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Movie Theater Sons of Guns - New Discovery Show

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I've seen one episode where they were trying to get a contract with a "general." They let him shoot one round at an RV which subsequently went up into a gigantic fireball, after they "fixed" their "broken" prototype by replacing a standard buffer with an hydraulic one.

No thanks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njlohmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On that last episode they said the optics were "trashed"
They had a Razor HD on that thing to begin with and I'm wondering what was wrong with it. Those Razors are absolute tanks.</div></div>
I'm amazed they actually put a Razor on anything! I figured they would be bragging about their NCstar "game changer" optics... Stuff seems more their speed, er, drag.
 
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no no .. come on ... its Friends don't let friends purchase Counter Sniper...
 
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If it was only about making guns and there was no drama it would be more like How It's Made. Good show, but nowhere near the ratings because it's not as appealing to the ignorant masses. It would cater to a more specific audience.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clay_James</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it was only about making guns and there was no drama it would be more like How It's Made. Good show, but nowhere near the ratings because it's not as appealing to the ignorant masses. It would cater to a more specific audience.</div></div>

I think you could still generate some drama and have competent gunsmiths / gunmakers. Hell look at the drama between M.Larue and some people here...

I also think most of the Sons of Guns drama is fabricated as it's always a "game changer" and a "tight timeline."
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Clay_James said:
I also think most of the Sons of Guns drama is fabricated as it's always a "game changer" and a "tight timeline."</div></div>

Right this is what makes "reality" shows stupid! The fake hurry up and rush or we're all doomed. These little special projects most likely don't make they any kind of money. They money they make is from selling mass market AKs and associated gear. Not one off junk that the DIscovery Channel thinks is interesting. I'm in the medical field and I can tell you that I can't stand watching any "reality" medical shows because there is pretty much no reality in them. I'm sure this is the same way.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhnmdahl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't overanalyze what happens in the show - it's all scripted, and fale. Tons of examples out there, but see http://www.natchezdemocrat.com/2011/07/24/playing-with-guns/ for example.

John </div></div>

This is worth posting here in case the article gets deleted!
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NATCHEZ — Natchez’s Bruce Scarborough’s gun collection might not be as impressive as the TV show “Sons of Guns” would have you believe, but his acting skills might just give him a fallback option if he tires of his dentistry practice.

The show depicted Scarborough as the owner of a Moore .32-caliber Civil War era revolver, and he was bringing his gun down to Red Jacket Firearms in Baton Rouge, the gun shop on which the TV show centers, to see why it would not fire.

When Scarborough came back to pick up his pistol, ironically, the gunsmiths discovered a tooth was jammed inside the gun.

“I know what that is, I’m a dentist and I would recognize a tooth,” Scarborough said when they showed him the tooth on the show. “I have a hard enough time pulling these things out, I can’t imagine trying to get that in there.”

If it all sounded a little difficult to believe, it is.

It turns out that Scarborough does not own an antique pistol, he is not a gun collector, and the only reason he was put on the show is because he knows the right people and could easily get his hands on some teeth, he said.

“A friend of mine (Marshall Hawkins) who’s a former dentist is friends I think, or has some kind of connection, with the producers of the show,” Scarborough said. “They asked (Hawkins) if he’d be interested and he said, ‘No, but I think I know someone that might.’”

“So he called me to see if I would, and it sounded like fun, so I told him I would do it.”

Scarborough said the director of the show called him soon after and just asked him to bring a change of clothes and a tooth. The gun would be provided when he got to Baton Rouge.

When Scarborough got to the shop in March, they asked him if he was the dentist or the “talent.”

“I said, ‘I think I’m both.’ But I think talent was a little liberal use of the word.”

Scarborough said they told him the background of the gun and gave him the back-story that the gun had been in his family for years.

“There was no script, they told me just kind of a generic outline, and the rest was just total ad lib,” he said.

Scarborough said the whole thing was done in an hour and a half.

“We filmed where I bring the gun in, and they yelled, ‘Cut,’ and then said, ‘Let’s do it again.’”

After the first take Scarborough said he became a little more comfortable, and was able to perform better on the second take.

