
(H) the August 12, 2017, attack in Charlottesville, Virginia, in which a White supremacist killed one and injured nineteen after driving his car through a crowd of individuals protesting a neo-Nazi rally, and of which former Attorney General Jeff Sessions said, “It does meet the definition of domestic terrorism in our statute.”;
(I) the July 2018 murder of an African-American woman from Kansas City, Missouri, allegedly committed by a White supremacist who reportedly bragged about being a member of the Ku Klux Klan;
(J) the October 24, 2018, shooting in Jeffersontown, Kentucky, in which a White man allegedly murdered 2 African Americans at a grocery store after first attempting to enter a church with a predominantly African-American congregation during a service; and
(K) the October 27, 2018, mass shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in which a White nationalist allegedly shot and killed 11 members of the congregation.
(6) In November 2018, the Federal Bureau of Investigation released its annual hate crime incident report, which found that in 2017, hate crimes increased by approximately 17 percent, including a 23-percent increase in religion-based hate crimes, an 18-percent increase in race-based crimes, and a 5-percent increase in crimes directed against LGBT individuals. The total number of reported hate crimes rose for the third consecutive year. The previous year's report found that in 2016, hate crimes increased by almost 5 percent, including a 19-percent rise in hate crimes against American Muslims; additionally, of the hate crimes motivated by religious bias in 2016, 53 percent were anti-Semitic. Similarly, the report analyzing 2015 data found that hate crimes increased by 6 percent that year. Much of the 2015 increase came from a 66-percent rise in attacks on American Muslims and a 9-percent rise in attacks on American Jews. In all three reports, race-based crimes were most numerous, and those crimes most often targeted African Americans.
(7) On March 15, 2019, a White nationalist was arrested and charged with murder after allegedly killing 50 Muslim worshippers and injuring more than 40 in a massacre at the Al Noor Mosque and Linwood Mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand. The alleged shooter posted a hate-filled, xenophobic manifesto that detailed his White nationalist ideology before the massacre. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern labeled the massacre a terrorist attack.
(8) In January 2017, a right-wing extremist who had expressed anti-Muslim views was charged with murder for allegedly killing 6 people and injuring 19 in a shooting rampage at a mosque in Quebec City, Canada. It was the first-ever mass shooting at a mosque in North America, and Prime Minister Trudeau labeled it a terrorist attack.
(9) On February 15, 2019, Federal authorities arrested U.S. Coast Guard Lieutenant Christopher Paul Hasson, who was allegedly planning to kill a number of prominent journalists, professors, judges, and “leftists in general”. In court filings, prosecutors described Lieutenant Hasson as a “domestic terrorist” who in an email “identified himself as a White Nationalist for over 30 years and advocated for ‘focused violence’ in order to establish a white homeland.”.
As Chicago Nears 700 Murders for 3rd Straight Year, Mayor’s Race Focuses on Public Safety
The surge of crime and violence that peaked during the COVID-19 pandemic but has yet to recede has imperiled Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s bid for a second term, even as the eight major candidates running to unseat her offer wildly different solutions to the seemingly intractable problem.
Apparently rwe have gone undercover and are disguising themselves as.......
Seems pretty simple.
Why would Israel target civilians exiting Gaza ? Not much motivation or upside, only downside in the eyes of the court of world opinion.
Why would Hamas target civilians exiting Gaza ? Well, first of all, because they told them to stay. Why ? So that Hamas could do exactly what happened and blame it on the Israelis. Second, and more importantly, Hamas could (after the fact) make the false claim that Israel targeted civilians, when in reality, it was a Hamas car/van bomb that did the dirty work.
This one isn't even complicated.
The source of that is Tehran according to what I have seen.
I am thinking it’s our own communists trying to bring heat on Tuberville to appoint more commies in the military and to further the lie of a MAGA racist military.
