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unemployment appeal any one

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No. But here in Kalifornia you have to have a pretty darn good reason to not get it. Such as theft, vandilism, etc. Were you fired or just or layed off?
 
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i have a friend going through this in washington (he had to get a job to get through it even though it was a normal 3 month layoff)
he is still waiting for a check. I don't know all the intimate details but he is working for less than he needs and his new boss is ready to fire him because the unenjoyment office keeps calling him while he is at work and he can't ignor them.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No. But here in Kalifornia you have to have a pretty darn good reason to not get it. Such as theft, vandilism, etc. Were you fired or just or layed off? </div></div>


i have went threw a broken hip and surgery... iam all good now but because of that the place i work framed me to fire me ( long story ) so i got denied unemployment and appealed it...

i have alot of evadance showing iam not what they said on paper plus some emails from my boss stating he didnt agree with what they did. and iam hoping thats enough to win other wise bye bye truck and 4 wheeler
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But here in Kalifornia you have to have a pretty darn good reason to not get it. Such as theft, vandilism, etc.</div></div>

A few years ago a friend caught his paralegal stealing from his company (about $200,000 over a two year period). She was arrested charged, made bail and applied for unemployment. When he was contacted he requested denial. The agency asked if he had a written policy against stealing.
 
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I got laid off and a year after the company I was working for claimed I was fired. They had to prove it. so I won if that is what you want to call it. I am still waiting to get those bastards out.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXX</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got laid off and a year after the company I was working for claimed I was fired. They had to prove it. so I won if that is what you want to call it. I am still waiting to get those bastards out. </div></div>

did you go and visit the uc ref like a court date ? or did they call you
 
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Depends where you are at, here in the Connecticut/Mass area is a joke. Fired an employee a few months back for stealing and he still got to collect. Another one just recently I fired for not showing up for 3 days, she will probably get it too. But it definitely depends where you are and what kind of a jackass is playing referee, and if he/she got laid the night before.
 
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Another note, pretty much everywhere as long as you were not deliberately doing a bad job and you were "doing your best" you will get it
 
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here in iowa you have to kiss ass or be another race to get unemployment
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: E3C3H3O3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another note, pretty much everywhere as long as you were not deliberately doing a bad job and you were "doing your best" you will get it </div></div>

well i was doing my best, and i really hope that i get it
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pat4668</div><div class="ubbcode-body">here in iowa you have to kiss ass or be another race to get unemployment </div></div>

The same bunch must be running the group over here in IL.
 
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After I got out of the army in 1969 I applied for unemployment, They said ok, come back next friday for my check. When I went for the check they asked silly questions like was I looking for a job, and where.

I told them Hell NO, if I wanted a job I'd go get one, I added I wanted to goof off for the summer.

Needless to say I didnt get unemployment, I had to go to work, dern suckers.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After I got out of the army in 1969 I applied for unemployment, They said ok, come back next friday for my check. When I went for the check they asked silly questions like was I looking for a job, and where.

I told them Hell NO, if I wanted a job I'd go get one, I added I wanted to goof off for the summer.

Needless to say I didnt get unemployment, I had to go to work, dern suckers. </div></div>


hahahah thats funny shit, dout i will tell them that but ya thats funny
 
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You should probably tell us why you were denied and what you told them in the first place. If you told them the right thing, you'd be getting unemployment right now.
 
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The place where I work has turnover like you wouldn't believe. They fire at least 2-3 people every week. A lot of people just can't do it, and the others get fired because there is a team of managers that have a hard on for their power trip, and fire folks for next to no reason. In Kansas the company can fight the unemployment, however the office knows the company by heart, and they let them fight it for a week or two, and then start making them pay. I've heard that the longest they can fight it is 2 months, and then they have to pay, including back pay, however most folks can't last 2 months. We had a guy not too long ago that verbally assaulted most of the managment team when they kept threatening him with this and that, then after they fired him, they wouldn't let him leave the room with his work badge. The guy that was blocking his way was thrown across the room into, and partially through a wall. They let him leave with his badge. He, even though he assaulted a manager still got his unemployment, and the company wasn't allowed to fight it. His reason, "hostile workplace".

