To the guys running the badger 2008

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#1
Hey guys,

I have made a couple of the badger action wrenches for you guys now. I had a few guys order last week so I ended up making a few extra. I have 8 extras right now but I can run more if needed. They are 303 stainless so they wont rust on ya. Also to those that have been waiting I now have my type 07 manufactueres liscence and have resubmitted with money for the class 2 so I will be able to do the couple custom suppressor projects people have wanted within a month I am guessing. Thanks to all that have been helpfull keeping me busy and a roof over my family. I am also going to have about 5 prototypes of the chasis system I have been working on the last year. The first will be for the badger action(short) for now. I will need a vollunteer or two to put them through the paces. They will be set up for the AW mags. I am waiting for some imput on coatings. I had planned on hard anno but after seeing what it will do after alot of sun exposier I am looking at a new coating that is used in the aerospace industry. Here are some pics of the wrenches and a glimpse at the first two guns out of the shop as a leagal card carrying "smith". Thanks again to all that have pushed and pulled to get me going.

Jason Perry


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Re: To the guys running the badger 2008

Here are some Jpegs for you guys to give some imput. This design is allready been prototyped with a 3d modeler. It is programmed and ready to run next week. I will be waiting on cheek pieces and final design tweaks on the bipod. I still havent found a good way to lock out the swivel when the bipod is in the up position? This design will allow a conventional skim bedding if so desired. The entire action sits down in it and doesnt need bedding. It has recesses cut so if a lefty comes around it will work for that also.

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For those of you that are familiar with solid works I "dumbed down" the model. There will be alot of features that are sharp now that will be blended in, in the machine. It will look a bit less obtrusive when finish machined. Thanks for the intrest.

Jason
 
#8
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With a 27" barrel close to #7 contour like you see with a full mag, action but no bolt, solid works says 13.24 lbs. So I am guessing real life.....action, grip, bolt, cheek piece screws,sight rail, the works.... 15-16lbs all up? We will see hopefully next week.
 
#17
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Ok guys. I have had a few problems in the past with USPS but in order to get the wrenches to you for a decent price I have to send them that way. I have had two dissapear last month so all the wrenches I just sent out have tracking with the insurance so we will all know where things are. Again thanks to all. I only have 3 left but can make more if needed. I just got an update from my buddy at the shop and the compressor is on fire AGAIN! So this will put us back a couple days on the stock prototypes. That is the second compressor fire in one month?

Jason Perry
 
#18
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Hey Guys,

I have two action wrenches left for anyone who is looking. I am still waiting on parts to finish the first batch of stocks. I wont put a time frame on it because every time I do something comes up. Hopefully soon.
 
#20
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+1

Deal with confidence.

I dig that stock too, the front end looks awsome. I'm just not that big of a fan of folding stocks. They seem to be lacking some beef on the ass-end. You will have a real world model in a few weeks then I take it?

Im sure you will find someone out there to test it for you.

Is there any way you could machine a 1/2 or 3/4 drive into the ass-end of those action wrenches so you wouldnt need a socket? OR does that seem to take more time/money than a socket cost to begin with?

PS: Jason makes some nice M2008 dedicated pillars also.
 
#22
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OK boys,

I just got the call. Looks like we will be starting on the rest of the parts monday. They will have to be annodized but we should have something next week. THanks to all that are waiting patiently. Oh yeah I still have one wrench not spoken for.

Jason
 
#23
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Just to update everyone...... I feel my "buddy" with the shop is over his head with work since the pig flu and other such familly stuff and he is putting me on the back burner. I have about two thirds of the parts and will more than likely be looking for another shop to work on them. I will be going over my old vendor list and talking to some more shops that I trust around here. This will put me back about two more weeks likely. I am sorry for all the build up.

On another note I have two more action wrenches for the badger/AI out of the last batch that are unspoken for at this point. Let me know if you need an action wrench. Thanks for your patients.

Jason
 
#24
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Ill take an action wrench!

Anyone have a pictured tutorial showing the proper way to clamp your barrel and remove the barrel? This will be my first time removing a barrel. But I need to be able to do it to get the barrel into a lathe and cut some threads for a suppressor mount.
 
#25
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Jason,

If there's enough material in the end of your wrench for a 1/2" square, it should be doable without broaching.

Because the squares on 1/2" drive ratchets have big chamfers all you'd have to do is drill 4 small holes at the corners then a 63/64" hole in the center. You could then finish mill it into a square using 3/32" or 1/8" endmill.

Only issue you might run into would be the length of your wrench being longer than the z height in the machining center. If it's close just program your tool changes off to the side so the toolchanger doesn't hit your work piece.

HTH,
LM
 
#27
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Any news on the chassis? ordering a badger L/A next week and will be looking for something to drop it in.
 
#28
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luvman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jason,

If there's enough material in the end of your wrench for a 1/2" square, it should be doable without broaching.

Because the squares on 1/2" drive ratchets have big chamfers all you'd have to do is drill 4 small holes at the corners then a 63/64" hole in the center. You could then finish mill it into a square using 3/32" or 1/8" endmill.

Only issue you might run into would be the length of your wrench being longer than the z height in the machining center. If it's close just program your tool changes off to the side so the toolchanger doesn't hit your work piece.

HTH,
LM </div></div>

Thanks, I am using a manual. I know it would work but when you go drilling little holes in the corners you loose the integrity of the sides. Probably none of that would affect it but for 80.00 on a manual machine. You get a hex. Easy enough for me to not charge alot. When dealing with a small hole you have to use small tools. On a manual knee mill that means too much wear/breakage. KISS and it stays cheap but fully functional and probably a better looking product over all.

Jason
 
#29
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Walsh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there any way this stock could accomodate an AR buttstock?

Great stock,
P.B.Walsh </div></div>

You could but me no likey AR butt sections. I was trying to make something that fit better and felt like you werent missing something. Also I was trying to do a right hand folder so it would lock the bolt and not be so thick like when it folds to the left and you have a bolt sticking out on the right.

Jason
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smgrendel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any news on the chassis? ordering a badger L/A next week and will be looking for something to drop it in.
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And last but not least. I appologize for the delayed responses. I have been haveing some pretty major familly changes and financial changes. I have put deposits to start production relationships with two shops I used to work with. I have never had to do this before? They said it was because it was from all the non paying customers now. Both of those shops shut their doors with my money. My familly and I are having to move now so I am even more swamped. If I could just afford a CNC I wouldnt have to put my name on someone elses word. I have been being told "next week" For three months now by different people. I am probably going to put it on the back burner for now or even indefinately. Also a problem I have been having working with different smiths on bedding blocks and just taking measurements on different actions when they come in. The outside features are not as consistent as I would like for this type of project. One would still be better off gluing in. This action was WAY over engineered and UNDER thaught out. Too many recoil surfaces. You have to tape around them when bedding in order to get the action out without breaking any bedding. If you are taping you are not getting contact. It might as well not bee there. You cannot build the chasis to tight to avoid bedding because the next one may be 20 thousandths off. They are neet looking and in a glue in situation I think they would work great. That was another thaught behind the way I designed it. Unscrew the front section, fold the stock and you can change barrels with out disturbing the action or scope.

I have been playing on the computer when I cant sleep at night with a remmy version. But for now I cant afford to do anything but draw.

Thanks for all the possitive imput. I look forward to someday working with you guys on an R and D basis.

Jason
 
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