Is this the one you were testing on your sheep hunt?
Rifle Scopes Something New From Vortex
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Is this the one you were testing on your sheep hunt?
Meh, no thanks. I'm guessing it will probably sell, though.
It's $200 less than the SE and $100 more than Diamondback Tactical.
Also might want to edit your title before getting that Arken.
Either way give or take a couple hundred. Ain't gonna buy either, I'll keep my razor. But if I was new with not much change, I'm Picken the arken in terms of value for money. I used to buy chicom scopes. But not nowIt's $200 less than the SE and $100 more than Diamondback Tactical.
Also might want to edit your title before getting that Arken.
So you have handled and used the new Venom?
No but between it being a naked strike eagle. And what I've saw about the arken then my money is on the arken. Only in this case. It's brand new. Could be killer deal but I'm not seeing it
If I was helping a friend pick a entry scope. It would be a strike eagle or the arken. That 200 in the price dif was cut somewhere more than a few extra up clicks or illumination.. from what I can see
Yes as the elevation is not the only difference. The Venom does not have locking knobs or illumination, as mentioned, either. Features some might not need and want to keep the $200 in their pocket. All about options and what people want and need.
Very true. And like I first said if it gets new shooters shooting that's all that matters. But in your opinion is it a topper in the say 600 and under class. I haven't handled either of the 2 I mentioned. It just already seemed like the s.e and arken was on par. From what reviews I have watched and read.
I hope it is. Looks good, just hope it holds up well.
Once again, it's $200 less at $499 vs $699. $200 can be a lot for some.
I know a lot of folks that got them for sale at $500-600.
EO PRS Membership pricing has them discounted to, liberty optics, and Doug from CLNY will probably all have "demos".
This thing splits the Argos BTR Gen 2 and Helos BTR Gen 2, undercuts the Vortex HST and is priced about the same as the Bushnell Match Pro.
We'd all love a PST G3 or Razor G3, but reality is the further downmarket you go the more potential buyers you have.
We can't all be "not poors", LOL
We'd all love a PST G3 or Razor G3, but reality is the further downmarket you go the more potential buyers you have.
We can't all be "not poors", LOL
And you will see the same with the Venom so they will be less also. Discounted and special pricing is not used to compare pricing.
The discounts on EO means there is only an $80 difference between the two..... as I stated in my first post. It's so damn easy to find discounts on vortex optics you might as well compare pricing that way.
Probably, bigger market protentional with a $500 scope.
Good to know as I need a new hunting scope for an R8, so once it comes out, if your review on it is positive, I'll probably be getting it.
I've had it since February or so and my review on it is definitely very positive. So much so that it is basically staying glued to the Fix exactly as it is configured right now and I am going to get another Fix for scope testing and such.
ILya
Are you and I related? My Professional Success 300Norma/7x64 is stinging for a new lightweight FFP scope... Was hoping this was it, but not to be.
After seeing the venom and transferring my bushnell elite from my 223 to my ar10, I didn’t want to blow a bunch for glass right now, the 5-25 strike eagle is only $60 more with military discount than the venom. I felt it was worth every dollar over the venom.
Snipers Hide, one of the only places where people bitch that there are too many affordable optics and not enough $2,500 + optics.
So true!!!! How dare they make an affordable FFP optic with a good amount of elevation, zero stop and a great reticle and power range! Those bastards!!!!!! LOL
I just did an impromtu livecast and went over the Venom during the first few minutes. Then the conversation switches over, but it starts with the Venom:
ILya
ILya
You wanna talk shit optics? That NF you got where the whole ocular turns with magnification is gay as aids.
This.
I'm tired of the re-hashed Chinese produced scopes. Take away a feature, add a feature, "a whole new scope!"
I'd still buy a match pro based on feature set.
I feel like this thread has been done to death already and will just devolve further, BUT; a new cheap scope with consistent reticle across a brand range is fantastic and it’s the next chapter of scope evolution. This exact model 10 years ago would have been unthinkable at the price it’s offered.
The issue is; it’s an over saturated spot in the market. No doubt economies of scale and where the Venom fits in the price scale means it’s most likely more profitable.
We’ve all probably droned enough about it, but a lightweight (20oz), repeatable, FFP, with good depth of field, an appropriate reticle, quality glass, and a decent magnification range (3-15+) is what’s missing. The Tangent Theta M or H series 3-15x50 is the ultimate; but better would be Minoxs version of the original PH design, or just as good Vortex’s take on the formula.
If optic reps take one thing from this pissing and moaning it’s that this is the niche.
The issue is; it’s an over saturated spot in the market. No doubt economies of scale and where the Venom fits in the price scale means it’s most likely more profitable.
