WalMart Coming to NYC

[hugo121175]

I've heard both argument: "We Need Jobs" and "It will kill our local economy and locally owned shops".

After getting out of the military I had moved with my wife, closer to her parents in Western Maryland. There they had a regular old style Walmart, a booming mall, and plenty of local shops to shop in and get what you needed. Then something changed. WalMart bought the mall, and built a Super WalMart, attaching it to the local mall. Shortly after the mall started to change. One by one the store started closing. It is now 10 years later, and there is nothing in this mall. Ya, you have some stores like PC Penny, Sears, EB Games, Kay Jewellers, and the food court. Other than that, if a new store is to open it only stays until the lease is up and then they also close. Even the store outside of the malls have been hit every hard. The small city that homes this Super WalMart has been full of empty store front for over eight years. I wish I could say it was due to the economy that we are currently in, but this was happening, like watching domminos fall, since the opening of the Super WalMart.

So, for however many job this may create, how many job will be lost over a period of time?


Hugo

 

[shankster..]

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That was Walmart's plan for their competition from the beginning. They start with a small non-threatening store, get people used to going to it, then "BAM" a Superstore right near the local variety stores.

Next thing you know, the only place you can really shop is the Super Walmart.

Walmart is the commercial, American version of the devil.

 

[Willys46]

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We blame wall-mart for peoples shopping habits? Obviously they are providing things that customers want at a price they want to pay. I hate Wal-mart, it should be called Chinese junk!

But Wall mart has done pretty well with the economy slump. People do not have the extra cash and their money goes further there.

I have made a decision not to shop there, they have nothing i can not get from a local dealer. DO i pay more for items, yes, but that's my choice.

Heck look at wall mart in NYC, they claim they have a hunger problem in the city. Too many people going to bed hungry because they can not afford food. Like it or not Wall mart can get them food for a cheaper price than local retails, filling bellies at night.

As Americans, we have the choice to spend our money were we want, do you want the gov. telling you were you can spend your money and were you can not?

No wall mart fan, but capitalism I AM.

 

[rsee03]

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Not everything is cheaper at Walmart. They just have more items all-together in my opinion, but not everything. I agree that we lose many small business jobs when these type of superstores move in. Some good advantages & some not so good.

 

[chris112]

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There was a store in Aberdeen, SD that bought and sold (among other things) baseball cards. The owner told be about a former customer that hadn't bought anything since Walmart opened. Guy brought in a card that had a book value $300.00 that he wanted to sell. Owner told him to take it back to Walmart and see what they would give him for it.

If it is something that you would otherwise buy from Target or Sears you might as well buy it from Wally world. Otherwise if you want the other businesses to stay open they have to have enough business to keep the doors open.

 

[noahmercy]

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I think the question is, are the jobs that WalMart provides good ones? For the most part, the answer is no. Lots of part-time with few benefits. Outsourcing to China for most of their merchandise also hurts our manufacturing sector. Another negative impact is that once WM has driven the local mom 'n pops out of business, the folks living in those areas face reduced selections of goods.

Wally World is master of one thing...managing customers' expectations. No one really expects to find knowledgable, friendly, or helpful employees in the aisles. They've managed to convince most consumers that the cost of cheap goods is poor customer service.

 

[dx_caliber]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That was Walmart's plan for their competition from the beginning. They start with a small non-threatening store, get people used to going to it, then "BAM" a Superstore right near the local variety stores.

Next thing you know, the only place you can really shop is the Super Walmart.

Walmart is the commercial, American version of the devil. </div></div>

I refer to them as Satan's Dollar General. I don't shop their either, not even for ammo.

 

[Nostradumbass]

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Walmart is the definition of CANCER!!! If there is one company in the US that needs a Union....it's walmart! They have the most employees, and they're the lowest paid.

Personally I refer to walmart as "The Evil Empire!"

 

[coldboremiracle]

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This is why I always try and spend my money at the little shops. When I travel, I try and stop for lunch at the country restaurant with old cowboys in it drinking coffee. Or the hardware store with the owners name on the front. Walmart, Home Depot, and McDonalds will be fine without my little purchase, but the same purchase could make the difference for the little guy.

 

[ToddM]

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Blame shoppers. Everyone knows walmart is bad, they know if you buy meat there it's injected with nitrogen to make it look red, everyone knows that no matter what time of day you go there you will spend 20 minutes trying to checkout, and that most of their non-brand good are crap.

Yet you can go there at 4am and it's still busy and forget even trying to go there on a weekend. All people care about for the most part is it's cheap. It's the same reason all the US companies are shipping stuff overseas because consumers refuse to vote for anything but the cheapest option provided to them with their money. All you have to do as an industry in America is convince people that whatever you want them to do (right or wrong....usually wrong) saves them money and they will cave to whatever you tell them. Destroy the environment....cost lives in accidents that could and should have been prevented.....sure as long as it keeps gas prices lower. Ship our jobs overseas......sure we'll support that as long as product prices are cheap. Put up a walmart and push small family businesses under....sure if it saves 10% on our grocery bill.

The job thing is almost impossible to predict on a large scale, not only do you have the number of jobs created or lost but also the quality/pay/benefits of those jobs lost-vs-created.

The creation/loss of jobs is a black hole of statistics no one can ever quantify it's just used by the biggest $$$ player to support what they want.

When it's walmart it's that they can come into a town and create a huge number of jobs (albeit low paying crappy benefits ones) and the lost jobs don't matter, even though they are for "better" companies that probably pay more and have better benefits. When you talk about fossil fuels they use loss of jobs as a defense on why they shouldn't use safe practices and why alternative energy development is bad. It's just about who has the deeper pockets and what they tell the media to feed to the sheep.

 

[shoots100]

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I'm no big fan of Wal Mart and I don't shop there either,but are they any different than Home Depot,Loews or any big mall around ? They put alot of small buisnesses out of buisness too.
NY state in goin broke and Wal Mart will bring in Tax dollars.If you can't find it at Wall Mart,just walk around the corner and get what you need at Costco or Sams Club.
Money Talks.