“This time I was a little more animated,” he said. “Then they told me to change clothes and said, “Let’s pick up the gun,’” Scarborough said.

He said he changed clothes and shot the pick-up scene, where they realize the gun was jammed with a tooth, in two takes as well.

Scarborough said he believes that the producers and the writers of the show got the tooth story from hearing that it happened in another gun shop, and they wanted to put it in “Sons of Guns.”

Scarborough said he has not seen the episode yet, and is hesitant about seeing himself on TV.

“I’m just really leery about watching it,” he said. “I watched the first part with me walking in and changed the channel. But I’ve gotten some good feedback from people. They hear a voice that sounds familiar, and they look, and there I am.”

Scarborough said none of his friends caught on to the fact that the gun wasn’t his, and the show was staged.

“They compliment me on having a nice gun and ask, ‘How’d you get the tooth in there?’” he said. “One guy made a comment and said, ‘Man, I don’t want to know much about your extraction technique.’”

“Nobody has said that it’s fake, I’ve had to tell them.”

Scarborough said he’s even had friends from out of town call and say they saw him on the show.

“Some friends of mine from across the country were like, ‘How did you get the tooth inside the gun?’” he said.

“I’m like I hate to tell you there’s no Santa Claus, either. But it’s kind of fun, just to get a little bit of notoriety.”

Scarborough said he does own a few guns, and likes to shoot when he gets a chance, but none of them are antiques. He had never even seen the show before, he said.

“I can’t stand watching reality TV shows. They need to have it in quotation marks, the reality part,” he said.

Scarborough said it was interesting to see how reality shows are made, and the owner of Red Jacket Firearms, Will Hayden, was very nice but he could tell he was under a great deal of stress.

“There’s a lot of people crawling around a very small space,” he said. “It seemed to me like Will (Hayden) is trying to do work, and the director comes in and tells him to put another shirt on, and they give him some scenario he has to riff off of. It’s very tense in there.”

“It was just something different, something fun to do, kind of exciting and very interesting to see how things work in the background. To sit there and kind of observe people in their element was interesting.”

Scarborough said when the producers of the show explained to Hayden what they wanted to do with the gun he was not very happy.

“He blew up, he was afraid he was going to ruin the value of this pistol if they scratched it or unscrewed it,” he said.

Scarborough said that he had talks with Hawkins in the past about having a reality show about dentists.

“I couldn’t image people around all the time saying, ‘Here, act out this scene,’” he said. “It would be a nightmare.”

Scarborough said that his son Steve and daughter Ginnie have friends that watch the show, and they were excited to find out he was going to be on.

“I don’t think I embarrassed them too bad, which is good. That’s the main thing,” he said.

Scarborough said he took six teeth down to Baton Rouge with him to give the producers the option of which to use. He said they were talking about the tooth jamming the firing mechanism, and there was only a small hole under the hammer that they could put the tooth.

“None of them would fit in there, and one guy asked if they could break off the tooth. I said, ‘the owners don’t mind, we break them all the time.’”

He said they used the crown of the tooth so it would be easy to recognize. The tooth came from one of his patients, he said.

Scarborough said he enjoyed his experience on the show, but does not plan on dropping his 21-year dentistry practice to take up acting.
 
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Wonder how many episodes they are planning to drag out the whole, Vince is a jerkoff for leaving meme.

Also like how fast Chris when from clown-shoes to boss. What a joke, this guy can't put an AR together. Ugh.
 
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I know a couple guys who were in an episode. It's a scripted reality show, not a documentary. As Ron Bennington says, "There's two kinds of people in this world... Carnies and rubes". I guess there are many rubes out there who eat this stuff up.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know a couple guys who were in an episode. It's a scripted reality show, not a documentary. As Ron Bennington says, "There's two kinds of people in this world... Carnies and rubes". I guess there are many rubes out there who eat this stuff up. </div></div>

NO! You don't say?