We’ve all probably droned enough about it, but a lightweight (20oz), repeatable, FFP, with good depth of field, an appropriate reticle, quality glass, and a decent magnification range (3-15+) is what’s missing. The Tangent Theta M or H series 3-15x50 is the ultimate; but better would be Minoxs version of the original PH design, or just as good Vortex’s take on the formula.
If optic reps take one thing from this pissing and moaning it’s that this is the niche.
Copy that, all I needed - I’ll head back into my box and crawl threads until something pops up
I think eventually vortex wants to have a scope for every $50 increment.It's $200 less than the SE and $100 more than Diamondback Tactical.
Also might want to edit your title before getting that Arken.
And that is a good thing for consumers as they have options. As mentioned above if this Venom came out 10 years ago it would have been hailed from the highest mountain but now with so many choices people are upset about it. Well just because it isn’t what some want doesn’t mean it’s not what more need. Just be happy there are so many choices now.
I'd like to see it vs a match pro as well. Also what the real world will sell them for.
The real world is selling them for 200 less than the strike eagle
As someone that'll probably never require one, I agree and think it was a pretty sensible move on their part. Kind of parrallels Athlon with the Midas TAC vs Ares BTR. Not everyone needs or wants the locking turrets and illumination. Glass I'm sure is probably somewhat comparable to the SE, maybe just splitting hairs. People scoff at the price difference, but that ~100-200 USD price difference is enough for a decent set of rings. If it ends up priced between the Midas Tac and Argos in Canada, it could be a decent budget friendly option for those that generally only shoot during the day and don't want locking turrets.
Oh man, guess I’m waiting a few more months to figure out my fall setup!
As a casual shooter, I’m interested. My Tikka CTR has a Steiner p4xi 4-16x56 on it and, while good for deer hunting out of a blind, I’d like to have something with a little more reach for those range trips where we bang steel out to 1250. I could also see me acquiring a T1x and sharing this Venom with it and the CTR now that centerfire ammo is in short supply.
Golf gets most of my play money, so I sorta scrounge around for loose change to feed my secondary interest in shooting. This Venom seems like it could do a couple of things for me.
Golf gets most of my play money, so I sorta scrounge around for loose change to feed my secondary interest in shooting. This Venom seems like it could do a couple of things for me.
That’s what I did for my 223, I’ll probably pick up the venom later for a 22
What this scope REALLY needs is Vortex to offer Pro Series rings in 34mm.
At this price point, $59 rings make more sense than $150 rings for MANY buyers.
The Match Pro having a 30mm tube allows me to use cheapo Vortex Tactical rings that work just fine for $40/pair.
At this price point, $59 rings make more sense than $150 rings for MANY buyers.
The Match Pro having a 30mm tube allows me to use cheapo Vortex Tactical rings that work just fine for $40/pair.
Already been brought up but good to see more posts wanting them if this is read by the Vortex staff.
I wanted to buy some for my strike eagle but realized they didn’t make them in 34mm and was disappointed. There are other great options, but they’re nice rings for the price.
I will have new venom 5-25x56 in my hands today and testing this weekend. The new Venom has what the diamondback is missing; a ZERO stop. There’s 85 MOA elevation and windage, 35oz , 56mm obj. Vortex precision matched 34mm 1.1” rings (made by Seekins)
vortex says glass is far better than diamondback, which I am currently using 6-24 diamondback now. And honestly diamondback is a great scope for the money. Just missing zero stop
midway has scope in stock $499. Brownells has the rings $149
will be testing this weekend on my savage elite precision 6.5 CM. And yes savage fixed the ejection issues reported in earlier models of same gun and it shoots awesome sub MOA groups. The 26” barrel bumps my velocity by 38fps compared to same load in a 24” barrel. 2740fps 140 ELD-M
Surprised; walked out to go to work and scope and rings on back porch. No damage from shipping. It also includes a power throw lever. Guess I know what I’ll be doing tonight
vortex says glass is far better than diamondback, which I am currently using 6-24 diamondback now. And honestly diamondback is a great scope for the money. Just missing zero stop
midway has scope in stock $499. Brownells has the rings $149
will be testing this weekend on my savage elite precision 6.5 CM. And yes savage fixed the ejection issues reported in earlier models of same gun and it shoots awesome sub MOA groups. The 26” barrel bumps my velocity by 38fps compared to same load in a 24” barrel. 2740fps 140 ELD-M
Surprised; walked out to go to work and scope and rings on back porch. No damage from shipping. It also includes a power throw lever. Guess I know what I’ll be doing tonight
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