From what I have found out, in Kansas, Hostile workplace is the golden ticket of unemployment. Get a manager to raise his voice, and you have a golden ticket for unemployment.

I would like to leave the company and find another job, however I just can't seem to bring myself to be that significant of a turd to get fired, and the whole management team (except for the POS op manager) likes me. They also pay too much to just leave, finding another job that pays as much around here is VERY difficult.

Branden
 
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Branden, you, like I was, are a captive of the "Golden Handcuffs." For ten years, I worked in a terrible environment but stayed because of excellent benefits and salary. I, too, was one of the "favored" ones but when I finally spoke up against unfair policies and treatment of others, I promptly fell into "disfavor", was accused of creating a hostile environment, and escorted out of the company by security and deputies.

When I filed for unemployment compensation, it was approved because the company "could not provide sufficient cause for termination." They always fought unemployment claims before but chose not to in my case.

It took me a year to get back solidly on my feet but was well worth it. I am far healthier and happier now that the Golden Cuffs are off. I found that I could live with much less if need be. I will never tolerate those work conditions again. Life is too short.
 
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well i worked as an aero/space machinist and i found a bad part in the day shift guys parts so i alerted my supervisor, he tagged the part and the next day the day shift big boss called me in and said i intermingled the part with the day shift guys, so he fired me. the tags go on the parts with a little twist tie wire, i thing he just took the bad part off and put the tag on one of my parts and then said i did it and fired me.

i have received a few write ups for poor quality work, but again its a situation where my parts and they day guys parts go into inspection, inspection mixes the parts during inspecion finds a bad one, who made it they dont know, so we both get a poor quality write up, how they can repremand 2 people and not know who did it is beyond me but other then that i have not had a problem with any one i to was one of the "choosen" ones


and i didnt get to tel unemployment my reaons cause i filed over the net they gave me a list of reasons why i didnt get it
 
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I once got into an argument with a boss. And it was either bust him in the head or quit. So I quit. I applied for unemployment and received a few weeks of benefits before the company complained and my unemployment was denied, and they asked for the three wees of money back. I went to an arbitrator and lost. So I did a little research on the arbitrator. I turned out that he was the lawyer for a sister store in a different town. Talk about conflict in interest!! I took that to another arbitrator and got my unemployment, and the company got a fine for not disclosing the conflict in interest. The moral is to pay attention to every detail. Take names, and do your research. You would be surprised how tight knit some of those guys are. Tom.
 
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thanks for the heads up, ill be comming down to west virginia vary soon btw
 
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well i got my date to visit the uc ref... its in 2 weeks.

i need ever little shread of advice and prayer i can get between now and then
 
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nobody denied unemployment but, since I work for AT&T and all the new healthcare is coming into existence, MANY MANY more will be laid off and, since I'm a technical person and considered management, we're the first to go. All are being replaced with overseas workers.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well i got my date to visit the uc ref... its in 2 weeks.

i need ever little shread of advice and prayer i can get between now and then </div></div>

I just got laid off and the company was trying to say that I quit when I clearly didn't. I took a voice recorder (legal in my state) to the last meeting and now have everything everybody said on tape including the parts where they are saying they are letting me go with good standing and they would hire me back in the future and what my severance package consists of (not much). I also asked a lot of clarifying questions because they wouldn't use the word "lay off". So I have it on tape where they say we're not laying you off or firing you but its like your quitting even though we letting you go. Which is called "employer fraud" in my state. So if my unemployment gets denied I have a massive trump card. I would suggest the same for anyone about to go through this, first look at your state laws and then make sure you cover your own ass.
 
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ya its unreal..... thanks for all the kind words iam down to about 2 weeks away and trying to squair every thing up befor hand
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXX</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got laid off and a year after the company I was working for claimed I was fired. They had to prove it. so I won if that is what you want to call it. I am still waiting to get those bastards out. </div></div>

did you go and visit the uc ref like a court date ? or did they call you </div></div>

one time they called and another I went in. Sorry for the delay
 
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I got put on a lay off list once because I was dealing with my daughters mother - who is manic depressive - and I said "They should just shoot all of the manic depressive people".