All reality shows are scripted dude. I don't know why its so hard for people to realize that, but the sooner people do the sooner we can move on to real shows again. It's like professional wrestling. Who the hell would want to watch that even if it wasn't fake, but when you find out it is fake, how can you still continue to watch it? Go get a hobby or something.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Johnny Sasaki</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know a couple guys who were in an episode. It's a scripted reality show, not a documentary. As Ron Bennington says, "There's two kinds of people in this world... Carnies and rubes". I guess there are many rubes out there who eat this stuff up. </div></div>

NO! You don't say?


All reality shows are scripted dude. I don't know why its so hard for people to realize that, but the sooner people do the sooner we can move on to real shows again. It's like professional wrestling. Who the hell would want to watch that even if it wasn't fake, but when you find out it is fake, how can you still continue to watch it? Go get a hobby or something. </div></div>

Yep, had a reality show use my restaurant for some scenes. All the players were actors being told what to do and say by the director. Not a thing "real" about it.
 
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Its too bad that Discovery wastes time on a bunch of ideas who build better wooden planes, houses etc. than they do guns.
 
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We all talk about hating this show, but who watched it last night? I only caught some of it
 
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cluster fuck 50 cal accuracy tested at 500 yards by a "proffesional shooter" good or bad?
 
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bad. They didn't actually test its accuracy from what I seen. They just told him to shoot at the truck with "missiles" on it then triggered a remotely detonated gasoline fueled explosion.
 
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I really hate Chris. I mean I really hate him. It has to be irritating to someone like Joe who actually seems pretty cool and appears very knowledgeable about machining when someone like Chris moves up in the ranks because he married the bosses daughter. I did notice they were running a Vortex Razor though which is a beautiful scope.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnP123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HMMM OOrange Country Choppers but with Firearms </div></div>

Difference being as stupid as OCC is as a company I'd still ride one of their bikes.

I don't think I'd ever fire a weapon made by RJF.
 
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I'd be interested to see/shoot that suppressed shotgun... wouldn't be willing to spend 2k on it though.
 
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Sons of Guns has got to be a scripted show otherwise the stupid crap they do would not make sense.
 
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I watched one of those where they made an array of rocket tubes that shoots a bunch of model rockets. It was for an independent security company that escorts freight ships through waters where pirates are commonplace. The weapon's purpose? It looks really scary. What if that doesn't work, eh? Those cardboard rockets will be really useful if the pirates don't fall for the trick.

I don't know why they didn't sell them a couple barrett .50 cals (profit margin has to be better than paying a grown man to build a few hundred model rockets) and tell them to get a good enough shooter to put one into an engine block reliably every time.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njlohmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bad. They didn't actually test its accuracy from what I seen. They just told him to shoot at the truck with "missiles" on it then triggered a remotely detonated gasoline fueled explosion. </div></div>

Thank you for noticing that. There is so much bad TV trickery in that show it's pathetic.

I work in TV and on films and way too often I hear stuff like "the audience won't know the difference" as if the general public is actually retarded.
 
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So having a a firearms co. and a reality show is just like being married. He gets told what to do, how to act and then told what to wear. LMAO that's some funny shit.
 
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Some of the stuff they do is cool to watch, the product and them shooting it. The rigged explosive stuff is crap.

Now how true any of it is, is another story.

American guns looks a little better but you can tell its going more made for tv, scripted now.

They all seem like good people, Stephanie is always really good about talking to people and being down to earth, or has been. It usually gets the better of people at some point.

The problem is when they do this, they sell their souls to tv/hollywood...I can see why Vince bailed, sick of his soul being sucked out of him on account of what gets ratings up.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Johnny Sasaki</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone remember back when the Discovery channel was actually good, and had like wild life and informative shows and such? History channel used to be the same way.

Fucking reality tv shows. </div></div>

SO TRUE! I used to really enjoy the nature shows, hell all my kids like them when they are on know (which is rare) and I prefer they watch that over some Sponge Bob shit. Actully learn something maybe. Reality TV sucks ass!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">H2 is where it's all at now...(History 2)</div></div>

Military channel is pretty cool too...at least I think so
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: b0xcrash</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">H2 is where it's all at now...(History 2)</div></div>

Military channel is pretty cool too...at least I think so
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I like the military channel because they play my WWII docs. Love ww2 docs.