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Rifle Scopes USO sn9

ds

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Feb 17, 2005
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Thought I would share some thoughts on USO sn9’s as not much is normally written about that model, in particular the 10-42x80.
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First I like USO optics, great scopes and great people. The scopes work better for me than S&B, Swaro, Nightforce, Loopy , Khales etc…….they are the ones I can remember having anyway.

Last winter I did some testing at dusk between the sn9 scopes and a 5-25x58 T Pal, sn3 3.8-22x44 and just for fun a sn4. The testing was not very scientific, just my perceptions gained over a few weeks of observation near dark at a couple of targets about 370m away.

Conclusions from it were I guess to be expected, the 80mm sn9’s were easily the best performers, the objective diameter allows the use of more magnification without loosing the image and or extra shooting time. The other scopes a 58mm TPal and 44mm sn3 were all so similar it was hard to justify the 58mm objective over the 44mm – you did have to reduce the magnification a little on the 44mm model to get the same image quality as the 58mm, true but I was surprised by how little.

Back to the sn9’s, I guess it is really seen as a long range optic with loads of elevation however I have been using mine for short range. With 42x no spotting scope is required, this is important for my particular circumstance where shots are not spotted,and time limits are usually 2mins for 5 rounds. I found in the past that if trying to use a spotting scope it is very easy to change body position and spread shots.

Out to 500m 338 and 308 holes have been easier to spot than with my Optolyth TBS 100 spotting scope. So the sn9 does double duty as a spotting scope – right where you want it in front of your eye. This is something I tried before with a 42x NXS but it did not work for me. Resolution is on a whole different planet. One of my test objects is a screw thread at 124m, a decent scope can resolve the sides of the threads, an excellent scope sn9 can resolve the whole thread and have enough resolution to distinguish lands from groves on the thread around the diameter. One thing which may help the excellent resolution on the sn9 is the lack of internal crap within the scope and also the fact that you are always looking through the optical centre which are a couple of benefits of the external adjustment system.

Mounting and picatinny rails – in short get the strongest, picatinny rail you can with the least flex in it, ideally the front ball ring mount on the sn9 should be mounted above the receiver on the picatinny rail – most solid position without flex, this is just possible on an AI 338 (see pic above) and just slightly forward on a 308 AI. On bigger stuff like a EDM Arms 338 there will be plenty of room.

I have only used the scope in one international competition so far but results were very promising .

The 80mm objective allows focus down to 50 yards at full magnification………so I’ve put one on my Sako 22LR and a couple of others as well.
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Re: USO sn9

Good write up. Indeed, the SN9 is a beast, but a remarkable one. I just want to add one caveat on mounting: because it's externally adjustable, the rings are part of the scope. Most rings have one or two bars that drop into the base by fitting between the "teeth" on the rail. On the 3.8-22x58mm model I had the rings were two bars on the front and one bar on the rear.

*Just make sure your base supports the same spec as the scope.*

My Windrunner's base was somehow different, so the "teeth" were too wide, allowing the single bar rear ring to mount just fine, but the dual bar front ring to not mount at all. <span style="font-weight: bold">Again, it wasn't the SN9 that was out of spec - it was the base, as I double-checked it by mounting it on a few other weapons.</span>
 
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I am curious about the positioning of the rings/mounts. I know that the classic target scopes like the Unertl or lyman were made to float inside the rings, and that this would allow the user to install the bases on the rifle at a distance that would corespond to the desired adjustment in MOA at the knobs. Is the SN9 like this or are the rings in a fixed position on the scope tube?
 
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Hi Dogtown,

bases are really the key to these scopes - my scopes also have two front bars and one rear. I have mounted them fine to standard picatinny spec rails from Brugger & Thomet and USO, but the B&T rail is a pos - way too much flex in the rail - thin box sectioned alloy.

As it happens I have just sold the 338 AI and am waiting for my AW50 - hope to mount the scope direct to the integral picatinny rail in the receiver on that.
 
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wilshire 1412,

The front ball joint ring is in a fixed position but the rear mount with the turrets can slide along the tube, so depending on where you position it you can set different adjustment values - I think in theory from about 1/20 moa to 1 moa range is possible per click.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wilshire 1412,

The front ball joint ring is in a fixed position but the rear mount with the turrets can slide along the tube, so depending on where you position it you can set different adjustment values - I think in theory from about 1/20 moa to 1 moa range is possible per click. </div></div>

Thanks, that answers my question perfectly.
 
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ds,

Nice review thanks.

I have an AW-50 that I have been shooting in matches here in the USA…I also have an SN-9 on order it should arrive anytime. You might want to contact USO about the mount for the SN-9 on the AW-50.

I think the rail on the AW-50 might not go forward enough to work with the SN-9. USO has access to my AW-50 and they are ensuring there will be no mounting issues for me (probably will involve a custom rail….you got to like USO). I went with the Long Eye relief eyepiece so the scope needs to be a little father forward than one without. If you want a mount from them it would probably be more convenient for them to make an extra for you now while they are making mine….

I have shot with SN-3s, Leupold’s and Night Forces on this rifle and with a full field of view I get gently tapped in the shooting glasses fairly frequently...in some cases I have had to live with some vignetting so I do not end up with scope eye. I wonder if since the AW-50 has a shock absorber in the stock if it moves a little more than other 50BMGs under recoil.

Have fun with your rifle!
 
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Re: USO sn9

DS How long a piccatinny rail do you need to mount this scope ? Will a Lawton Rail for the Lawton 8000 long action be long enough ?

And will the 10-42x80 be still able to get a zero at 100 yards with a 40moa rail (I understand it has significantly less adjustment than its 58mm brother)

Kind regards pc3