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Universal Background checks, Democrat style.

Article sounds like Miller wants all white men to pay reparations to all marginalized people, throw themselves in the 1800's muddy road (let the marginalized stomp over them to the other side of the road), and stroke the marginalized to make them feel better about themselves (even if they recognizably are mentally ill, homeless, and fucked up), and then, after reparation, apology, stroking, and sucking up, become as fucked up as "the marginalized" fuckup...
just sayin... it's ok to be them, but it's not ok to be me..... fuck all that...

Keep the f'g Heisman trophy...
Literally killing the messenger that gave them all the rights they currently enjoy.
Amazing they haven't any ill will towards the cultures that buy and sell women yesterday and today...

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or you can just vote republicans and ensure nothing gets done because they are cowards and will never do anything to upset the people that hate them most.

When we have a democrat in the White House, I vote for republicans in congress... and when we have a Republican in the White House, I vote for democrats in congress.

Doing so ensures that nothing gets done that both parties don't agree to. Handing both the Congress and the White House to a one party is a recipe for bad things.

And when possible, I always vote for the new guy so we don't have career criminals controlling the country. In our current state of radicalized political affairs, I think its best to just put the brakes on before we crash into something.
 
Handing both the Congress and the White House to a one party is a recipe for bad things.
Show me one bad thing the Republicans did in the last 2 years. They have been in total control for 2 years and best I can personally tell, something bad would at least be SOMETHING. They have sat on their asses and have 0 and I mean 0 to show for it.

Did not fully repeal Obama-care, to afraid of those that hate them, did not pass HPA to afraid of those that hate them. did not pass national carry reciprocity, to afraid of those that hate them.
Sure as fuck not afraid enough of those that elected them.
 
I still don’t see anyone willing to fire the first shot....myself included here.

What’s really sad, is the fact that no one would come to anyone else’s aide to help him defend his rights.

But we would all bitch on the forums tho.
DING DING DING, we have a winner. Some how the liberals feel more desperate and that they have less to loose than us. As they are more willing to stand up than us.
Why do you think that is? Why do we have such restraint? While we do like to bitch about things the Liberals do, very few are willing to get in their face. Tolerance may be our down fall.
 
I have a very low opinion of politicians. We could probably fix most problems if we just did the following:
1) Require anyone running for public office higher than a local sheriff to hold a PhD
2) Outlaw all lobbying
3) Limit all campaign contributions to 5% of whatever is considered the median national income level
4) Outlaw all corporate involvement in government
5) Criminalize any attempt (introduction of legislation) to do a run-around of the US Constitution.

I have a long list but those are the top five. Maybe someone can come up with five that are better..
Have you ever met someone other than a Medical Doctor with a PhD? fuck that as a requirement. All the PhD's I know are over educated retards that can't tie their shoes without written instructions. Why would you allow yourself to be ruled by a "higher class".
I would put a farmer with 30 years experience up against almost any PhD as far as over all knowledge. I know quite a few with Masters degrees also, and I will give you they might be experts in their field. But outside that area of specialty they are just plain fucking stupid.
 
Have you ever met someone other than a Medical Doctor with a PhD? fuck that as a requirement. All the PhD's I know are over educated retards that can't tie their shoes without written instructions. Why would you allow yourself to be ruled by a "higher class".
I would put a farmer with 30 years experience up against almost any PhD as far as over all knowledge. I know quite a few with Masters degrees also, and I will give you they might be experts in their field. But outside that area of specialty they are just plain fucking stupid.

EXACTLY!

To hell with all these over educated Ivy League Elitists who spent their whole lives in Communist institutions smelling their own farts.
 
It is what it is. At the very least, it's some sort of slim assurance to the state that the person taking temporary possession of the weapon has gone through a background check. However, the state doesn't bar immediate and direct permanent conveyance of firearms from spouse to spouse, or parent/grandparent to child/grandchild, notwithstanding prohibited status.

The status quo, Max, is not as I would have it. But I'm also not entirely in favor of rational anarchy, either. I'd like to see some specific rollbacks in scope and depth of control, but not to the point where some loose cannon doofus gets to strut around heeled, 2A or no 2A. The fact of the matter is that some people just don't pack the fuckin' gear to be trusted with a firearm, concealed or not. And that doesn't make me a commie.
No one is free when anyone is oppressed.. if I had to tolerate an Iraq police force being armed around me and behind my back, the least you can do is tolerate “bubba” being armed. Funny, I can’t find were in the 2nd adm. it mentions a licence?? I can find were it gives bubba the rights of innocent till proven guilty though. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..
 