MY boss, standing there, was manic depressive.
But she got laid off too - managers didn't know till the day of it, we at least knew a week ahead of time.

But it was also because the company kept telling me to tell the customers the bugs would be fixed in the next release. When I asked what the next planned release was they said "NEVER" - the product is going bye-bye.

So I kept telling my customers to call their sales reps to get the patches to fix it - and one of them (VP of a top 100 company) wrote in that he should not have to do this - boy did I almost get fired ON THE SPOT.
His second paragraph praised the excellent worik I did and agreed to sign a 3 mil contract.....so my kudo and near-firing were tore up and put in the trash.


Kudo's for 1 mil + are generally a 5k to 10k check too
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But we got a golden umbrella - full paycheck for 6 months WHILE YOU get unemployment.

Those days are gone.
 
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well i went threw my appeal, i had a post about it but the thread was locked
 
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Have you done anything since your appeal to earn money to pay your bills? Mow grass, flip burgers, pick up cans, etc. etc. Maybe you could race your bad ass 4 wheeler for money!
 
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You should contact the FAA, the tracking of parts from start to finish is required by CFR's, not knowing who made the reject parts is poor accountability, and thus not compliant/airworthy.
 
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i have been making gun racks to get the bills paied.. and trying to sell some 308 ammo

thanks for the heads up cobra i might just do that
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well i went threw my appeal, i had a post about it but the thread was locked </div></div>

So post it here. I'd like to know how it went as I'm assuming I'm going to have to go through it too.
 
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I did, and I won. In Texas. I appealed twice, all the way to the commission, who saw it my way.
 
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Black ump- I tried to email you a link regarding UPS employment when your other thread was locked. It was sent back via bad email address.

Essentially it was an article about how 30% of UPS drivers fail training and the annual starting salary is $74K.

Thought it was something to consider. I never personally thought that a UPS driver would start out so well paid.

regards and good luck.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cavscout1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Essentially it was an article about how 30% of UPS drivers fail training and the annual starting salary is $74K.
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Holy crap, why have I been in college getting 2 degrees and heading to law school in the fall when I could have been driving around in brown shorts this whole time?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: netranger6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did, and I won. In Texas. I appealed twice, all the way to the commission, who saw it my way. </div></div>


right on...... thats awsome

cavscout.... iam going to look into my email address being messed up, i did how ever see it on the nightly news about them making so much and i have been looking into that
 
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a little topical humor... take it with a grain of salt- I'm not belittling your situation.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shot In The Dark</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cavscout1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Essentially it was an article about how 30% of UPS drivers fail training and the annual starting salary is $74K.
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Holy crap, why have I been in college getting 2 degrees and heading to law school in the fall when I could have been driving around in brown shorts this whole time? </div></div>

Because UPS hires/promotes drivers from within the company. you can't usually get hired as a driver. you have to work a store or warehouse first. and THOSE guys don't make shit.
 
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Yeap I got denied once. The weenie brain at the unemployment office decided he would stick up for the company who wasn't even trying to deny my claim. It was all recorded. I went to his bosses and after they listened to the recording I got my money.
 
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Each state has an Unemployment Commission - do your online homework first and see what it takes to be "legally" fired, and find out if your state is an "at will" state. I am an employer in Texas, and have fired my share of people; out of several hearings I lost only one case and that was BS, they said I hired her for a job she wasn't capable of and that wasn't her fault. I have subsequently found that as an employer the best way to guarantee a sound case is to write up "and counsel" the employee three times over the same thing - on incident #4 they go, and you have a solid case. In most cases being late, failure to follow time-card rules are the easiest ways to get rid of someone. Sometimes its really hard when an employee does something very blatant or overt insubordination to not want to fire them on the spot, but there is no way that I am going to give someone who screws up an opportunity at a good job 6 months at home on my dime. Its also important to have a Policy and Procedure manual in place that covers things like theft, felonies etc. You mentioned you were reprimanded before - but didn't go into details about what; before you go to your hearing I suggest you think real hard about what you have been reprimanded for in the past - both verbally and written; again if you have been reprimanded about the same thing 3 times they probably have a good chance of winning.