I am calling BS on this. I would believe that our troops are against dying for ANY other country after the 20 year "War on Terror", seeing the debacle in Afghanistan, seeing the BS that is Ukraine, and hourly BS from woke chain of command.
I didn't read anything past the first sentence about "right wing extremists", busy slicing xingbaogu mushrooms for stir fry with asparagus and ginger later, but all I have to do is to carry a considerable amount of cash on me, wear some new looking name brand fashion clothes, and take a walk through any large or medium city anywhere in the country and I will quickly know who are the real threats to the lives and safety of ordinary people. Taking mass transit is also a nice experiment. All the times I had gotten up and quietly and quickly exfil'd the car and went into the next car were not because of MAGA hat wearing "right wing extremists" or a group of Jewish kids that's for certain...
Propaganda only affects those who shut themselves in and whose only windows to the world are their TV screens. Doesn't work on those who are constantly observant of everything that is happening around them. Nope, sorry bub...
I never said there were not "nothing" to worry about. I am not defending it either, but don't put words in my mouth! But 3000+ Americans killed on 911, and hundreds of thousands by fentanyl from cartels. Millions of illegals, many of them on the terrorist watch list comming across our border, with impunity. The massive weight of the facts nullify your very flacid arguement. We have way bigger problems in this country that need attention, and it's not white supremacy, not by a long stretch.
Since you bring up Christchurch (in New Zealand) then it shows your williness to stretch the context of this topic outside of our borders. I dare you to do that with radical islamic violence, and be sure to include what just transpired in Israel with over 1000 dead in a terrorist attack last week. Obviously, as bad as far right white extremism is, it shouldn't be number one on the FBI list, not even close. I'm saying let's get our priorities correct for the sake of Americas safty. If you can't agree with that, or the facts, then you have a warped sense of reality.
Facts not feelings!
Wow! You really believe all that drivel? Read your own post. Half of those listed indicate “suspected right-wing”, “allegedly committed by a white-supremicist”, or “alleged assailant”. Most of the others were a white person shooting a couple police or a couple people in a store and you call that terrorism?
What do we call all those multiple murders committed by black persons against those of a different race? The numbers are much higher in every state and large city in the country. What about the propensity of the MSM to refer to murders by Hispanic persons, against those of other races, as white. We all know that to be a trend.
You’re a fucking tool if you believe what you posted. An uninformed sheep tool. Line up for your next shots.
ETA: forgot to note that you conveniently include Canada and New Zealand in your fake stats to try and pad the numbers.
Last I heard - Antifa was listed as a Right-Wing Extremist IDEA....
Because according to the FBI - it doesn't even exist.
Because according to the FBI - it doesn't even exist.
You’re a fucking tool if you believe what you posted. An uninformed sheep tool. Line up for your next shots.
Maybe just glows hard? All statistics an be manipulated... remember the Boulder Springs groccery shooter? He was "white" too...
Leftists are funny: Muslims committing murder are white but if they want to portray Jesus they make him black.
So anti-semitic Muslims are far-right extremists? This one was just found guilty of 63 charges including 11 hate crimes...shame they took the death penalty off the table here.
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US sends 'be ready to deploy' orders to select troops as Israel-Hamas war escalates
Israel fends off aggression at Lebanon border as it prepares to invade Gaza
On October 16, Israeli Defense Forces are poised to begin a groun operation in Gaza against Hamas terrorists. Meanwhile, Hezbollah is carrying out attacks at Israel's northern border, and Iran is threatening to join the conflict.
www.foxnews.com 
There is that word in all them news reports that makes it 100% believable.
"allegedly"
Weapon jam clearing FAIL... In this case, a very fatal fail...
Hamas Taliban militant eating his own shotgun from a chamber obstruction clearing attempt gone wrong:
CORRECTION: FOOTAGE IS FROM AFGHANISTAN AND THE OLDER WAR.
CORRECTION: FOOTAGE IS FROM AFGHANISTAN AND THE OLDER WAR.
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