Rolling back environmental protections was a big one.

Our last great president was Bush 1 and we've been sliding down hill ever since.

Better buy ammo and guns now while prices are low. People are very upset at Trump and the republicans are going to pay for it in the next election, and the first thing the dem's are going to do is to go after the big black scary rifles and probably anything else with more power than a bb gun.

I think the biggest mistake the republicans have made was not going after Trump. They protected their own and showed the country that their own party's political health was a higher priority than what's best for the country. They should have investigated the living heck out of him and showed us all that when one of their own steps out of line, they'll do the right thing. That would have gained my confidence and I think it would have gained the confidence in a lot of others as well.

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statement 1: I believe Trump did that all on his own. Executive orders and such. Not a big fan of that, but it is fine the rest of the world can get ahead of us in that technology (sarcasm)

2: Bush 1 a great president, He wasn't smart enough to grasp that "No new taxes" was a throwing of the gauntlet and not a promise at all. Who in the hell in their right mind would say something like that when the opposition holds the house and senate. Yea he was real bright. That one phrase cost him a 2nd term.

3: Dems already have big plans to attack guns as soon as the oaths are stepped on.

4: republicans are still in shell shock over trump winning. more so than the democrats. I don't understand what all the attention on trump is from. Sure he is mildly retarded. But damn it is 24/7 365 Trump, Trump, Trump. I never heard once when Obama was scheduled to take a shit, but by God Trump blows his nose and we have to hear about it. Anyone ever think that the Media has a hard on for Trump so they shove shit down our throats about him that would not even making on the cutting room floor it he was someone else. And before anyone forgets old Bill fucking Clinton sat down under oath, asked for and then argued over the definition of the word "is". And the Media fucking loved that cock sucker. The difference between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump is very little.
 
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No one is free when anyone is oppressed.. if I had to tolerate an Iraq police force being armed around me and behind my back, the least you can do is tolerate “bubba” being armed. Funny, I can’t find were in the 2nd adm. it mentions a licence?? I can find were it gives bubba the rights of innocent till proven guilty though. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..

You're putting words of class bias in my mouth. If your "Bubba" (your word, not mine) did felony time, or if a group of mental health professionals judged her or him to be a danger to him/her/itself and others, HE/SHE/IT (I'm havin' fun with this now.) DOESN'T FUCKING PACK THE GEAR. I get the impression that you think that I'm some sort of upper crust urbanized snot-nose. I was born in a rural county seat smack-dab in the middle of this state, with a population of 10,000 if it's lucky. Whatever Maoist values I've been exposed to didn't stick, education or not. Tell me, do you want to empty out the state hospitals and prisons and arm the insane and the criminal predators? Aren't they oppressed by your measure, too? And with your apparent issues, do you want to round up the educated and brainwash them? That's right out of Mao's little red playbook. Make sure that you don't become that which you say you despise.
 
Look at all them MacBooks..................Which one is the Sammich' maker ?

No sammich maker here right now. She went to bed.

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I have no request to loan rifles. I’m not friends with folks who don’t have thier own. Just not my kind of folks.
you sound lonely
You're putting words of class bias in my mouth. If your "Bubba" (your word, not mine) did felony time, or if a group of mental health professionals judged her or him to be a danger to him/her/itself and others, HE/SHE/IT (I'm havin' fun with this now.) DOESN'T FUCKING PACK THE GEAR. I get the impression that you think that I'm some sort of upper crust urbanized snot-nose. I was born in a rural county seat smack-dab in the middle of this state, with a population of 10,000 if it's lucky. Whatever Maoist values I've been exposed to didn't stick, education or not. Tell me, do you want to empty out the state hospitals and prisons and arm the insane and the criminal predators? Aren't they oppressed by your measure, too? And with your apparent issues, do you want to round up the educated and brainwash them? That's right out of Mao's little red playbook. Make sure that you don't become that which you say you despise.
I’ve met plenty bubbas that still have a legal right but shouldn’t.. It’s their right until they loose it. I’m not interested in brainwashing anyone. Sick of hearing comments from brainwashed people though. If you want to put enough money on the table though I guarantee I can find a “mental health professional” that will say your unfit to own or a Crooked prosecutor who will slap a felony or 3 on you. I can also guarantee you haven’t packed as much gear as many places as I have. I never said bubba was a felon. Now who is putting words in people’s mouths. And for the record I don’t want felons armed yet,, but the road we are going down will have us all felons eventually if “we” are as patriotic as our words are. You need to realize we need each other.. because WHEN it starts you will need people like me a lot more than I will need people like me. Go a month without tv than talk to me about brainwashing ok.. and when the shit hits the fan I will arm anyone I can. If someone comes to your aid while your being stripped of your rights are you gonna id check them? Are you gonna refuse their help if they don’t have a chl?
 
Or those more recently in NY when they changed the rules and said... we see you have that tube fed 50 year old .22 rifle on our records.... well it holds more than 5 rounds so turn it in or off to jail with you.
Please cite 1 example of this happening. I live in NY. The only people ever arrested under SAFE Act statutes are always charged under other criminal statutes as well. There are no black SUVs at our outdoor ranges snagging anyone for more than 10rd magazines or scary black rifles with thingys folding. And no one has had their weapons taken from them because "they changed the rules..." Internet gossip.
 
So many on here seem to understand what is going on here. A few though, apparently think it’s ok for them to take rights from our Combat Vets with ptsd, our paranoid that knows what becomes of paperwork, our stubborn constitutionalist that cling to assault weapons and 10 round magazines, our preppers that have more than 25# of gunpowder, our anticonformists, our patriots, the list grows longer. You think your ok because your not on the top. Make no mistake, your on the list though. They can’t take us all so they divide us. A few talk of mental issues yet none talk of prescription drugs. That key ingredient has been present in most of our mass shootings and even our first mass school shooting. We must hang together or we will certainly hang separately. We cannot allow anyone to be disarmed. We should be protesting or dare I say rioting over red flag states yet we sit here and bicker with each other on forums. We must not let all the blood shed for America be in vain.
 
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I know quite a few of them actually. I've worked closely with scientists from PPG Industries and have a few friends with PhD's in various fields.

In fact, I've never met a doctor with a PhD in all my years (and I'm getting freaking old, bad knee, high blood pressure, etc) and I'd be very surprised if you have.. the first question I'd ask is "Where the heck did you go where you met a medical doctor with a PhD and why did you go there?"

Medical doctors do not generally hold "doctorate" degrees.. They hold lowly M.D degrees and usually an additional bachelors degree in something medically related. Not even remotely close to someone with a Ph.D.

To get a Ph.D, you must add something new to the arena of human knowledge, not just memorize and copy what others have already figured out. I have a 4 year degree and all I ever did was memorize the hard work of others. Every Ph.D you have ever met has figured out something that humanity didn't know previously to their research and study. It is a distinction awarded to only the hardest working and most intelligent individuals among us.

Most people who have achieved such status are not "a higher class".. They are regular hard working people just like you and me, they usually make a similar amount of money to folks in the upper middle class, and they have all the same kinds of problems as the rest of us.

Well, anyhow, I should say that at least the ones I know.. One of my poker buddies has a Ph.D in chemistry and unless he leaves my home and puts on a cape and a mask when I'm not looking, so far as I can tell, he's just another dude who drinks my beer and likes to restore old boats. Judging from his car and home, I'd guess he makes around $120k/year. Not exactly a higher class in my opinion.

Brian May, the co-founder of the rock band Queen, holds a Ph.D in astrophysics. Not sure if I consider him a higher class, but I'm guessing he's filthy rich.

I want the people who run our government to have higher educations.. It takes intelligence to make good choices and public policy and a Ph.D shows they have that intelligence and are willing to work hard. Those with science degrees should be in charge of things that involve science, those with finance degrees should be in charge of things that involve the economy.. etc etc.
Putting a lawyer in charge or some yak with a 4 year degree in underwater basket weaving (IE: Business Management) is part of what's getting us in trouble. (at least so far as I can tell, but I'm just a bloke with a 4 year degree who's copied what others have already figured out)

id rather have someone who has successfully ran a business running the country. Those over educated morons who have never been in the real world should not be in control of anything.
 
Please cite 1 example of this happening. I live in NY. The only people ever arrested under SAFE Act statutes are always charged under other criminal statutes as well. There are no black SUVs at our outdoor ranges snagging anyone for more than 10rd magazines or scary black rifles with thingys folding. And no one has had their weapons taken from them because "they changed the rules..." Internet gossip.
Well they are getting charged and convicted left and right. Go shoot at a public range with a standard mag and tell me what happens. These stories took about a minute to find. I'm sure I could find a ton more.
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you sound lonely

I’ve met plenty bubbas that still have a legal right but shouldn’t.. It’s their right until they loose it. I’m not interested in brainwashing anyone. Sick of hearing comments from brainwashed people though. If you want to put enough money on the table though I guarantee I can find a “mental health professional” that will say your unfit to own or a Crooked prosecutor who will slap a felony or 3 on you. I can also guarantee you haven’t packed as much gear as many places as I have. I never said bubba was a felon. Now who is putting words in people’s mouths. And for the record I don’t want felons armed yet,, but the road we are going down will have us all felons eventually if “we” are as patriotic as our words are. You need to realize we need each other.. because WHEN it starts you will need people like me a lot more than I will need people like me. Go a month without tv than talk to me about brainwashing ok.. and when the shit hits the fan I will arm anyone I can. If someone comes to your aid while your being stripped of your rights are you gonna id check them? Are you gonna refuse their help if they don’t have a chl?

Not lonely at all. I have countless friends spread all over the world. All well armed.
 
Please cite 1 example of this happening. I live in NY. The only people ever arrested under SAFE Act statutes are always charged under other criminal statutes as well. There are no black SUVs at our outdoor ranges snagging anyone for more than 10rd magazines or scary black rifles with thingys folding. And no one has had their weapons taken from them because "they changed the rules..." Internet gossip.

You either have lived under a rock, can't use google, or really have your head in the sand.

Quick check of the top stories that come up for a google search:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...ns-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/
 
You either have lived under a rock, can't use google, or really have your head in the sand.

Quick check of the top stories that come up for a google search:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...ns-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/
That there be New York City's doing in a post SAFE Act world from 5yr ago. In NYC you have to register everything down to your pump and bolt guns. Hence how they knew where to send notices.

@deersniper Raymond Hansen's case is a weird one. People I know in the 2A community have met with him and asked him what he was doing to try and build a defense and his answers satisfied no one. His is also unfortunate because if he hadn't brought the dog in they wouldnt have searched his room. AFAIK at Jake's, dogs are persona non grata. So not really breaking a law per se, but if you're gonna "ride dirty" you probably shouldn't be breaking the rules of the establishment.

The other you listed is an example of one I gave you, the guy was pulled over and arrested for DUI and had 3 loaded 17rd Glock Magazines in his car. Yet. Had no pistol on him. There's just multiple kinds of stupid there. Long before the SAFE Act it's been a bad idea to keep loaded anything NOT on your person in your car.

I won't name places on a public forum, but there are a few that turn their heads or won't ask about LEO credentials if certain types of rifles or magazines show up. Trust me guys, the NY gun community follows these cases like blood hounds tracking a duck.
 
Please cite 1 example of this happening. I live in NY. The only people ever arrested under SAFE Act statutes are always charged under other criminal statutes as well. There are no black SUVs at our outdoor ranges snagging anyone for more than 10rd magazines or scary black rifles with thingys folding. And no one has had their weapons taken from them because "they changed the rules..." Internet gossip.


Stupidist post of the day and the day just started.......
 
Not lonely at all. I have countless friends spread all over the world. All well armed.
I tried to delete that comment and didn’t mean to send it. With just that part left it sounds rude. I’m sorry. I was going to make a joke out of it and now I just look like a ass. As mark twain said, better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 
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Well they are getting charged and convicted left and right. Go shoot at a public range with a standard mag and tell me what happens. These stories took about a minute to find. I'm sure I could find a ton more.
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This safe act bullshit had nationwide implications. After NY passed it, Bloomberg and crew set their sights on Colorado. I was there. The magban that was subquently passed was basically cut & pasted from the safe act. The same folks and same money paid for it.

Magpul fought it tooth and nail and then left the state when it was passed. I watched their tearfull employees give testimony about losing their jobs. The Democrats wrote in an exemption for Magpul but they stood strong for all of us.....

To purport that these laws will effect only criminals is either nieve or outright dishonest. The National Transportation Act was a result of states like NY enforcing draconian gunlaws against out of state traveling hunters.

It’s hard enough to see Marxist PHD dullards fall for this stuff but when it is a gun owner it defies the imagination. How can folks have there head so far up thier own ass is beyond me.....
 
I tried to delete that comment and didn’t mean to send it. With just that part left it sounds rude. I’m sorry. I was going to make a joke out of it and now I just look like a ass. As mark twain said, better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

No problem at all. I took no offense. Just replied. Have a great day.